Topic: lol Texas is finally learning.
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #26,045
After cutting 73$million from family planning, they now have a shit ton of unwanted children.
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Using taxpayer dollars to finance family-planning services has become politically thorny in Texas, largely because of Republican lawmakers’ assertions that the women’s health clinics providing that care are affiliated with abortion providers. In the fiscal crunch of 2011, the Legislature cut the state’s family-planning budget by two-thirds, with some lawmakers claiming that they were defunding the “abortion industry.†Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin, found that more than 50 family-planning clinics had closed statewide as a result.
Now, amid estimates that the cuts could lead to 24,000 additional 2014-15 births at a cost to taxpayers of $273 million, lawmakers are seeking a way to restore financing without ruffling feathers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/us/texas-may-restore-some-family-planning-budget-cuts.html?_r=0
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Using taxpayer dollars to finance family-planning services has become politically thorny in Texas, largely because of Republican lawmakers’ assertions that the women’s health clinics providing that care are affiliated with abortion providers. In the fiscal crunch of 2011, the Legislature cut the state’s family-planning budget by two-thirds, with some lawmakers claiming that they were defunding the “abortion industry.†Researchers at the University of Texas at Austin, found that more than 50 family-planning clinics had closed statewide as a result.
Now, amid estimates that the cuts could lead to 24,000 additional 2014-15 births at a cost to taxpayers of $273 million, lawmakers are seeking a way to restore financing without ruffling feathers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/01/us/texas-may-restore-some-family-planning-budget-cuts.html?_r=0
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later[^] [v] #394,297
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #394,299
The free market will step in and fix this because *magic* and *handwaving explanation*
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 39 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,304
@394,297 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
@previous (C)
lol I love it when the free market is acceptable for everything but birth control, or anything that Ron Paul wants to do.
@previous (C)
lol I love it when the free market is acceptable for everything but birth control, or anything that Ron Paul wants to do.
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,306
@previous (A)
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,307
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,308
Ruffle the god damn feathers and tell the religious nutjubs who think they can legislate morality to go fuck themselves. That's how I'd take care of it.
Anonymous D double-posted this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,313
@394,299 (C)
Ideally, yes, people should be able to pay for their own god damn birth control, their own god damn abortions, their own god damn health insurance, and their own god damn kids, without having to worry about government interfering, but since we live in a world of instant gratification full of consequence-free safety nets and poor dumb motherfuckers (who should be sterilized to prevent them from breeding) having as many kids as they want and expect the government to just take care of everything for them, I'm OK with spending 70 million to subsidize voluntary sterilization (birth control, abortions, condoms, sex education, etc) if it will save the state 200 million in the long run.
I really don't give two shits about how hateful or politically incorrect this is. I hate the fucking republicans for their religious, social-conservative bullshit and I hate liberals for their spending, their throw money at the problem attitudes, their lack of faith in the free market, and most of all their coddling of the weak, inferior, and downright stupid at the expense of the American taxpayer all so they can get votes from people who shouldn't be allowed to vote. If you can't pass a civics test, don't own property, or you're on welfare, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's a conflict of interest.
Let people starve to death. Let children starve to death. I don't give a flying fuck anymore. The government is spending almost $1000 per month per every man woman and child in this country and no one seems to give a fuck, especially not politicians who fight tooth and nail to stop every possible spending cut and essentially refuse to give up a dime. Fuck it all. I hope it all burns to the ground.
yes i mad
/rant
Ideally, yes, people should be able to pay for their own god damn birth control, their own god damn abortions, their own god damn health insurance, and their own god damn kids, without having to worry about government interfering, but since we live in a world of instant gratification full of consequence-free safety nets and poor dumb motherfuckers (who should be sterilized to prevent them from breeding) having as many kids as they want and expect the government to just take care of everything for them, I'm OK with spending 70 million to subsidize voluntary sterilization (birth control, abortions, condoms, sex education, etc) if it will save the state 200 million in the long run.
I really don't give two shits about how hateful or politically incorrect this is. I hate the fucking republicans for their religious, social-conservative bullshit and I hate liberals for their spending, their throw money at the problem attitudes, their lack of faith in the free market, and most of all their coddling of the weak, inferior, and downright stupid at the expense of the American taxpayer all so they can get votes from people who shouldn't be allowed to vote. If you can't pass a civics test, don't own property, or you're on welfare, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's a conflict of interest.
Let people starve to death. Let children starve to death. I don't give a flying fuck anymore. The government is spending almost $1000 per month per every man woman and child in this country and no one seems to give a fuck, especially not politicians who fight tooth and nail to stop every possible spending cut and essentially refuse to give up a dime. Fuck it all. I hope it all burns to the ground.
yes i mad
/rant
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,314
Sterilization and euthanization of the poor and retarded is the best way for this nation to improve.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,318
@394,313 (D)
There are so many countries that pay for full health insurance, and birth control. They aren't all hedonistic hell holes. By paying for birth control, they actually save money by not paying for the children. Which helps the population as a whole. Another benefit to not allowing people to starve to death, is that your country doesnt become a corpse filled wasteland, with hordes of begging children.
As for the welfare voting thing well that's tricky. Would you tell an injured war veteran that his voting rights are revoked for as long as they accepted medical, or financial aid?
There are so many countries that pay for full health insurance, and birth control. They aren't all hedonistic hell holes. By paying for birth control, they actually save money by not paying for the children. Which helps the population as a whole. Another benefit to not allowing people to starve to death, is that your country doesnt become a corpse filled wasteland, with hordes of begging children.
As for the welfare voting thing well that's tricky. Would you tell an injured war veteran that his voting rights are revoked for as long as they accepted medical, or financial aid?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 54 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #394,319
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,350
@394,314 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Immoral, but there's no denying that you're right. It would improve things. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Immoral, but there's no denying that you're right. It would improve things. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,351
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,352
> After cutting 73$million from family planning, they now have a shit ton of unwanted children.
Based on the article, they're all Hispanic kids too. The kind of thing you hate, OP.
Based on the article, they're all Hispanic kids too. The kind of thing you hate, OP.
Anonymous E replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,354
@394,318 (A)
Yeah because those other countries are reasonable. There's nothing reasonable about the USA level of spending and what they spend it on. The worst part is they actually debate if there is even a problem than they debate how much to cut. Cutting needs to be cut drastically, the only debate is how drastically. Obama calls a 3% cut catastrophic. It's a farce.
Yeah because those other countries are reasonable. There's nothing reasonable about the USA level of spending and what they spend it on. The worst part is they actually debate if there is even a problem than they debate how much to cut. Cutting needs to be cut drastically, the only debate is how drastically. Obama calls a 3% cut catastrophic. It's a farce.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,355
Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,357
@394,304 (A)
> lol I love it when the free market is acceptable for everything but birth control, or anything that Ron Paul wants to do.
What are you talking about? You can buy condoms in any grocery or drugstore and any woman who wants can get the pill, an IUD, or one of those hormone implants.
> lol I love it when the free market is acceptable for everything but birth control, or anything that Ron Paul wants to do.
What are you talking about? You can buy condoms in any grocery or drugstore and any woman who wants can get the pill, an IUD, or one of those hormone implants.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,362
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Um yeah, most insurance companies want to provide these things, but people are suing to stop them. The same people who claim to love small government and the free market. Also, birth control and pills are not over the counter, and are only available through prescription. So many people cannot get those things.
Um yeah, most insurance companies want to provide these things, but people are suing to stop them. The same people who claim to love small government and the free market. Also, birth control and pills are not over the counter, and are only available through prescription. So many people cannot get those things.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,371
@previous (A)
How much does a box of condoms cost? Or a generic of the pill? Condoms have been over the counter since like, forever and have a 90%+ effectiveness rate if used with care. I don't think the state should really need to fund birth control, since the free market is providing it in abundance to anyone who wants it. I don't see how this is inconsistent with small-government principles.
How much does a box of condoms cost? Or a generic of the pill? Condoms have been over the counter since like, forever and have a 90%+ effectiveness rate if used with care. I don't think the state should really need to fund birth control, since the free market is providing it in abundance to anyone who wants it. I don't see how this is inconsistent with small-government principles.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw double-posted this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,374
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/lifestyles-ultra-sensitive-premium-lubricated-latex-condoms/ID=prod6052654-product
$22.99 for 40 works out to $0.58 each. There's no way people can afford these without federal and state assistance.
http://www.tbtam.com/2007/09/walmart-offering-9-birth-control-pills.html#.UTKwcllQC0w
Walmart pharmacy sells Ortho Tricyclen generic, $8 for 90 day supply
There's no way people can afford these exorbitant free market prices.
$22.99 for 40 works out to $0.58 each. There's no way people can afford these without federal and state assistance.
http://www.tbtam.com/2007/09/walmart-offering-9-birth-control-pills.html#.UTKwcllQC0w
Walmart pharmacy sells Ortho Tricyclen generic, $8 for 90 day supply
There's no way people can afford these exorbitant free market prices.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,376
@394,371 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Need to fund, or should fund? They actually save money by providing contraception. Also, the state isnt funding anything when insurance companies provide birth control. These people are suing , and passing legislation to try and stop insurance companies from providing certain services. That isnt free market or small government.
Need to fund, or should fund? They actually save money by providing contraception. Also, the state isnt funding anything when insurance companies provide birth control. These people are suing , and passing legislation to try and stop insurance companies from providing certain services. That isnt free market or small government.
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 25 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,377
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 40 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,378
@394,374 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You cannot get birth control over the counter. thats not what generic means.
You cannot get birth control over the counter. thats not what generic means.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,379
@394,354 (E)
What makes them reasonable? Its seems reasonable to provide free health insurance, not spend sacks of money overseas, killing brown people.
What makes them reasonable? Its seems reasonable to provide free health insurance, not spend sacks of money overseas, killing brown people.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 41 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,380
@394,376 (A)
My point is, even an uninsured person with no state assistance would not have difficulty obtaining effective birth control if they so desired. Contraception is so cheap that even if it were totally free I don't think it would change things much. The real issue, I think, is sex ed and responsibility.
My point is, even an uninsured person with no state assistance would not have difficulty obtaining effective birth control if they so desired. Contraception is so cheap that even if it were totally free I don't think it would change things much. The real issue, I think, is sex ed and responsibility.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,382
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Yes they would, because of doctors visits. You cant get it without a prescription, and planned parenthoods (basically the only place for uninsured people to get contraception related doctors visits) are being shut down by the Republicans who call themselves small government. Planned Parenthoods want to provide services, and people are using the government to shut them down. Not free market, or small government.
Yes they would, because of doctors visits. You cant get it without a prescription, and planned parenthoods (basically the only place for uninsured people to get contraception related doctors visits) are being shut down by the Republicans who call themselves small government. Planned Parenthoods want to provide services, and people are using the government to shut them down. Not free market, or small government.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,385
@394,380 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Also even when people have insurance, certain companies are trying to say that they will not allow these insurance companies to provide services to their employees because of religious reasons. Which definitely isnt free market.
Also even when people have insurance, certain companies are trying to say that they will not allow these insurance companies to provide services to their employees because of religious reasons. Which definitely isnt free market.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 58 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,386
Did you actually think that anyone could just walk in a walmart, and buy birth control pills?
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 11 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,387
@394,382 (A)
Yes, but there are quite a few doctors (regular general practitioners) who would see you and prescribe it for $50-100 without insurance. Then go to Walmart and buy a 90 day supply for under $10. Or buy a box of condoms and some spermicide over the counter.
The problem is lack of sex ed and people thinking "herp derp feels better without a condom".
Yes, but there are quite a few doctors (regular general practitioners) who would see you and prescribe it for $50-100 without insurance. Then go to Walmart and buy a 90 day supply for under $10. Or buy a box of condoms and some spermicide over the counter.
The problem is lack of sex ed and people thinking "herp derp feels better without a condom".
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,392
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
What!? Show me these doctors. Most of the time you have to have a full gynecological exam before they will prescribe them (which is very expensive without insurance). Where do you get your info? Besides Planned Parenthoods, show us all of these places that provide $50 physical and gyno exams?
What!? Show me these doctors. Most of the time you have to have a full gynecological exam before they will prescribe them (which is very expensive without insurance). Where do you get your info? Besides Planned Parenthoods, show us all of these places that provide $50 physical and gyno exams?
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,394
@previous (A)
The last time I saw a doctor (about four years ago since I rarely get sick), his standard visit charge (without insurance) was $50. Even if its doubled since then, it would still be $100 or less.
The visit was for the flu and he gave me codeine cough syrup.
The last time I saw a doctor (about four years ago since I rarely get sick), his standard visit charge (without insurance) was $50. Even if its doubled since then, it would still be $100 or less.
The visit was for the flu and he gave me codeine cough syrup.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,396
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You didnt have a gyno, its not the same thing, and usually requires a family doctor. Also, for those types of pills, you generally need check ups, at least every three months.
You didnt have a gyno, its not the same thing, and usually requires a family doctor. Also, for those types of pills, you generally need check ups, at least every three months.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,400
Tell me, how is it small government when someone uses legislation to shut down abortion providers? People want these services, and people want to provide these services. How is this free market, or minimal government intervention?
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,407
@previous (A)
It's not. Government should let them be. Neither fund them nor obstruct them. I was talking about contraception and sex ed though.
It's not. Government should let them be. Neither fund them nor obstruct them. I was talking about contraception and sex ed though.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,408
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You were also talking about free market economy and small government. Did you already forget?
You were also talking about free market economy and small government. Did you already forget?
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,409
@previous (A)
Government not funding abortion, nor obstructing it, would be the free market, small-government government thing to do.
Government not funding abortion, nor obstructing it, would be the free market, small-government government thing to do.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,411
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Government is obstructing it, because they are using legislation to shut down Planned Parenthoods. Which are basically the only providers of womens healthcare to uninsured people. This is being done by Republicans, who claim to love small government and the free market. Dispute this fact if you can.
Government is obstructing it, because they are using legislation to shut down Planned Parenthoods. Which are basically the only providers of womens healthcare to uninsured people. This is being done by Republicans, who claim to love small government and the free market. Dispute this fact if you can.
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 59 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,412
To reiterate: the way Texas is handling abortion is not the free market way because Texas is full of Jesus tards. But contraceptives are available at low cost to anyone who wants them, and with Google anyone with the internet can learn safe sex practices. It's ultimately up to the individual to practice safe sex or not.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,413
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Nope, because Texas has been shutting down their Planned parenthoods, which is the only way that woman can get uninsured birth control.
Nope, because Texas has been shutting down their Planned parenthoods, which is the only way that woman can get uninsured birth control.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,416
@previous (A)
Even if an uninsured woman saved up a few hundred dollars, there's no way outside of Planned Parenthood that she could obtain birth control?
Even if an uninsured woman saved up a few hundred dollars, there's no way outside of Planned Parenthood that she could obtain birth control?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,417
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Wait, why are you even asking this? We've already established that shutting down poor peoples clinics is against the free market and small government. Where else can you go from here?
Wait, why are you even asking this? We've already established that shutting down poor peoples clinics is against the free market and small government. Where else can you go from here?
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,421
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,426
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
What is your point? Texas wants to stop its unwanted child problem, and is doing so. In the past when it cut funds to these healthcare services, it actually costed them more money because then they had a sharp increase in unwanted children.
What is your point? Texas wants to stop its unwanted child problem, and is doing so. In the past when it cut funds to these healthcare services, it actually costed them more money because then they had a sharp increase in unwanted children.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,449
24,000 people born? What a tragedy. Is there any way we can still kill them?
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 26 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,450
Anonymous H triple-posted this 13 years ago, 29 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,451
Anonymous H quadruple-posted this 13 years ago, 57 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,452
Anonymous H quintuple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,453
@394,313 (D)
> I'm OK with spending 70 million to subsidize voluntary sterilization
Then go spend that money. Just don't ask people who aren't okay with it to fund it.
> I'm OK with spending 70 million to subsidize voluntary sterilization
Then go spend that money. Just don't ask people who aren't okay with it to fund it.
Anonymous H sextuple-posted this 13 years ago, 23 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,454
@394,314 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
> Sterilization and euthanization of the poor and retarded is the best way for this nation to improve.
You'd be first, fat autist scum.
> Sterilization and euthanization of the poor and retarded is the best way for this nation to improve.
You'd be first, fat autist scum.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 32 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,455
@394,452 (H)
You are legislating morality when you force anyone to fund anything, or to follow any laws at all.
You are legislating morality when you force anyone to fund anything, or to follow any laws at all.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 25 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,456
Also, hey Mountainman! What time is it there?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,457
@394,362 (A)
> Um yeah, most insurance companies want to provide these things, but people are suing to stop them. The same people who claim to love small government and the free market. Also, birth control and pills are not over the counter, and are only available through prescription. So many people cannot get those things.
lol this is not happening. maybe actually read stuff instead of repeating sandra fluke lol
> Um yeah, most insurance companies want to provide these things, but people are suing to stop them. The same people who claim to love small government and the free market. Also, birth control and pills are not over the counter, and are only available through prescription. So many people cannot get those things.
lol this is not happening. maybe actually read stuff instead of repeating sandra fluke lol
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,458
Anonymous H triple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,459
Anonymous H quadruple-posted this 13 years ago, 44 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,460
Anonymous H quintuple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,462
@394,400 (A)
Tell me, how is it small government when someone uses legislation to shut down assassination providers? People want these services, and people want to provide these services. How is this free market, or minimal government intervention?
Tell me, how is it small government when someone uses legislation to shut down assassination providers? People want these services, and people want to provide these services. How is this free market, or minimal government intervention?
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 30 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,463
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 46 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,464
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,466
@394,463 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
typical fat, autistic behaviour, repeating a word over and over
typical fat, autistic behaviour, repeating a word over and over
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,469
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,473
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,475
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 55 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,477
@394,469 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
> doing it again to prove me wrong
wow you really are touched
> doing it again to prove me wrong
wow you really are touched
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,479
@394,457 (H)
So insurance companies do not want to provide birth control, because birth control is cheaper than children? Source?
So insurance companies do not want to provide birth control, because birth control is cheaper than children? Source?
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 2 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,480
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,482
@394,462 (H)
What if assassination providers mostly had programs that prevent assassinations? Like with Planned Parenthood where the majority of the funds go to contraception?
What if assassination providers mostly had programs that prevent assassinations? Like with Planned Parenthood where the majority of the funds go to contraception?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,488
@394,479 (A)
wtf?
@394,480 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
> i did it again lel
@previous (A)
> not killing someone = preventing a killing
dam lol i guess i prevented approx. 500 killings today, because I didn't kill everyone I saw.
> if a murderer doesn't kill everyone they see they are actually good people who should be rewarded, not jailed
full retard
wtf?
@394,480 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
> i did it again lel
@previous (A)
> not killing someone = preventing a killing
dam lol i guess i prevented approx. 500 killings today, because I didn't kill everyone I saw.
> if a murderer doesn't kill everyone they see they are actually good people who should be rewarded, not jailed
full retard
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,491
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,493
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,495
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,497
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 55 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,498
tell us MM, now that we know that praying wont prevent unwanted children, how should Texas fix this dilemma?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,499
@394,495 (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Neither do I, finally something in common.
@394,497 (A)
I prevent killings by not killing people, too. Where's my money?
Neither do I, finally something in common.
@394,497 (A)
I prevent killings by not killing people, too. Where's my money?
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 5 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,500
@394,498 (A)
They aren't praying correctly. They have to insert the prayer beads inside little girls' anuses for it to work.
They aren't praying correctly. They have to insert the prayer beads inside little girls' anuses for it to work.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,501
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,503
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 44 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,505
@394,501 (H)
Actually its funny, because Texas has a horrible infant mortality rate. So they are killing children, but only after they are born.
Actually its funny, because Texas has a horrible infant mortality rate. So they are killing children, but only after they are born.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,506
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 13 years ago, 42 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,507
tell us how they can fix this major problem, MM.
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 9 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,508
@394,506 (A)
Oh, right. You need a topical cream that has been blessed by a priest to lubricate the anuses prior to insertion.
Oh, right. You need a topical cream that has been blessed by a priest to lubricate the anuses prior to insertion.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,511
@394,503 (A)
don't blame the children for the selfishness of their parents would be a good place to start.
don't blame the children for the selfishness of their parents would be a good place to start.
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 29 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,513
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 21 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,515
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 26 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,517
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 48 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,519
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 14 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,521
WE MUST CAST OUT THE STATIST DEMONS AND EXORCISE THE LIBERAL CHILDREN
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 37 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,523
@394,515 (A)
The infant mortality rate doesn't come from abortions, but from subpar health care, and abstinence programs. Abortions are in included in these numbers,and Texas was like number two in dead children.
The infant mortality rate doesn't come from abortions, but from subpar health care, and abstinence programs. Abortions are in included in these numbers,and Texas was like number two in dead children.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 15 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,524
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,527
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,529
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,530
@394,523 (A)
> infant mortality comes from abstinence programs
you are literally insane. you believe in magic. abstinence programs do not kill babies. that is a fucked up thing to say
> infant mortality comes from abstinence programs
you are literally insane. you believe in magic. abstinence programs do not kill babies. that is a fucked up thing to say
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 34 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,531
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,532
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,539
@394,530 (H)
they cause unwanted children to be born. States that teach abstinence programs intead of safe sex, actually have more teen pregnancies. Like Texas, and Mississippi.
they cause unwanted children to be born. States that teach abstinence programs intead of safe sex, actually have more teen pregnancies. Like Texas, and Mississippi.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 34 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,541
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,545
@394,539 (A)
> they cause unwanted children to be born.
holy fuck do you even think about what you post
that was just dumb
omg srsly
> they cause unwanted children to be born.
holy fuck do you even think about what you post
that was just dumb
omg srsly
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 25 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,546
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,551
@394,545 (H)
They do. They shame the children about sex, and teach them that condoms dont work. So when the children still give in to temptation, they dont use condoms. Thats why Texas and Mississippi both have very high teen pregnancy rates,and very bad infant mortality rates. Its the the truth.
They do. They shame the children about sex, and teach them that condoms dont work. So when the children still give in to temptation, they dont use condoms. Thats why Texas and Mississippi both have very high teen pregnancy rates,and very bad infant mortality rates. Its the the truth.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 47 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,553
@394,546 (H)
Give me a practical example. Right now, Texas has a lot of unwanted children, lets stop blaming the victims. Then what happens?
Give me a practical example. Right now, Texas has a lot of unwanted children, lets stop blaming the victims. Then what happens?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,554
@394,551 (A)
> They do.
No, hairylegs, they don't. Having sex when you don't want children causes unwanted children. Not killing them allows them to be born.
> They do.
No, hairylegs, they don't. Having sex when you don't want children causes unwanted children. Not killing them allows them to be born.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 40 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,555
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 30 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,556
@394,553 (A)
Give me a practical example. Right now, Texas has a lot of rape, lets stop blaming the victims. Then what happens?
Give me a practical example. Right now, Texas has a lot of rape, lets stop blaming the victims. Then what happens?
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 38 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,557
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,560
@394,556 (H)
You have no new material, and cannot back up any of your claims. Texas has an actual problem right now, and is looking for solutions. What they are doing now isnt working. So in what ways can we end this victim blaming? How can we educate people in a way that they would understand?
You have no new material, and cannot back up any of your claims. Texas has an actual problem right now, and is looking for solutions. What they are doing now isnt working. So in what ways can we end this victim blaming? How can we educate people in a way that they would understand?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,562
@394,557 (H)
Negative birth control is what caused the increase in unwanted pregnancies, because this happened right after a giant budget for family planning services. The pregnancies got scarily high, and now they're bringing the family planning back. Its not hard concept.
Negative birth control is what caused the increase in unwanted pregnancies, because this happened right after a giant budget for family planning services. The pregnancies got scarily high, and now they're bringing the family planning back. Its not hard concept.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,572
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 6 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,604
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,605
@394,562 (A)
> Negative birth control is what caused the increase in unwanted pregnancies
it must be hard getting through life without being able to understand even basic concepts
> Negative birth control is what caused the increase in unwanted pregnancies
it must be hard getting through life without being able to understand even basic concepts
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,637
@previous (H)
lol whatever you say. We have proof of what happened when they cut family planning. Delusions are a hell of a drug.
lol whatever you say. We have proof of what happened when they cut family planning. Delusions are a hell of a drug.
!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 26 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,639
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 39 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,641
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,655
cunts
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #394,657
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,716
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,717
@394,639 (!KThEOwLwbU)
In a culture of life perhaps such children would be wanted. In our culture of death we have concepts such as "unwanted children"
In a culture of life perhaps such children would be wanted. In our culture of death we have concepts such as "unwanted children"
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,719
@394,716 (H)
Yes having sex does cause children, good job. In Texas, when they cut the budget for family planning, they suddenly had a lot more children. Were people having more sex for some reason, or using less contraception? Well Texas realized that they cannot support the amount of child re being born, so now they are bringing back family planning. This is the most simple way that can explain it to you. Do you understand?
Yes having sex does cause children, good job. In Texas, when they cut the budget for family planning, they suddenly had a lot more children. Were people having more sex for some reason, or using less contraception? Well Texas realized that they cannot support the amount of child re being born, so now they are bringing back family planning. This is the most simple way that can explain it to you. Do you understand?
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,720
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,721
When someone manages to be less progressive than Texas, well I truly pity you. lol
Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,736
@394,716 (H)Are you saying that Jesus was not born to a virgin mother? Are you not Catholic? Are you an Atheist scum?
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,825
@previous (Valdair Cartman !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
I am, of course, talking about natural processes. Not included in this are special non-recurring miracles, the inclusion of which would render any authoritative pronouncement on any subject invalid.
I am, of course, talking about natural processes. Not included in this are special non-recurring miracles, the inclusion of which would render any authoritative pronouncement on any subject invalid.
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,826
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,848
@394,717 (H)
How will Texas raise the money needed to support these children if the parents do not have enough income to support them?
How will Texas raise the money needed to support these children if the parents do not have enough income to support them?
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,851
mountainlol
squeegee joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,860
Why are y'all so worried about how we do in texas? Worry about your yankee selves.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,863
Mountainman's opposition to more accessible contraception makes perfect sense when you remember that less use of contraception results in more children.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,866
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,867
@394,863 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
lol I like how he's just repeating himself. I broke his brain.
lol I like how he's just repeating himself. I broke his brain.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,868
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #394,998
@394,848 (!KThEOwLwbU)
Other people may need to help if there are people incapable of raising their own children.
Other people may need to help if there are people incapable of raising their own children.
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,001
@394,866 (A)
> blaming the victim
You're sick. I suppose your solution to rape is to have less women.
> blaming the victim
You're sick. I suppose your solution to rape is to have less women.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,007
@previous (H)
lol You're so cute. Right now in Texas, they have a lot of children that they cannot afford. Should people use more birth control, in order to help this situation? Yes or no?
lol You're so cute. Right now in Texas, they have a lot of children that they cannot afford. Should people use more birth control, in order to help this situation? Yes or no?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,018
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,020
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What kills me is that Catholics go to poor as shit countries, and try and convince them not to use condoms.
What kills me is that Catholics go to poor as shit countries, and try and convince them not to use condoms.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,023
@previous (A)
It's horrible. The people of the developing world should only get help from genuine, humanitarian workers that judt have their welfare at heart, not missionaries who have a ridiculously overt agenda for being there.
It's horrible. The people of the developing world should only get help from genuine, humanitarian workers that judt have their welfare at heart, not missionaries who have a ridiculously overt agenda for being there.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,026
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You know that Christian (but not Catholic) American missionaries have gone to Africa, and whipped up so much hate against gays, so that now it is a death sentence warranted offense, and the names and pictures of suspected gays are printed in local newspapers.
You know that Christian (but not Catholic) American missionaries have gone to Africa, and whipped up so much hate against gays, so that now it is a death sentence warranted offense, and the names and pictures of suspected gays are printed in local newspapers.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,030
@previous (A)
Yeah, it's nothing but exploitation. They can try to dress it up as humanitarian work all they want, but help should not come at the cost of having irrational delusions hoisted on you.
Yeah, it's nothing but exploitation. They can try to dress it up as humanitarian work all they want, but help should not come at the cost of having irrational delusions hoisted on you.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #395,031
@395,026 (A)
Also, I'm surprised that mountainman hadn't showed up yet to try and defend missionaries, lol.
Also, I'm surprised that mountainman hadn't showed up yet to try and defend missionaries, lol.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,034
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,035
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,037
@previous (A)
I'm sure he'll be back. I've never seen the guy back down from an argument before. At all.
I'm sure he'll be back. I've never seen the guy back down from an argument before. At all.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 38 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,050
@395,007 (A)
Yes, they should PRACTICE birth control. i.e. don't have sex with people you're not married to
Yes, they should PRACTICE birth control. i.e. don't have sex with people you're not married to
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,051
Anonymous H triple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,052
squeegee replied with this 13 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,054
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,056
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,059
@395,050 (H)
Actually they've been trying this for a very long time in Texas, by using abstinence only sex education. What happened? A shit ton of children! This approach isnt working!
Actually they've been trying this for a very long time in Texas, by using abstinence only sex education. What happened? A shit ton of children! This approach isnt working!
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,060
@395,052 (H)
Well, we know that the physical actually exists, so yes, we should focus on that instead of the spiritual.
Well, we know that the physical actually exists, so yes, we should focus on that instead of the spiritual.
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Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 56 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,061
Whats MM's approach to fixing a problem? Doing things in exactly the same manner, and hoping for a change.
Anonymous B replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,062
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,063
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,064
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,068
@395,052 (H)
How does doing things like introducing them to homophobia and telling them to not use birth control help them? The giving of aid should be selfless and done for its own sake, these people have a pretty obvious ulterior motive with their missionary work.
@395,051 (H)
I mostly wanted to make a reference, but at least she's still using real arguments and not just repeating the same phrase over and over.
@previous (A)
I guess so. Obviosuly all of the stories about the Catholic church has got him worried that there's none left for him.
How does doing things like introducing them to homophobia and telling them to not use birth control help them? The giving of aid should be selfless and done for its own sake, these people have a pretty obvious ulterior motive with their missionary work.
@395,051 (H)
I mostly wanted to make a reference, but at least she's still using real arguments and not just repeating the same phrase over and over.
@previous (A)
I guess so. Obviosuly all of the stories about the Catholic church has got him worried that there's none left for him.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,078
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I really do think that its one of the reasons why he considers the Catholic church to be true. Because they go to extravagant lengths to protect their pedophiles.
I really do think that its one of the reasons why he considers the Catholic church to be true. Because they go to extravagant lengths to protect their pedophiles.
!KThEOwLwbU replied with this 13 years ago, 20 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,356
@394,998 (H)
And how will other people help? Taxes?
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And how will other people help? Taxes?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,358
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 34 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,377
@previous (A)
I'm sure a few hours of praying to Ron Paul will fix him. Expect him back and moving the goalposts in a few hours.
I'm sure a few hours of praying to Ron Paul will fix him. Expect him back and moving the goalposts in a few hours.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,385
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 18 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,386
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 13 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,580
Anonymous H double-posted this 13 years ago, 42 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,581
Anonymous H triple-posted this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,582
@395,068 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> How does doing things like introducing them to homophobia and telling them to not use birth control help them?
Because both are mortal sins. To avoid them is of inestimable aid.
> The giving of aid should be selfless and done for its own sake,
Why? I would actually be interested in a defence of this statement.
> these people have a pretty obvious ulterior motive with their missionary work.
Because it's totally in their interests to convert poor people? Money goes in, it doesn't come out. There's no incentive apart from they actually care and want to help.
> I mostly wanted to make a reference, but at least she's still using real arguments and not just repeating the same phrase over and over.
> real arguments
> telling kids not to have sex actually causes children to be formed
> How does doing things like introducing them to homophobia and telling them to not use birth control help them?
Because both are mortal sins. To avoid them is of inestimable aid.
> The giving of aid should be selfless and done for its own sake,
Why? I would actually be interested in a defence of this statement.
> these people have a pretty obvious ulterior motive with their missionary work.
Because it's totally in their interests to convert poor people? Money goes in, it doesn't come out. There's no incentive apart from they actually care and want to help.
> I mostly wanted to make a reference, but at least she's still using real arguments and not just repeating the same phrase over and over.
> real arguments
> telling kids not to have sex actually causes children to be formed
retard patrol replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,600
@395,581 (H)> We know that the spiritual exists, too, so, yeah.
You are, literally, retarded, so, yeah.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 43 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,606
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,607
@395,582 (H)
Tell us about how Texas can help there problem. You've been repeating yourself constantly. Regarding contraception in poor countries: we know that they have more babies than they can afford (on Texas as well) so why should we worry about mortal sins when we know that these children actually exist? Also, why pretend that you actually care about mortal sins, when you have never given a fuck abut molesty priests?
So in your opinion, even though using condoms helps prevent very poor people from falling further into poverty, and even though American evangelicals help introduced the death penalty for gays in Africa, that's okay because the alternative is sinning? Isnt murder a sin?
Tell us about how Texas can help there problem. You've been repeating yourself constantly. Regarding contraception in poor countries: we know that they have more babies than they can afford (on Texas as well) so why should we worry about mortal sins when we know that these children actually exist? Also, why pretend that you actually care about mortal sins, when you have never given a fuck abut molesty priests?
So in your opinion, even though using condoms helps prevent very poor people from falling further into poverty, and even though American evangelicals help introduced the death penalty for gays in Africa, that's okay because the alternative is sinning? Isnt murder a sin?
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,609
@395,580 (H)
They use abstinence only programs, and are a very religious state, but they still fuck. How can we stop them? inb4 stop victim blaming.
They use abstinence only programs, and are a very religious state, but they still fuck. How can we stop them? inb4 stop victim blaming.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 13 years ago, 37 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,610
@395,600 (retard patrol)
I like how he looks worse every time that he replies to this thread, but it doesn't stop him from trying.
I like how he looks worse every time that he replies to this thread, but it doesn't stop him from trying.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,616
MM why havent you called Texas, and let them know that you've solved their poor people having kids issue? Once they know about victim blaming, they might give you a medal.
Anonymous A (OP) sextuple-posted this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,618
MM, arent you against giving state funded welfare to poor children? MM do you believe that all contraception is a form of murder?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,646
@395,582 (H)
> Because both are mortal sins. To avoid them is of inestimable aid.
But this thread has shown the benefits of birth control several times, and there's strong evidence of homosexuality having a biological basis, so people can't help being homosexual.
Also, religion is load of crap anyway so your argument is invalid.
> Why? I would actually be interested in a defence of this statement.
Here we see mountainman arguing that charity should not be selfless and that charity workers with self-serving motives are okay.
> Because it's totally in their interests to convert poor people? Money goes in, it doesn't come out. There's no incentive apart from they actually care and want to help.
And here we see him arguing that missionaries aren't at all motivated by wanting to spread their religion. I also like how your view on a missionary's motivation is the same as my definition of an ideal charity worker, which you just criticised.
> Because both are mortal sins. To avoid them is of inestimable aid.
But this thread has shown the benefits of birth control several times, and there's strong evidence of homosexuality having a biological basis, so people can't help being homosexual.
Also, religion is load of crap anyway so your argument is invalid.
> Why? I would actually be interested in a defence of this statement.
Here we see mountainman arguing that charity should not be selfless and that charity workers with self-serving motives are okay.
> Because it's totally in their interests to convert poor people? Money goes in, it doesn't come out. There's no incentive apart from they actually care and want to help.
And here we see him arguing that missionaries aren't at all motivated by wanting to spread their religion. I also like how your view on a missionary's motivation is the same as my definition of an ideal charity worker, which you just criticised.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 7 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,803
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Documentary about Christian missionaries bringing the death penalty for gays in Uganda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTxYftlrX4 about 45 minutes
Also short clip about the eat the poo poo guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
Documentary about Christian missionaries bringing the death penalty for gays in Uganda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USTxYftlrX4 about 45 minutes
Also short clip about the eat the poo poo guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #395,809
Texas sucks. Thanks.