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Topic: How do you think the universe began?

green started this discussion 13 years ago #25,883

I know the big bang and god are the most widely accepted theories. But what do you think? I like the multiverse theory. Our universe could be the result of other universes colliding.
Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
Big bang. 6 86%
god did it. - 0%
Other. 1 14%

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #392,641

I invented it one day when i was bored.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #392,643

I think that the Big Bang theory is rejected by most physicists these days, and that another theory has replaced it. Don't recall what it was, though.

@previous (B)
Sup Syntax?

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Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #392,645

@392,641 (B)
Was this around the time you were advising Steven Hawking on cosmology?

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #392,646

@392,643 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I think that the Big Bang theory is rejected by most physicists these days
Huh?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #392,647

@previous (E)
I'll look into it properly when I get home, but a while I saw a documentary my dad was watching where they were talking abbot how the big bang theory had fallen out of favour.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #392,663

god and saten was arm wrestling, and they were evenly matched, and god pushed out this eldritch fart to distract saten, saten caught whiff of it and near bout died he was gagging so hard and god used this opportunity to beat him. the fart cloud turned into our universe and saten has been buttmad over gods cheating ever since, but like it was only a couple minutes for them so we can't call him autistic.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #392,665

@392,647 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Okay a quick Wikipedia search seems to indicate that inflationary theory is commonly seen as an answer to the Big Bang's problems, but has problems of its own. That's what the documentary was referring to.

Also I like how nobody has voted yet.

Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #392,673

The problem with all of these theories is that they suggest that prior to starting the universe there was nothing: For, if there was something, no matter how small or large or insignificant, then things had already started. It beggars the question, what started the basis of what started the Universe.

Of chickens and eggs.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 13 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #392,674

@previous (Icarus !!fxtF/31b/)
Yes but positing an infinitely old universe is at least equally problematic. Saying that time "started" at the moment of the big bang is slightly less conceptually difficult, but then you'll always wonder what exactly it means when you say time "started" because you're using time to describe how time came to be. Of course, describing things without reference to time is pretty tricky as well. Just try to tell any kind of story about a thing without reference of any sort to temporal events and you'll know what I mean. When it comes to describing the beginning of the universe, I think our commonsense notions about what is or isn't plausible, while pretty useful for ordinary things, need to take a backseat and let the data speak for itself.

Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #392,675

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
And, am I any less confused lolol, no. Merely attempting to think of a never ending Universe, let alone how it started, is beyond my imagination let alone, understanding.

Real Smarty joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,039

That God stuff is so dumb. Everyone knows that the Universe and all it's complexity just all of a sudden poofed into existence for some unknown reason. All the neat stuff like gravity and thousands of species being involved in a self supporting food chain and oxygen and plants which heal illness just happened randomly, oh yeah.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,043

@previous (Real Smarty)
Where did God come from?

Real Smarty replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,051

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You are not ready for such complex inquiry yet. When you can tell us the cure for cancer then we shall discuss where God coame from.

Anonymous E replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,052

@392,665 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Oh hey, thanks for looking into that.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,062

This is a very interesting thread OP! Finally some quality discussion on this site! I have heard a theory that matter in our universe came from black hole in another. Seems plausible!

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,065

@previous (A)
You might be interested in this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Smolin

!KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #393,066

@392,673 (Icarus !!fxtF/31b/)

> The problem with all of these theories is that they suggest that prior to starting the universe there was nothing: For, if there was something, no matter how small or large or insignificant, then things had already started. It beggars the question, what started the basis of what started the Universe.
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> Of chickens and eggs.

Okay first of all you're pretentious, second of all it's "begs the question", third of all you used the phrase "begs the question" and then actually asked the question and fourth of all there was no "prior to the starting" because time did not exist.
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