Topic: Should it be legal to blend fish?
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ started this discussion 13 years ago #24,964
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes, blend the fish | 8 | 62% | |
| No, don't blend the fish | 5 | 38% |
Ashe joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #383,129
Depends if they are legally animals, with or without clothes.
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,131
Well it's legal to boil animals alive if you're gonna eat them, so I don't see why not.
That being said, I don't eat lobster and anyone who thinks blending fish is a good time is fucked up.
That being said, I don't eat lobster and anyone who thinks blending fish is a good time is fucked up.
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,132
Ashe replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,133
@383,131 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
you can knock them out by freezing them for like 20-30 minutes before cooking them, or jam a knife behind the eyes to take them out instantly if you don't mind the flopping around they do afterwards
you can knock them out by freezing them for like 20-30 minutes before cooking them, or jam a knife behind the eyes to take them out instantly if you don't mind the flopping around they do afterwards
Green joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,136
How the hell is that considered art?
Ashe replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,137
@previous (Green)
Imagine you are there, there is a blender and a button in front of you. Sign: "Push button to kill fish". What will you think? What will you feel?
Imagine you are there, there is a blender and a button in front of you. Sign: "Push button to kill fish". What will you think? What will you feel?
Green replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,138
Icarus !!fxtF/31b/ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,139
@383,133 (Ashe)
The artist's statement seems to be complete nonsense. Precisely the same argument could have been made if children had been substituted for goldfish.... and the Judge and expert witness's also seem to have a warped sense of right and wrong. Their opinion and judgement could also be said to apply to child substitutes. ie because death was instant and no pain was involved therefore there was no cruelty.
The artist's statement seems to be complete nonsense. Precisely the same argument could have been made if children had been substituted for goldfish.... and the Judge and expert witness's also seem to have a warped sense of right and wrong. Their opinion and judgement could also be said to apply to child substitutes. ie because death was instant and no pain was involved therefore there was no cruelty.
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,144
Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 27 seconds later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,145
It's funny how people completely miss the point of the art installation.
Somewhere out of all the people who visit that museum, there's going to a cruel person out there (or a morbidly curious one) and that's what he's trying to prove.
Somewhere out of all the people who visit that museum, there's going to a cruel person out there (or a morbidly curious one) and that's what he's trying to prove.
★henn★ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 31 seconds later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,146
@383,131 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
@383,132 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
The fish aren't being eaten though. They are being outright killed for no purpose other than art.
@383,132 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
The fish aren't being eaten though. They are being outright killed for no purpose other than art.
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 14 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,147
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 53 seconds later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,149
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #383,150
lol.
You could probably shit in a bucket and have it put in an art place these days.
You could probably shit in a bucket and have it put in an art place these days.
★henn★ replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #383,152
@383,149 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
Sure, but there should be some boundaries. As far as sport goes, when hunting, the kill is normally used for food. When fishing, if you do not plan on eating the fish, you return them to wherever you were fishing at. I get the artists goal in this scenario and it's really not that serious but I think a fine is proper punishment. Poor fish
Sure, but there should be some boundaries. As far as sport goes, when hunting, the kill is normally used for food. When fishing, if you do not plan on eating the fish, you return them to wherever you were fishing at. I get the artists goal in this scenario and it's really not that serious but I think a fine is proper punishment. Poor fish
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,236
The proper thing to do wood be to build a huge blender and insert Chilean-born Danish artist Marco Evaristti, and Peter Meyer, director of the Trapholt Art Museum, feet first and put blender on S L O W
Speed until fully blended and see how much they enjoy my idea of creation of my art work plan. It may not be legal but it wood be the Morally correct thing to do.
Speed until fully blended and see how much they enjoy my idea of creation of my art work plan. It may not be legal but it wood be the Morally correct thing to do.
duck dodger joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,269
they should have just removed the blenders
unplugging them takes away all of the value
unplugging them takes away all of the value
Green replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,278
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 30 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,282
@383,131 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Eating to sustain life! Any good fish cookbook shows how to use a knife on the Lobster before tossing the Lobster in a pot. Same theory as taking cattle to the slaughter - One does not want to kill a frightened animal or at least that is what I have read. (may or may not be true and I wood hope it is true) I poke the Lobster where they show me in the book b4 the Boil.
http://homecooking.about.com/od/seafood/a/lobsterkill.htm
From a scientific standpoint, the muscles toughen with the shock of hitting the boiling water, which means more chewing for the diner. If you go for the plunge method, put the lobster in head-first which should kill it pretty much instantly.
Some cooks are concerned about humanity issues of cooking a live lobster. In fact, research indicates the lobster has no central nervous system or cerebral cortex to register stimuli, thus the creature mostly likely can feel no pain. However, killing the lobster just before cooking is the preferred method.
There are several ways to accomplish this. Putting the lobster in the freezer an hour before cooking will do the trick. Quicker yet is to plunge the tip of a sharp knife straight down right behind the lobster's eyes.
For those who do not wish to wrestle with a thrashing lobster prior to cutting the spinal cord, place the lobster in a large pot in the sink. Begin filling with cold tap water and gradually increase the heat factor of the tap water until it is hot. This will desensitize the creature so you can cut the cord and put it into the pot or cut it in half for further cooking.
Eating to sustain life! Any good fish cookbook shows how to use a knife on the Lobster before tossing the Lobster in a pot. Same theory as taking cattle to the slaughter - One does not want to kill a frightened animal or at least that is what I have read. (may or may not be true and I wood hope it is true) I poke the Lobster where they show me in the book b4 the Boil.
http://homecooking.about.com/od/seafood/a/lobsterkill.htm
From a scientific standpoint, the muscles toughen with the shock of hitting the boiling water, which means more chewing for the diner. If you go for the plunge method, put the lobster in head-first which should kill it pretty much instantly.
Some cooks are concerned about humanity issues of cooking a live lobster. In fact, research indicates the lobster has no central nervous system or cerebral cortex to register stimuli, thus the creature mostly likely can feel no pain. However, killing the lobster just before cooking is the preferred method.
There are several ways to accomplish this. Putting the lobster in the freezer an hour before cooking will do the trick. Quicker yet is to plunge the tip of a sharp knife straight down right behind the lobster's eyes.
For those who do not wish to wrestle with a thrashing lobster prior to cutting the spinal cord, place the lobster in a large pot in the sink. Begin filling with cold tap water and gradually increase the heat factor of the tap water until it is hot. This will desensitize the creature so you can cut the cord and put it into the pot or cut it in half for further cooking.
TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 11 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,476
If it died instantly and painlessly, what's the problem.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,479
@previous (TTEH !JXsxEkDBLs)
Killing just for the sake of killing a live anything is not good Karma.
Killing ants that want to bite me is justifiable ...Killing them for the sake of killing them is not good for nature or your long term Karma.
Killing just for the sake of killing a live anything is not good Karma.
Killing ants that want to bite me is justifiable ...Killing them for the sake of killing them is not good for nature or your long term Karma.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,484
Ashe replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,487
@383,278 (Green)
But the point is that it makes the viewer choose between life and death. If it's unplugged then the choice has already been made for you. It takes the responsibility for the action away from the viewer and divests it in some higher power.
But the point is that it makes the viewer choose between life and death. If it's unplugged then the choice has already been made for you. It takes the responsibility for the action away from the viewer and divests it in some higher power.
Anonymous H replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,488
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,490
@previous (H)Modern art can be a circlejerk. Too many white canvases and they call that art. One Yes any more No No.
Picasso famous:
Is actually ancient art! (Native American ancient art)
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 13 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,499
I prefer consuming my meals when they're still alive (both plants and animals). I don't really have a problem with this, I just think its silly.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #383,503
@previous (L)
> I prefer consuming my meals when they're still alive (both plants and animals)
wot animal alive? I do eat live raw Oysters n Clams and they MUST BE ALIVE Before consumption or I could die a super fast n horrid death.
> I prefer consuming my meals when they're still alive (both plants and animals)
wot animal alive? I do eat live raw Oysters n Clams and they MUST BE ALIVE Before consumption or I could die a super fast n horrid death.
Anonymous L replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #383,539
@previous (Syntax)
Oytsters, octopus, shrimp, squid, fish, etc. No mammals for obvious reasons. Steak tartar is as close as it gets there.
Oytsters, octopus, shrimp, squid, fish, etc. No mammals for obvious reasons. Steak tartar is as close as it gets there.
Anonymous I replied with this 13 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #383,540
@previous (L)
Raw squid? Never tried it raw in a Sushi bar. Shrimp Yes and I think those are fresh water and they Fry up the head and one tries not to cut tongue on them feelers. Octopus Raw??? Chewy nuff cooked.
Of course Fish as Sashimi and Sushi and only once I tried raw Mussels placed before me by a trusted Sushi chef. Hummmmmmmm just checked the tide charts and for me to pull some Mussels off the rock wood mean going out after Sunset. Love my 10 mile runs that include the Green Flash which I saw as Green rather then the blue of the past few days. So probably no Mussels to go with my Homemade Green Chile Stew
Ooooooops Satellite ALARM and dis one is always a Byyyyyyyyyytch to fix
OUT OF HERE
Raw squid? Never tried it raw in a Sushi bar. Shrimp Yes and I think those are fresh water and they Fry up the head and one tries not to cut tongue on them feelers. Octopus Raw??? Chewy nuff cooked.
Of course Fish as Sashimi and Sushi and only once I tried raw Mussels placed before me by a trusted Sushi chef. Hummmmmmmm just checked the tide charts and for me to pull some Mussels off the rock wood mean going out after Sunset. Love my 10 mile runs that include the Green Flash which I saw as Green rather then the blue of the past few days. So probably no Mussels to go with my Homemade Green Chile Stew
Ooooooops Satellite ALARM and dis one is always a Byyyyyyyyyytch to fix
OUT OF HERE