Topic: Female circumcision is barbaric. Male circumcision is applauded.
Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago #24,824
Discuss.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #381,753
I feel bad for guys who have their dicks mutilated like that. So unattractive. Can only get jewish girls. And gross Americans.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #381,755
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I am circumcised.
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They're both horrible. Male circumcision is only popular with the jews and jews-run countries.
They're both horrible. Male circumcision is only popular with the jews and jews-run countries.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #381,762
Male circumcision is only applauded by religious fucknuts in Islam and Judaism. In Europe (pretty much) babies never get circumcised unless it's medically nessesary, it's been that way for generations. Only Americunts are stupid enough to mutilate their babies penises for literally no reason.
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Because many women die, or are rendered completely unable to have orgasms because of it. Also, they are prone to infection, and often need to be recut every time that the have intercourse or birth a child.
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lol Its cute when people try and say that male and female circumcision are equally harmful. Whats also funny is that the majority of religious leaders, pushing against a male circumcision ban are men. Men hurting each other once again, but the truth hurts, so males ignore this.
lol Its cute when people try and say that male and female circumcision are equally harmful. Whats also funny is that the majority of religious leaders, pushing against a male circumcision ban are men. Men hurting each other once again, but the truth hurts, so males ignore this.
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Male circumcision isn't nearly as damaging as female circumcision, though both need to end.
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You have unprotected sex acts with black people, even though you dont consider them to be human.
You have unprotected sex acts with black people, even though you dont consider them to be human.
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itt: autists
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Thanks
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I remember this story from the Bible about circumcision. I actually heard it mentioned on Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles so my memory is vague and I'll fill in some names with modern ones.
Okay this neighboring nation pissed off Israel, let's call them Palestine. And so the king of Israel, let's call him Ben, told the king of Palestine, Yasser, that to make ammends that all the Palestinian males must be circumcised. So then Yasser delivers Ben all their foreskins as proof and thinks the Israelis will play nice. Then the next day while the Palestinians are suffering from the pain of circumcision, Ben leads the Israeli military in to kill all the Palestinians.
So if anyone knows the story from the bible with correct names, please post.
Okay this neighboring nation pissed off Israel, let's call them Palestine. And so the king of Israel, let's call him Ben, told the king of Palestine, Yasser, that to make ammends that all the Palestinian males must be circumcised. So then Yasser delivers Ben all their foreskins as proof and thinks the Israelis will play nice. Then the next day while the Palestinians are suffering from the pain of circumcision, Ben leads the Israeli military in to kill all the Palestinians.
So if anyone knows the story from the bible with correct names, please post.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #382,433
A Reminder ........Rabbis used to use their teeth and many still do, to chomp off the foreskin.
It is my theory that Circumcision came about because of Pedophile Rabbis long ago.
It is my theory that Circumcision came about because of Pedophile Rabbis long ago.
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Full wiki wid no edits re work tyme it includes Herpes from Dirty rotten Rabbi to the child.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah
Suction, metzitzah
Hemostat (center) is used to keep the two layers of the foreskin together so that they are cut and removed as one. The guard (top center) is slid over the foreskin as close to the glans as possible to allow for maximum removal of the former without any injury to the latter. The scalpel is used to detach the foreskin, and the underlying blue bag is a sterilization pouch for the metal tools. The tube (center left) was used for metzitzah
In addition to milah (the actual circumcision) and priah, mentioned above, the Talmud (Mishnah Shabbat 19:2) mentions a third step, metzitzah (sucking),[14][15] as one of the four steps involved in the circumcision rite. The above Talmud [16] writes that this step is required to be done even on Sabbath, (despite that causing bleeding on Sabbath is usually a Bibilical prohibition). The Talmud further emphasizes this step and writes that a "Mohel (Circumciser) who does not suck, should be dismissed (from practice)".
This step is in order to squeeze some blood from deep inside the wound, and to prevent danger to the baby as explained in commentaries on the Talmud.[17]
There are modern antiseptic and antibiotic techniques—all used as part of the brit milah today—which some say accomplish the intended purpose of metzitzah, however, since metzitzah is one of the four requirements to fulfil Mitzvah, it is still widely practiced to this day.[18]
Metzitzah Techniques
Recently especially since 2005, the original mezizah which means suction, is becoming controversial. It is referred to as metzitzah b'peh, or oral suction,[19][20] where the mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound on the baby's penis. Opponents argue that the traditional reason for mezizah in the Talmud is to minimize the potential for postoperative complications,[21][22] although the practice has been demonstrated to pose a serious risk of spreading herpes to the infant.[23][24] Preponents say that there is no evidence that links herpes to Metzitza, and attempts to limit this practice infringes on religious freedom[25] .[26]
Beginning in around the 18th century[citation needed], however, it was known that this technique itself can spread infection (ironically, prevention of which was the very reason metzitzah was instituted) and harm the baby. Thus, it became quite common in the Jewish world to perform metzitzah via a safe method, such as a sterilized glass tube. This removes all risk and is almost the universal practice today[citation needed], although in the ultra-Orthodox communities, most notably Hassidic Jews and some communities in Israel, many continue to use the oral method. [27][28] However, the practice has become a controversy in both secular and Jewish medical ethics. The ritual of metzitzah is found in Mishnah Shabbat 19:2, which lists it as one of the four steps involved in the circumcision rite. Moses Sofer (1762–1839) observed that the Talmud states that the rationale for this part of the ritual was hygienic — i.e., to protect the health of the child. The Chasam Sofer permitted metzitzah with a sponge to be used instead of oral suction in a case presented to him for a ruling. His letter was published in Kochvei Yitzchok.[29] Moshe Shik (1807–1879), a student of Moses Sofer, states in his book of Responsa, She’eilos u’teshuvos Maharam Shik (Orach Chaim 152,)[further explanation needed] that Moses Sofer gave the ruling in that specific instance only and that it may not be applied elsewhere. He also states (Yoreh Deah 244) that the practice is possibly a Sinaitic tradition, i.e., Halacha l'Moshe m'Sinai.
Chaim Hezekiah Medini claimed the practice to be Halacha l'Moshe m'Sinai and elaborates on what prompted Moses Sofer to give the above ruling.[30] He tells the story that a student of Moses Sofer, Lazar Horowitz, author of Yad Elazer and Chief Rabbi of Vienna at the time, needed the ruling because of a governmental attempt to ban circumcision completely if it included metztitzah b'peh. He therefore asked Sofer to give him permission to do brit milah without metzitzah b’peh. When he presented the defense in secular court, they erroneously recorded his testimony to mean that Sofer stated it as a general ruling.[31]
"Chair of Elijah" used during the brit milah ceremony
Yaakov Aryeh Alter as Sandek
The practice of metzitzah b'peh was alleged to pose a serious risk in the transfer of herpes from mohelim to eight Israeli infants, one of whom suffered brain damage.[23][32] When three New York City infants contracted herpes after metzizah b'peh by one mohel and one of them died, New York authorities took out a restraining order against the mohel requiring use of a sterile glass tube, or pipette.[28][33] However, the mohel's attorney argued that the New York Department of Health had not supplied conclusive medical evidence linking his client with the disease.[33][34] In September 2005, the city withdrew the restraining order and turned the matter over to a rabbinical court.[35] Dr. Thomas Frieden, the Health Commissioner of New York City, wrote, "There exists no reasonable doubt that ‘metzitzah b'peh’ can and has caused neonatal herpes infection.…The Health Department recommends that infants being circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh."[36] In May 2006, the Department of Health for New York State, issued a protocol for the performance of metzitzah b'peh.[37] Dr. Antonia C. Novello, Commissioner of Health for New York State, together with a board of rabbis and doctors, worked, she said, to "allow the practice of metzizah b'peh to continue while still meeting the Department of Health's responsibility to protect the public health."[38]
In three medical papers done in Israel, Canada, and the USA, oral suction following circumcision was suggested as a cause in 11 cases of neonatal herpes.[23][39][40] Researchers noted that prior to 1997, neonatal herpes reports in Israel were rare, and that the late incidences were correlated with the mothers not carrying the virus themselves.[23] Rabbi Doctor Mordechai Halperin implicates the "better hygiene and living conditions that prevail among the younger generation", which lowered the rate of young Israeli Chareidi mothers that carry the virus, to 60%. He explains that an "absence of antibodies in the mothers’ blood means that their newborn sons received no such antibodies through the placenta, and therefore are vulnerable to infection by HSV-1."[22]
However, in an article titled “Is Metzitza bePeh Dangerous?†written by Dr. Daniel S. Berman, MD, Chief of Infectious-Disease at New York Westchester Square Hospital, he argues that there is no proof linking Metzitza bePeh to neonatal herpes infection.[41]
Because of the risk of infection, some rabbinical authorities have ruled that the traditional practice of direct contact should be replaced by using a glass tube between the wound and the mohel's mouth, so there is no direct oral contact. The Rabbinical Council of America, the largest group of Modern Orthodox rabbis, endorses this method.[42] The RCA paper states: "Rabbi Schachter even reports that Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik reports that his father, Rav Moshe Soloveitchik, would not permit a mohel to perform metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact, and that his grandfather, Rav Chaim Soloveitchik, instructed mohelim in Brisk not to do metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact. However, although Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik also generally prohibited metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact, he did not ban it by those who insisted upon it,...". The sefer Mitzvas Hametzitzah[43] by Rabbi Sinai Schiffer of Baden, Germany, states that he is in possession of letters from 36 major Russian (Lithuanian) rabbis that categorically prohibit Metzitzah with a sponge and require it to be done orally. Among them is Rabbi Chaim Halevi Soloveitchik of Brisk.
Additionally, the Talmud explicitly instructs that a boy must not be circumcised if he had two brothers who died due to complications arising from their circumcisions;[44] this may be due to a concern about haemophilia.[44] An Israeli study found a high rate of urinary tract infections if the bandage is left on too long.[45]
In September 2012, the New York Department of Health unanimously ruled that the practice of metztizah b'peh should require informed consent from the parent or guardian of the child undergoing the ritual.[46] Prior to the ruling, several hundred rabbis, including Rabbi David Neiderman, the executive diretor of the United Jewish Organization of Williamsburg, signed a declaration stating that they would not inform parents of the potential dangers that came with metzitzah b'peh, even if informed consent became law.[47]
Full wiki wid no edits re work tyme it includes Herpes from Dirty rotten Rabbi to the child.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah
Suction, metzitzah
Hemostat (center) is used to keep the two layers of the foreskin together so that they are cut and removed as one. The guard (top center) is slid over the foreskin as close to the glans as possible to allow for maximum removal of the former without any injury to the latter. The scalpel is used to detach the foreskin, and the underlying blue bag is a sterilization pouch for the metal tools. The tube (center left) was used for metzitzah
In addition to milah (the actual circumcision) and priah, mentioned above, the Talmud (Mishnah Shabbat 19:2) mentions a third step, metzitzah (sucking),[14][15] as one of the four steps involved in the circumcision rite. The above Talmud [16] writes that this step is required to be done even on Sabbath, (despite that causing bleeding on Sabbath is usually a Bibilical prohibition). The Talmud further emphasizes this step and writes that a "Mohel (Circumciser) who does not suck, should be dismissed (from practice)".
This step is in order to squeeze some blood from deep inside the wound, and to prevent danger to the baby as explained in commentaries on the Talmud.[17]
There are modern antiseptic and antibiotic techniques—all used as part of the brit milah today—which some say accomplish the intended purpose of metzitzah, however, since metzitzah is one of the four requirements to fulfil Mitzvah, it is still widely practiced to this day.[18]
Metzitzah Techniques
Recently especially since 2005, the original mezizah which means suction, is becoming controversial. It is referred to as metzitzah b'peh, or oral suction,[19][20] where the mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound on the baby's penis. Opponents argue that the traditional reason for mezizah in the Talmud is to minimize the potential for postoperative complications,[21][22] although the practice has been demonstrated to pose a serious risk of spreading herpes to the infant.[23][24] Preponents say that there is no evidence that links herpes to Metzitza, and attempts to limit this practice infringes on religious freedom[25] .[26]
Beginning in around the 18th century[citation needed], however, it was known that this technique itself can spread infection (ironically, prevention of which was the very reason metzitzah was instituted) and harm the baby. Thus, it became quite common in the Jewish world to perform metzitzah via a safe method, such as a sterilized glass tube. This removes all risk and is almost the universal practice today[citation needed], although in the ultra-Orthodox communities, most notably Hassidic Jews and some communities in Israel, many continue to use the oral method. [27][28] However, the practice has become a controversy in both secular and Jewish medical ethics. The ritual of metzitzah is found in Mishnah Shabbat 19:2, which lists it as one of the four steps involved in the circumcision rite. Moses Sofer (1762–1839) observed that the Talmud states that the rationale for this part of the ritual was hygienic — i.e., to protect the health of the child. The Chasam Sofer permitted metzitzah with a sponge to be used instead of oral suction in a case presented to him for a ruling. His letter was published in Kochvei Yitzchok.[29] Moshe Shik (1807–1879), a student of Moses Sofer, states in his book of Responsa, She’eilos u’teshuvos Maharam Shik (Orach Chaim 152,)[further explanation needed] that Moses Sofer gave the ruling in that specific instance only and that it may not be applied elsewhere. He also states (Yoreh Deah 244) that the practice is possibly a Sinaitic tradition, i.e., Halacha l'Moshe m'Sinai.
Chaim Hezekiah Medini claimed the practice to be Halacha l'Moshe m'Sinai and elaborates on what prompted Moses Sofer to give the above ruling.[30] He tells the story that a student of Moses Sofer, Lazar Horowitz, author of Yad Elazer and Chief Rabbi of Vienna at the time, needed the ruling because of a governmental attempt to ban circumcision completely if it included metztitzah b'peh. He therefore asked Sofer to give him permission to do brit milah without metzitzah b’peh. When he presented the defense in secular court, they erroneously recorded his testimony to mean that Sofer stated it as a general ruling.[31]
"Chair of Elijah" used during the brit milah ceremony
Yaakov Aryeh Alter as Sandek
The practice of metzitzah b'peh was alleged to pose a serious risk in the transfer of herpes from mohelim to eight Israeli infants, one of whom suffered brain damage.[23][32] When three New York City infants contracted herpes after metzizah b'peh by one mohel and one of them died, New York authorities took out a restraining order against the mohel requiring use of a sterile glass tube, or pipette.[28][33] However, the mohel's attorney argued that the New York Department of Health had not supplied conclusive medical evidence linking his client with the disease.[33][34] In September 2005, the city withdrew the restraining order and turned the matter over to a rabbinical court.[35] Dr. Thomas Frieden, the Health Commissioner of New York City, wrote, "There exists no reasonable doubt that ‘metzitzah b'peh’ can and has caused neonatal herpes infection.…The Health Department recommends that infants being circumcised not undergo metzitzah b'peh."[36] In May 2006, the Department of Health for New York State, issued a protocol for the performance of metzitzah b'peh.[37] Dr. Antonia C. Novello, Commissioner of Health for New York State, together with a board of rabbis and doctors, worked, she said, to "allow the practice of metzizah b'peh to continue while still meeting the Department of Health's responsibility to protect the public health."[38]
In three medical papers done in Israel, Canada, and the USA, oral suction following circumcision was suggested as a cause in 11 cases of neonatal herpes.[23][39][40] Researchers noted that prior to 1997, neonatal herpes reports in Israel were rare, and that the late incidences were correlated with the mothers not carrying the virus themselves.[23] Rabbi Doctor Mordechai Halperin implicates the "better hygiene and living conditions that prevail among the younger generation", which lowered the rate of young Israeli Chareidi mothers that carry the virus, to 60%. He explains that an "absence of antibodies in the mothers’ blood means that their newborn sons received no such antibodies through the placenta, and therefore are vulnerable to infection by HSV-1."[22]
However, in an article titled “Is Metzitza bePeh Dangerous?†written by Dr. Daniel S. Berman, MD, Chief of Infectious-Disease at New York Westchester Square Hospital, he argues that there is no proof linking Metzitza bePeh to neonatal herpes infection.[41]
Because of the risk of infection, some rabbinical authorities have ruled that the traditional practice of direct contact should be replaced by using a glass tube between the wound and the mohel's mouth, so there is no direct oral contact. The Rabbinical Council of America, the largest group of Modern Orthodox rabbis, endorses this method.[42] The RCA paper states: "Rabbi Schachter even reports that Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik reports that his father, Rav Moshe Soloveitchik, would not permit a mohel to perform metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact, and that his grandfather, Rav Chaim Soloveitchik, instructed mohelim in Brisk not to do metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact. However, although Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik also generally prohibited metzitza be’peh with direct oral contact, he did not ban it by those who insisted upon it,...". The sefer Mitzvas Hametzitzah[43] by Rabbi Sinai Schiffer of Baden, Germany, states that he is in possession of letters from 36 major Russian (Lithuanian) rabbis that categorically prohibit Metzitzah with a sponge and require it to be done orally. Among them is Rabbi Chaim Halevi Soloveitchik of Brisk.
Additionally, the Talmud explicitly instructs that a boy must not be circumcised if he had two brothers who died due to complications arising from their circumcisions;[44] this may be due to a concern about haemophilia.[44] An Israeli study found a high rate of urinary tract infections if the bandage is left on too long.[45]
In September 2012, the New York Department of Health unanimously ruled that the practice of metztizah b'peh should require informed consent from the parent or guardian of the child undergoing the ritual.[46] Prior to the ruling, several hundred rabbis, including Rabbi David Neiderman, the executive diretor of the United Jewish Organization of Williamsburg, signed a declaration stating that they would not inform parents of the potential dangers that came with metzitzah b'peh, even if informed consent became law.[47]
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Gratitude
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Gratitude, thankfulness, gratefulness, or appreciation is a feeling or attitude in acknowledgment of a benefit that one has received or will receive. The experience of gratitude has historically been a focus of several world religions,[1] and has been considered extensively by moral philosophers such as Adam Smith.[2] The systematic study of gratitude within psychology only began around the year 2000, possibly because psychology has traditionally been focused more on understanding distress rather than understanding positive emotions. However, with the advent of the positive psychology movement,[3] gratitude has become a mainstream focus of psychological research.[4] The study of gratitude within psychology has focused on the understanding of the short term experience of the emotion of gratitude (state gratitude), individual differences in how frequently people feel gratitude (trait gratitude), and the relationship between these two aspects.[5][6]
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Contents
1 Comparison with indebtedness
2 As a motivator of behavior
3 Major theoretical approaches
3.1 Jewish conceptions
3.2 Christian conceptions
3.3 Islamic conceptions
4 Individual differences
5 Empirical findings
5.1 Association with well-being
5.2 Relationship to altruism
5.3 Psychological interventions
6 Conclusions
7 Further reading
8 See also
9 References
Comparison with indebtedness
Gratitude is not the same as indebtedness. While both emotions occur following help, indebtedness occurs when a person perceives that they are under an obligation to make some repayment of compensation for the aid.[7] The emotions lead to different actions; indebtedness can motivate the recipient of the aid to avoid the person who has helped them, whereas gratitude can motivate the recipient to seek out their benefactor and to improve their relationship with them.[8][9]
As a motivator of behavior
Gratitude may also serve to reinforce future prosocial behavior in benefactors. For example, one experiment found that customers of a jewelry store who were called and thanked showed a subsequent 70% increase in purchases. In comparison, customers who were thanked and told about a sale showed only a 30% increase in purchases, and customers who were not called at all did not show an increase.[10] In another study, regular patrons of a restaurant gave bigger tips when servers wrote "Thank you" on their checks.[11]
Major theoretical approaches
The link between spirituality and gratitude has recently become a popular subject of study. While these two characteristics are certainly not dependent on each other, studies have found that spirituality is capable of enhancing a person’s ability to be grateful and therefore, those who regularly attend religious services or engage in religious activities are more likely to have a greater sense of gratitude in all areas of life.[12][13] Gratitude is viewed as a prized human propensity in the Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, and Hindu traditions.[14] Worship with gratitude to God is a common theme in such religions and therefore, the concept of gratitude permeates religious texts, teachings, and traditions. For this reason, it is one of the most common emotions that religions aim to provoke and maintain in followers and is regarded as a universal religious sentiment. [15]
Jewish conceptions
In Judaism, gratitude is an essential part of the act of worship and a part of every aspect of a worshiper’s life. According to the Hebrew worldview, all things come from God and because of this, gratitude is extremely important to the followers of Judaism. The Hebrew Scriptures are filled with the idea of gratitude. Two examples included in the psalms are "O Lord my God, I will give thanks to you forever," and "I will give thanks to the Lord with my whole heart" (Ps. 30:12; Ps. 9:1). The Jewish prayers also often incorporate gratitude beginning with the Shema, where the worshiper states that out of gratitude, "You shall love the Eternal, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might" (Deut. 6:5). The concluding prayer, the Alenu, also speaks of gratitude by thanking God for the particular destiny of the Jewish people. Along with these prayers, faithful worshipers recite more than one hundred blessings called berachot throughout the day.[14] In Judaism there is also a major emphasis on gratitude for acts of human kindness and goodness. Once you stop being selfish you appreciate other people and therefore appreciate when they do something nice hence you can be grateful.
Christian conceptions
New Orleans: Thank you message in the grotto of Our Lady of Guadalupe Church; added by those for whom prayer or miracles were granted
Gratitude has been said to mold and shape the entire Christian life. Martin Luther referred to gratitude as "The basic Christian attitude" and today it is still referred to as "the heart of the gospel."[15] As each Christian believes they were created by a personal God, Christians are strongly encouraged to praise and give gratitude to their creator. In Christian gratitude, God is seen as the selfless giver of all good things and because of this, there is a great sense of indebtedness that enables Christians to share a common bond, shaping all aspects of a follower’s life. Gratitude in Christianity is an acknowledgment of God’s generosity that inspires Christians to shape their own thoughts and actions around such ideals.[16] Instead of simply a sentimental feeling, Christian gratitude is regarded as a virtue that shapes not only emotions and thoughts but actions and deeds as well.[15] According to Jonathan Edwards (theologian), in his A Treatise Concerning Religious Affections Love, Gratitude, and thankfulness toward God are among the signs of true religion. Because of this interpretation, modern measures of religious spirituality include assessments of thankfulness and gratitude towards God. Allport (1950) suggested that mature religious intentions come from feelings of profound gratitude and Edwards (1746/1959) claimed that the "affection" of gratitude is one of the most accurate ways of finding the presence of God in a person’s life. In a study done by Samuels and Lester (1985) it was contended that in a small sample of Catholic nuns and priests, out of 50 emotions, love and gratitude were the most experienced emotion towards God.[14]
In the Orthodox, Catholic and Anglican Churches, the most important rite is called the Eucharist; the name derives from the Greek word eucharistia for thanksgiving.
Islamic conceptions
The Islamic sacred text, The Quran, is filled with the idea of gratitude. Islam encourages its followers to be grateful and express thanks to God in all circumstances. Islamic teaching emphasizes the idea that those who are grateful will be rewarded with more. A traditional Islamic saying states that, "The first who will be summoned to paradise are those who have praised God in every circumstance"[17] In the Quran it is also stated in Sura 14 that those who are grateful will be given more by God. The prophet Muhammad also said, "Gratitude for the abundance you have received is the best insurance that the abundance will continue."[citation needed] Many practices of the Islamic faith also encourage gratitude. The Pillar of Islam calling for daily prayer encourages believers to pray to God five times a day in order to thank him for his goodness. The pillar of fasting during the month of Ramadan is for the purpose of putting the believer in a state of gratitude.[14]
Individual differences
Much of the recent work psychological research into gratitude has focused on the nature of individual difference in gratitude, and the consequences of being a more or less grateful person.[4] Three scales have been developed to measure individual differences in gratitude, each of which assesses somewhat different conceptions.[18] The GQ6[19] measures individual differences in how frequently and intensely people feel gratitude. The Appreciation Scale[20] measures 8 different aspects of gratitude: appreciation of people, possessions, the present moment, rituals, feeling of awe, social comparisons, existential concerns, and behaviour which expresses gratitude. The GRAT[21] assesses gratitude towards other people, gratitude towards the world in general, and a lack of resentment for what you do not have. A recent study showed that each of these scales are actually all measuring the same way of approaching life; this suggests that individual differences in gratitude include all of these components.[18]
Empirical findings
Association with well-being
A large body of recent work has suggested that people who are more grateful have higher levels of subjective well-being. Grateful people are happier, less depressed, less stressed, and more satisfied with their lives and social relationships[19][22][23] Grateful people also have higher levels of control of their environments, personal growth, purpose in life, and self acceptance.[24] Grateful people have more positive ways of coping with the difficulties they experience in life, being more likely to seek support from other people, reinterpreted and grow from the experience, and spend more time planning how to deal with the problem.[25] Grateful people also have less negative coping strategies, being less likely to try to avoid the problem, deny there is a problem, blame themselves, or cope through substance use.[25] Grateful people sleep better, and this seems to be because they think less negative and more positive thoughts just before going to sleep.[26]
Gratitude has been said to have one of the strongest links with mental health of any character trait. Numerous studies suggest that grateful people are more likely to have higher levels of happiness and lower levels of stress and depression.[27][28] In one study concerning gratitude, participants were randomly assigned to one of six therapeutic intervention conditions designed to improve the participant’s overall quality of life (Seligman et. all., 2005).[29] Out of these conditions, it was found that the biggest short-term effects came from a "gratitude visit" where participants wrote and delivered a letter of gratitude to someone in their life. This condition showed a rise in happiness scores by 10 percent and a significant fall in depression scores, results which lasted up to one month after the visit. Out of the six conditions, the longest lasting effects were caused by the act of writing "gratitude journals" where participants were asked to write down three things they were grateful for every day. These participants’ happiness scores also increased and continued to increase each time they were tested periodically after the experiment. In fact, the greatest benefits were usually found to occur around six months after treatment began. This exercise was so successful that although participants were only asked to continue the journal for a week, many participants continued to keep the journal long after the study was over. Similar results have been found from studies conducted by Emmons and McCullough (2003)[12] and Lyubomirsky et. all. (2005).[28]
While many emotions and personality traits are important to well-being, there is evidence that gratitude may be uniquely important. First, a longitudinal study showed that people who were more grateful coped better with a life transition. Specifically, people who were more grateful before the transition were less stressed, less depressed, and more satisfied with their relationships three months later.[30] Second, two recent studies have suggested that gratitude may have a unique relationship with well-being, and can explain aspects of well-being that other personality traits cannot. Both studies showed that gratitude was able to explain more well-being than the Big Five and 30 of the most commonly studied personality traits.[22][24]
Relationship to altruism
Gratitude has also been shown to improve a person’s altruistic tendencies. One study conducted by David DeSteno and Monica Bartlett (2010) found that gratitude is correlated with economic generosity. In this study, using an economic game, increased gratitude was shown to directly mediate increased monetary giving. From these results, this study shows that gracious people are more likely to sacrifice individual gains for communal profit (DeSteno & Bartlett, 2010). A Study conducted by McCullough, Emmons, & Tsang, (2002) found similar correlations between gratitude and empathy, generosity, and helpfulness.[31][32]
Psychological interventions
Given that gratitude appears to be a strong determinant of people's well-being, several psychological interventions have been developed to increase gratitude.[4][33] For example, Watkins and colleagues[34] had participants test a number of different gratitude exercises, such as thinking about a living person for whom they were grateful, writing about someone for whom they were grateful, and writing a letter to deliver to someone for whom they were grateful. Participants in the control condition were asked to describe their living room. Participants who engaged in a gratitude exercise showed increases in their experiences of positive emotion immediately after the exercise, and this effect was strongest for participants who were asked to think about a person for whom they were grateful. Participants who had grateful personalities to begin with showed the greatest benefit from these gratitude exercises. See also gratitude journal.
Conclusions
According to Cicero, "Gratitude is not only the greatest of the virtues but the parent of all others." Multiple studies have shown the correlation between gratitude and increased wellbeing not only for the individual but for all people involved.[27][35] The positive psychology movement has embraced these studies and in an effort to increase overall wellbeing, has begun to make an effort to incorporate exercises to increase gratitude into the movement. Although in the past gratitude has been neglected by psychology, in recent years much progress has been made in studying gratitude and its positive effects.
Gratitude
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Gratitude, thankfulness, gratefulness, or appreciation is a feeling or attitude in acknowledgment of a benefit that one has received or will receive. The experience of gratitude has historically been a focus of several world religions,[1] and has been considered extensively by moral philosophers such as Adam Smith.[2] The systematic study of gratitude within psychology only began around the year 2000, possibly because psychology has traditionally been focused more on understanding distress rather than understanding positive emotions. However, with the advent of the positive psychology movement,[3] gratitude has become a mainstream focus of psychological research.[4] The study of gratitude within psychology has focused on the understanding of the short term experience of the emotion of gratitude (state gratitude), individual differences in how frequently people feel gratitude (trait gratitude), and the relationship between these two aspects.[5][6]
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Contents
1 Comparison with indebtedness
2 As a motivator of behavior
3 Major theoretical approaches
3.1 Jewish conceptions
3.2 Christian conceptions
3.3 Islamic conceptions
4 Individual differences
5 Empirical findings
5.1 Association with well-being
5.2 Relationship to altruism
5.3 Psychological interventions
6 Conclusions
7 Further reading
8 See also
9 References
Comparison with indebtedness
Gratitude is not the same as indebtedness. While both emotions occur following help, indebtedness occurs when a person perceives that they are under an obligation to make some repayment of compensation for the aid.[7] The emotions lead to different actions; indebtedness can motivate the recipient of the aid to avoid the person who has helped them, whereas gratitude can motivate the recipient to seek out their benefactor and to improve their relationship with them.[8][9]
As a motivator of behavior
Gratitude may also serve to reinforce future prosocial behavior in benefactors. For example, one experiment found that customers of a jewelry store who were called and thanked showed a subsequent 70% increase in purchases. In comparison, customers who were thanked and told about a sale showed only a 30% increase in purchases, and customers who were not called at all did not show an increase.[10] In another study, regular patrons of a restaurant gave bigger tips when servers wrote "Thank you" on their checks.[11]
Major theoretical approaches
The link between spirituality and gratitude has recently become a popular subject of study. While these two characteristics are certainly not dependent on each other, studies have found that spirituality is capable of enhancing a person’s ability to be grateful and therefore, those who regularly attend religious services or engage in religious activities are more likely to have a greater sense of gratitude in all areas of life.[12][13] Gratitude is viewed as a prized human propensity in the Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, and Hindu traditions.[14] Worship with gratitude to God is a common theme in such religions and therefore, the concept of gratitude permeates religious texts, teachings, and traditions. For this reason, it is one of the most common emotions that religions aim to provoke and maintain in followers and is regarded as a universal religious sentiment. [15]
Jewish conceptions
In Judaism, gratitude is an essential part of the act of worship and a part of every aspect of a worshiper’s life. According to the Hebrew worldview, all things come from God and because of this, gratitude is extremely important to the followers of Judaism. The Hebrew Scriptures are filled with the idea of gratitude. Two examples included in the psalms are "O Lord my God, I will give thanks to you forever," and "I will give thanks to the Lord with my whole heart" (Ps. 30:12; Ps. 9:1). The Jewish prayers also often incorporate gratitude beginning with the Shema, where the worshiper states that out of gratitude, "You shall love the Eternal, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your might" (Deut. 6:5). The concluding prayer, the Alenu, also speaks of gratitude by thanking God for the particular destiny of the Jewish people. Along with these prayers, faithful worshipers recite more than one hundred blessings called berachot throughout the day.[14] In Judaism there is also a major emphasis on gratitude for acts of human kindness and goodness. Once you stop being selfish you appreciate other people and therefore appreciate when they do something nice hence you can be grateful.
Christian conceptions
New Orleans: Thank you message in the grotto of Our Lady of Guadalupe Church; added by those for whom prayer or miracles were granted
Gratitude has been said to mold and shape the entire Christian life. Martin Luther referred to gratitude as "The basic Christian attitude" and today it is still referred to as "the heart of the gospel."[15] As each Christian believes they were created by a personal God, Christians are strongly encouraged to praise and give gratitude to their creator. In Christian gratitude, God is seen as the selfless giver of all good things and because of this, there is a great sense of indebtedness that enables Christians to share a common bond, shaping all aspects of a follower’s life. Gratitude in Christianity is an acknowledgment of God’s generosity that inspires Christians to shape their own thoughts and actions around such ideals.[16] Instead of simply a sentimental feeling, Christian gratitude is regarded as a virtue that shapes not only emotions and thoughts but actions and deeds as well.[15] According to Jonathan Edwards (theologian), in his A Treatise Concerning Religious Affections Love, Gratitude, and thankfulness toward God are among the signs of true religion. Because of this interpretation, modern measures of religious spirituality include assessments of thankfulness and gratitude towards God. Allport (1950) suggested that mature religious intentions come from feelings of profound gratitude and Edwards (1746/1959) claimed that the "affection" of gratitude is one of the most accurate ways of finding the presence of God in a person’s life. In a study done by Samuels and Lester (1985) it was contended that in a small sample of Catholic nuns and priests, out of 50 emotions, love and gratitude were the most experienced emotion towards God.[14]
In the Orthodox, Catholic and Anglican Churches, the most important rite is called the Eucharist; the name derives from the Greek word eucharistia for thanksgiving.
Islamic conceptions
The Islamic sacred text, The Quran, is filled with the idea of gratitude. Islam encourages its followers to be grateful and express thanks to God in all circumstances. Islamic teaching emphasizes the idea that those who are grateful will be rewarded with more. A traditional Islamic saying states that, "The first who will be summoned to paradise are those who have praised God in every circumstance"[17] In the Quran it is also stated in Sura 14 that those who are grateful will be given more by God. The prophet Muhammad also said, "Gratitude for the abundance you have received is the best insurance that the abundance will continue."[citation needed] Many practices of the Islamic faith also encourage gratitude. The Pillar of Islam calling for daily prayer encourages believers to pray to God five times a day in order to thank him for his goodness. The pillar of fasting during the month of Ramadan is for the purpose of putting the believer in a state of gratitude.[14]
Individual differences
Much of the recent work psychological research into gratitude has focused on the nature of individual difference in gratitude, and the consequences of being a more or less grateful person.[4] Three scales have been developed to measure individual differences in gratitude, each of which assesses somewhat different conceptions.[18] The GQ6[19] measures individual differences in how frequently and intensely people feel gratitude. The Appreciation Scale[20] measures 8 different aspects of gratitude: appreciation of people, possessions, the present moment, rituals, feeling of awe, social comparisons, existential concerns, and behaviour which expresses gratitude. The GRAT[21] assesses gratitude towards other people, gratitude towards the world in general, and a lack of resentment for what you do not have. A recent study showed that each of these scales are actually all measuring the same way of approaching life; this suggests that individual differences in gratitude include all of these components.[18]
Empirical findings
Association with well-being
A large body of recent work has suggested that people who are more grateful have higher levels of subjective well-being. Grateful people are happier, less depressed, less stressed, and more satisfied with their lives and social relationships[19][22][23] Grateful people also have higher levels of control of their environments, personal growth, purpose in life, and self acceptance.[24] Grateful people have more positive ways of coping with the difficulties they experience in life, being more likely to seek support from other people, reinterpreted and grow from the experience, and spend more time planning how to deal with the problem.[25] Grateful people also have less negative coping strategies, being less likely to try to avoid the problem, deny there is a problem, blame themselves, or cope through substance use.[25] Grateful people sleep better, and this seems to be because they think less negative and more positive thoughts just before going to sleep.[26]
Gratitude has been said to have one of the strongest links with mental health of any character trait. Numerous studies suggest that grateful people are more likely to have higher levels of happiness and lower levels of stress and depression.[27][28] In one study concerning gratitude, participants were randomly assigned to one of six therapeutic intervention conditions designed to improve the participant’s overall quality of life (Seligman et. all., 2005).[29] Out of these conditions, it was found that the biggest short-term effects came from a "gratitude visit" where participants wrote and delivered a letter of gratitude to someone in their life. This condition showed a rise in happiness scores by 10 percent and a significant fall in depression scores, results which lasted up to one month after the visit. Out of the six conditions, the longest lasting effects were caused by the act of writing "gratitude journals" where participants were asked to write down three things they were grateful for every day. These participants’ happiness scores also increased and continued to increase each time they were tested periodically after the experiment. In fact, the greatest benefits were usually found to occur around six months after treatment began. This exercise was so successful that although participants were only asked to continue the journal for a week, many participants continued to keep the journal long after the study was over. Similar results have been found from studies conducted by Emmons and McCullough (2003)[12] and Lyubomirsky et. all. (2005).[28]
While many emotions and personality traits are important to well-being, there is evidence that gratitude may be uniquely important. First, a longitudinal study showed that people who were more grateful coped better with a life transition. Specifically, people who were more grateful before the transition were less stressed, less depressed, and more satisfied with their relationships three months later.[30] Second, two recent studies have suggested that gratitude may have a unique relationship with well-being, and can explain aspects of well-being that other personality traits cannot. Both studies showed that gratitude was able to explain more well-being than the Big Five and 30 of the most commonly studied personality traits.[22][24]
Relationship to altruism
Gratitude has also been shown to improve a person’s altruistic tendencies. One study conducted by David DeSteno and Monica Bartlett (2010) found that gratitude is correlated with economic generosity. In this study, using an economic game, increased gratitude was shown to directly mediate increased monetary giving. From these results, this study shows that gracious people are more likely to sacrifice individual gains for communal profit (DeSteno & Bartlett, 2010). A Study conducted by McCullough, Emmons, & Tsang, (2002) found similar correlations between gratitude and empathy, generosity, and helpfulness.[31][32]
Psychological interventions
Given that gratitude appears to be a strong determinant of people's well-being, several psychological interventions have been developed to increase gratitude.[4][33] For example, Watkins and colleagues[34] had participants test a number of different gratitude exercises, such as thinking about a living person for whom they were grateful, writing about someone for whom they were grateful, and writing a letter to deliver to someone for whom they were grateful. Participants in the control condition were asked to describe their living room. Participants who engaged in a gratitude exercise showed increases in their experiences of positive emotion immediately after the exercise, and this effect was strongest for participants who were asked to think about a person for whom they were grateful. Participants who had grateful personalities to begin with showed the greatest benefit from these gratitude exercises. See also gratitude journal.
Conclusions
According to Cicero, "Gratitude is not only the greatest of the virtues but the parent of all others." Multiple studies have shown the correlation between gratitude and increased wellbeing not only for the individual but for all people involved.[27][35] The positive psychology movement has embraced these studies and in an effort to increase overall wellbeing, has begun to make an effort to incorporate exercises to increase gratitude into the movement. Although in the past gratitude has been neglected by psychology, in recent years much progress has been made in studying gratitude and its positive effects.
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@382,542 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
@382,546 (F)
@previous (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
So busy with work so I post fast using wiki by default NOR does one of YOU take the tyme to look at the Web to verify Teeth were used as SOP. Shame on me for going Wiki to prove a point n Shame on You for not being bright nuff to do your own research on Teeth..
Google 101 "Type in"Use of Teeth for Circumcision
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
Circumcision, Talmud Style
www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
He must and he does, and the practice has spread deadly diseases. ... on the eve of the Sabbath, he must chew [it] with his teeth and apply [it to the wound]
http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Christopher Donovan: Penis Mutilation, aka Male Circumcision: Did ...
theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Aug 10, 2010 – There's no use arguing with the anti-circ activists, who only got ... Here's the New York Times on Bloomberg meeting with the Rabbis on ... A circumcised penis does not produce smegma which acts as a ... Remember, just one Rabbi had performed an estimated 12,000 circumcisions with his lips and teeth ...
Lots more many more but seems One Wanna be Attorney shows too lazy to end up being any good unless she pays attention to falling in traps and defers to Name calling albeit it made Gloria Allred a small fortune.
@382,546 (F)
@previous (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
So busy with work so I post fast using wiki by default NOR does one of YOU take the tyme to look at the Web to verify Teeth were used as SOP. Shame on me for going Wiki to prove a point n Shame on You for not being bright nuff to do your own research on Teeth..
Google 101 "Type in"
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
Circumcision, Talmud Style
www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html
He must and he does, and the practice has spread deadly diseases. ... on the eve of the Sabbath, he must chew [it] with his teeth and apply [it to the wound]
http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Christopher Donovan: Penis Mutilation, aka Male Circumcision: Did ...
theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Aug 10, 2010 – There's no use arguing with the anti-circ activists, who only got ... Here's the New York Times on Bloomberg meeting with the Rabbis on ... A circumcised penis does not produce smegma which acts as a ... Remember, just one Rabbi had performed an estimated 12,000 circumcisions with his lips and teeth ...
Lots more many more but seems One Wanna be Attorney shows too lazy to end up being any good unless she pays attention to falling in traps and defers to Name calling albeit it made Gloria Allred a small fortune.
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,552
In that first link, they are talking about using teeth to chew a poultice, not the foreskin, and the second link is just a quote from some dude.
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beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,555
@382,549 (Syntax)
The first link is referring to chewing the cummin, not the foreskin. It's applied to the wound after circumcision is performed.
The second is just a blog commenter claiming teeth were used. He links to a NY Times article which doesn't say anything about teeth at all.
You're just making shit up.
The first link is referring to chewing the cummin, not the foreskin. It's applied to the wound after circumcision is performed.
The second is just a blog commenter claiming teeth were used. He links to a NY Times article which doesn't say anything about teeth at all.
You're just making shit up.
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@382,552 (F)
'''There once was a young lady from Heath,
Who circumcised young men with her teeth,
She said with a grin,
"It's not for the skin,"
"But rather for the cheese underneath.'''
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/ancient_origins_of_jewish_ritual_circumcision.htm
His escape was thwarted by a nommo guard who recovered the four sex souls by circumcising Ogo using his teeth.
It is important to note here that Ogo was circumcised with the teeth of the nommo, i.e., the skin was ripped off and torn out, not cut. This corresponds to the periah mitzah performed in the Jewish ritual. Griaule states also states that the ritual circumcision of a human being is a reenactment of this mythological story of Ogo. More important, the four recovered sex souls, known as the kilena, changed into a saselu (Boscia salicifolia, Oliver) tree and grew on the blood of the circumcision.
Circumcised by Jew using teeth
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?threads/circumcised-by-jew-using-teeth.49582/
http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Circumcision maybe a medical toss up, but, the conservative & orthodox Jews doing it by biting a child’s foreskin off with the teeth & lips ain’t. A very primitive practice, that resulted in a major scandal in New York City a few years ago.
Of interest, Herodotus didn’t list the ancient Jews among the circumcised peoples.
'''There once was a young lady from Heath,
Who circumcised young men with her teeth,
She said with a grin,
"It's not for the skin,"
"But rather for the cheese underneath.'''
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/ancient_origins_of_jewish_ritual_circumcision.htm
His escape was thwarted by a nommo guard who recovered the four sex souls by circumcising Ogo using his teeth.
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It is important to note here that Ogo was circumcised with the teeth of the nommo, i.e., the skin was ripped off and torn out, not cut. This corresponds to the periah mitzah performed in the Jewish ritual. Griaule states also states that the ritual circumcision of a human being is a reenactment of this mythological story of Ogo. More important, the four recovered sex souls, known as the kilena, changed into a saselu (Boscia salicifolia, Oliver) tree and grew on the blood of the circumcision.
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Circumcised by Jew using teeth
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?threads/circumcised-by-jew-using-teeth.49582/
http://theoccidentalobserver.net/tooblog/?p=3110&cpage=1
Circumcision maybe a medical toss up, but, the conservative & orthodox Jews doing it by biting a child’s foreskin off with the teeth & lips ain’t. A very primitive practice, that resulted in a major scandal in New York City a few years ago.
Of interest, Herodotus didn’t list the ancient Jews among the circumcised peoples.
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Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,594
@previous (Syntax)
In this link, where does it mention using teeth at all? By the way, a Howard Stern fan site isnt a proper source.
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?threads/circumcised-by-jew-using-teeth.49582/
In this link, where does it mention using teeth at all? By the way, a Howard Stern fan site isnt a proper source.
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?threads/circumcised-by-jew-using-teeth.49582/
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beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,597
@382,588 (Syntax)
Your proof is an African creation myth, and a Howard Stern fan site?
Your proof is an African creation myth, and a Howard Stern fan site?
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Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,598
@382,588 (Syntax)
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/ancient_origins_of_jewish_ritual_circumcision.htm
In this link, someone is attacked by a monster, and his foreskin is bitten off by the monster. This is not an ancient ritual, but a beast attack. damnlol
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/ancient_origins_of_jewish_ritual_circumcision.htm
In this link, someone is attacked by a monster, and his foreskin is bitten off by the monster. This is not an ancient ritual, but a beast attack. damnlol
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 37 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,621
@382,597 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
> Your proof a Howard Stern fan site?
Yea in rush re work load and plans later for day that WILL NOT NOT NOT get fucked up re work load I committed to...I wood normally never use Stern anything to prove anything.
This Teeth myth I have heard all my growing years. Its not hard to imagine that with a couple of the links I posted that looked well written on a fast skim - that IF this ugly horrid chopping off of Male Penis part has been going on for 15,000 years...That good knives 15,000 years ago vs Good teeth? Get the drift.
If that Rabbi is going to suck the Penis and you cannot deny with all the links posted that Sucking was/is the Norm ....That sharp teeth vs a dull stone (ok I used to research American Indians as a hobby and more and stone tools can be super sharp as a knife)
Anyway enough of this for me today - I think Women who are Pro chopping off part of Baby Penis should also have their own Clitoris Hood removed. These being exactly equal acts.
If the mother is not willing to undergo such then she has no business doing that to the kiddlet.
> Your proof a Howard Stern fan site?
Yea in rush re work load and plans later for day that WILL NOT NOT NOT get fucked up re work load I committed to...I wood normally never use Stern anything to prove anything.
This Teeth myth I have heard all my growing years. Its not hard to imagine that with a couple of the links I posted that looked well written on a fast skim - that IF this ugly horrid chopping off of Male Penis part has been going on for 15,000 years...That good knives 15,000 years ago vs Good teeth? Get the drift.
If that Rabbi is going to suck the Penis and you cannot deny with all the links posted that Sucking was/is the Norm ....That sharp teeth vs a dull stone (ok I used to research American Indians as a hobby and more and stone tools can be super sharp as a knife)
Anyway enough of this for me today - I think Women who are Pro chopping off part of Baby Penis should also have their own Clitoris Hood removed. These being exactly equal acts.
If the mother is not willing to undergo such then she has no business doing that to the kiddlet.
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Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,633
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,707
@382,621 (Syntax)
> Shame on me for going Wiki to prove a point n Shame on You for not being bright nuff to do your own research on Teeth..
> Lots more many more but seems One Wanna be Attorney shows too lazy to end up being any good unless she pays attention to falling in traps and defers to Name calling albeit it made Gloria Allred a small fortune.
lol fuck you you ignorant prick
> Shame on me for going Wiki to prove a point n Shame on You for not being bright nuff to do your own research on Teeth..
> Lots more many more but seems One Wanna be Attorney shows too lazy to end up being any good unless she pays attention to falling in traps and defers to Name calling albeit it made Gloria Allred a small fortune.
lol fuck you you ignorant prick
Anonymous F replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,714
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,716
@382,633 (F)
> No one has claimed to be pro circumcision.
@previous (F)
Yes it appears I did.....Sucking sucking men sucking boys penis but maybe not biting of part of Penis
Not true and if I HAD the Tyme I could do a simple search on MC to show the Pro peeps on subject
@382,707 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
OK OK You get an apology form Thee. I grew up hearing the stories about Rabbies ripping off foreskin with teeth. At that tyme I had no clue the Sucking of Penis by Male adults was very common practice. I have little doubt that it originated with use of teeth from the get go and maybe further research will beat this out OR Maybe Levi~cut~us who made the rule back in the dark ages, had some procedure
laid out?
So yes I could be in error about the biting n ripping off with Teeth. So for now an apology.
As to being ignorant I never said I was the 2nd cumming now did I.
I do make Mistrakes but no mistrake about You not seeing me at MC from now on!!!
Until tomorrow that is
Work day is over n I get to double bill one customer but of course that tyme sheet will have tomorrows date on it. I earned it I expect to be paid for the trouble and a PROBLEM of setting a load on port #29 is solved cause the manual clearly says port #29 is the only port not to be double parallel loaded re lack of current compliance. I found that in the manual yet the crew working on the problem never looked at Errata page for the telemetry module. I did....just a simple read of one paragraph so I B hero of the day. No Mistrake about that.
With that its tyme for my 10 Mile Run in the Sun but baby its cold outside and going to hit beach 2night at close to real freezing temps a rare deal at Beaches in So Cal.
Then Shower Eat n off to Tango del Rey.....Sue Palmer big band 2 dance 2
> No one has claimed to be pro circumcision.
@previous (F)
Yes it appears I did.....Sucking sucking men sucking boys penis but maybe not biting of part of Penis
Not true and if I HAD the Tyme I could do a simple search on MC to show the Pro peeps on subject
@382,707 (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
OK OK You get an apology form Thee. I grew up hearing the stories about Rabbies ripping off foreskin with teeth. At that tyme I had no clue the Sucking of Penis by Male adults was very common practice. I have little doubt that it originated with use of teeth from the get go and maybe further research will beat this out OR Maybe Levi~cut~us who made the rule back in the dark ages, had some procedure
laid out?
So yes I could be in error about the biting n ripping off with Teeth. So for now an apology.
As to being ignorant I never said I was the 2nd cumming now did I.
I do make Mistrakes but no mistrake about You not seeing me at MC from now on!!!
Until tomorrow that is
Work day is over n I get to double bill one customer but of course that tyme sheet will have tomorrows date on it. I earned it I expect to be paid for the trouble and a PROBLEM of setting a load on port #29 is solved cause the manual clearly says port #29 is the only port not to be double parallel loaded re lack of current compliance. I found that in the manual yet the crew working on the problem never looked at Errata page for the telemetry module. I did....just a simple read of one paragraph so I B hero of the day. No Mistrake about that.
With that its tyme for my 10 Mile Run in the Sun but baby its cold outside and going to hit beach 2night at close to real freezing temps a rare deal at Beaches in So Cal.
Then Shower Eat n off to Tango del Rey.....Sue Palmer big band 2 dance 2
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Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #382,738
Circumcision is for Jews, Muslims and Americlaps. Thanks.