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Anonymous A started this discussion 13 years ago#24,754
So I've been with my girl for a long time, and we've been discussing bringing another girl into the mix for a while now. She was more experienced than me when we got together, and over time I've wondered what it's like to hook up without commitment. She was surprisingly accepting of the idea. But since she's really not bi (maybe just a little) I suggested that we find another couple to play around with as it's really not fair for her with the single girl situation. I'm completely confident, and honestly wouldn't mind if the guy was bigger than me, or if he really rocked her world. After all, this is supposed to be fun for both of us. This surprised her, and she asked if I was sure about a thousand times before she admitted that she had thought this would be the better idea all along.
So am I crazy? I know this type of thing can seriously backfire on some people with jealousy/insecurity issues, but don't see that happening with us. We've been through some serious shit together and always came out stronger and closer because of it. Has anyone here ever done this type of thing? I would say "serious replies only" but I know that's completely futile.
Prime couple + Triads live about 15 mins south of me.
I am in a unique Polyamory relationship myself but it ain'ttttttt a three way as far as sex is concerned.
If you value your current relationship I don't think you should screw with it (pun intended)
They say that those who have tasted those mushrooms that kill very quickly say - Those mushrooms were the best tasting mushrooms ever. So is the bite worth it? I myself wood like the experience of messing with two nakkid ladies at the same tyme but its probably not going to happen in my life tyme. Couple of GF's of past have offered that up and I said no thank ya.
But I am NOT going for Three Strikes the next tyme. Deal is the current relationships are so good I am holding in for a very long term on these (2) been years now!
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 33 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#380,873
Too risky, wouldn't do it.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#380,874
No I like her just the way she is, I don't need another girl <3
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#380,875
@380,873 (C)
adding that I have met the couple that are featured in that Showtime show. They fully admit to serious problems with their own relationship as a couple because one will get in2 wanting more with ANOTHER and this happens to both of them. So its a running battle but makes a good show because they keep that part of the problem to a minimum for those that watch.
In real life for them its a much much bigger problem.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#380,878
Not a fan of open relationships/swinging. Too easy to fuck up a good relationship by bringing other people into the bedroom.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 21 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#380,879
I'm not talking about a poly situation here. We don't want a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just a like minded couple for some meaningless fun. I understand that jealousy can cause a lot of problems. Usually what happens is one of the two starts seeing people behind the other's back. I don't want a live-in or even a FWB. We both understand the difference between love and sex.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 53 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,903
@previous (A) > I've been with my girl for a long time,
Me thinks its simple really. How much do you want the current relationship to work?
You can hit the net with Google and look up the odds of success. I know the numbers are not in your favor. I play the odds doing Stock Market shit and made a small fortune on the election.
But of course now and then I take a real hit and lose. Its only money. But posted odds on some 3 way fun in the bedroom do not add up very well when you look at research. Does NOT mean you cannot have what you want but you have to be willing to lose what you have to get it. Lose of my money - well I can always make more tomorrow. A good/great relationship is hard to hold when YOU look at those around you.
Good luck Good question and keep on with that question.
Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,917
Personally I couldn't do it. I wouldn't even want to have a 3some with me and 2 girls. For me sex is a very personal thing and the idea of bringing in new participants just strikes me as odd and unnecessary. I don't want to share with anyone.
That being said, I'm not everyone. A lot of couples swing and have 3somes and orgies and are perfectly happy. Yeah maybe there are issues that come with it, but that's true of almost everything. Just decide for yourself if the reward is worth the possible consequences.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,918
@380,903 (Syntax)
These are all grate points, and trust me, we've been reading up on this for quite some time. I know that it doesn't work out for a large number of couples who try it, but if it was a 100% attrition rate there wouldn't be a lifestyle dedicated to it now would there? For each breakup story you read, you can also find a couple that has been married for 20+ years that participates from time to time. I understand that there is risk involved, but mediocrity and a constant nagging wonder without any risk doesn't sound too appealing either yano?
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,925
@previous (A)
er hummmmmmm did you fail to communicate something important? > but mediocrity and a constant nagging wonder without any risk doesn't sound too appealing either yano?
If you are saying SHE is pressing you for the experience? Then that's another problem.
Need more info before I say more on this.
Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,926
@previous (Syntax)
If she's nagging him to do it, and there's a specific guy. That'd be cause for concern. Maybe not though, it's better than just outright cheating.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,929
@380,925 (Syntax)
That's not what I meant at all. I mean me wondering for the rest of my life. She wasn't pressuring me at all. She admitted to thinking about it from time to time, but I'm the one who brought it up.
Just do it. So there's a chance you'll fuck up your relationship, oh well. Honestly if your girl just leaves you after the fact then she wasn't worth it to begin with. And if she openly wants to sleep with other guys you can trust me that eventually she'll do it with or without your consent. (Desires outweigh morals 10 to 1.)
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,934
@380,929 (A)
But how is cheating (albeit with permission) going to prevent cheating? Once people cheat, they tend to... cheat.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,935
@380,931 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
It's really more me than her to be honest. I'm the one who suggested it. If I'm honest with myself I think it would be me who would eventually cheat. Perhaps I'm just a selfish person who believes we only get one ticket and one ride. I truly believe she would never do anything behind my back. Again, we've been through A LOT together and I think if either of us were going to walk away it would have happened a long time ago.
I appreciate the honest replies though. Thanks for reminding me why I never abandoned this board. I love you guise.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#380,936
@380,934 (C)
I don't see it as cheating when there is knowledge beforehand and even participation on the other person's part.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,938
I want and one day soon will be able to afford any super sports car I want (Currently jammed up re daughter at Harvard Med)
What I want re car makes no sense because around here no place to drive a super fast machine from Italy. I have tried. Would end up killing myself or have to drive it wayyyyyy out to desert on flat roads which is no fun at all and I tried that as well. So I would have to move to have the car and lose what I have without that car.
I fully admit with my current unique Polyamory relationship of bunch of years now - Sure I open about wishing it could beeeee but its not going to be that way. So I don't fully get what I want.
I look at what I have admitting I may lose out on that experience I have turned down with two other GF's that made the open offer to bring one of their GF's into bed for play or join us on a weekend vacation somewhere. See I missed out. So YES I regret turning the offers down.
Now on the other hand I might have fucked up what was two very nice extra nice relationships. One of the GF's told me about bringing in a 2nd male friend into the bedroom with her BF. The guys ended up getting along much too well and she was not prepared to see what she saw with wot happened to BF. End of that relationship real fast. Of course that at some point made her available to me me me.
One hell of a 3.5 year live in relationship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I could have said YES -- But regret the NO - Then again if at year 2.0 wot if that fucked over our relationship????
For the two of you at least you can be open and honest about how you feel and what you both need and keep doing that. More value out of that kind of communication then just simple sex.
No simple answer for you - I want what you want. I just met so many who tried and failed. Very few I have met who tried it found it worked. I know the net will agree with me because I attended a major party loaded with Poly people when I did my Comic Con gig last year in July. Fun looking crowd at party but so many fail stories of those into a little added play.
Role of the dice of life eh
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,940
@previous (Syntax) > I want what you want. I just met so many who tried and failed.
That's quitter talk, bud. I don't let other people's failure dissuade me. Of course it's a dice roll. At least it's one that can be somewhat prepared for, and discussed/researched at length beforehand. Do I want to lose everything? Of course not, and I wouldn't pursue it if I thought that was what would happen. Of course there's no guarantee. There's also no guarantee I won't drop dead from a brain tumor tomorrow. The older I get the more I subscribe to the "smoke 'em if you got 'em" philosophy.
Anonymous C replied with this 13 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,943
Do you have a couple in mind, OP?
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,944
@380,940 (A)
Cannot disagree with wot you just wrote. Every one of us could be dead tomorrow for a variety of reasons.
I hope both of you get what you want. Me I just looked at if or not to buy Gold cause the price was high high but keeps dropping ....Its all about timing for such as that. So today no buy cause bet is it will drop more so I can buy cheaper later.
So maybe on last word of advice. I would advice against any random person to add. Find someone with some careful evaluation. Like dating... better to make a friend first and get to know them. But hey I play market - business - engineering - with caution. You may play it successfully with less caution.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,945
@previous (Syntax)
realistically, you're a lot more likely to be dead tomorrow than anyone else here
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,951
My health based on blood pressure n heart rate and love of life as well as genetic history of family with 99-107 years of age and active as well on my Mothers side is amazing and she was Child number 18 so you can imagine the number of Aunts Uncles n Cousins Cousins so many Cousins and all super Healthy.
On my Dads side all males in order to live have pipes sliced and diced and patch work of pipes from legs to heart. But they LIVE! Bad Cholesterol Gene
Me I too was scheduled for such slice n dice but hit UCLA and Book Larned I could n did beat it. But later on my 10 Mile Run a dog could come after me and knock me off the Bluffs as I drop back down to beach - I have added more hill work re cutting the three pounds gained at Holidays.
OR Tomorrow and this has occurred just 5 minutes south of my beach. A Great White Shark did in a Surfer at Solana Beach. I see other Sharks often and one type of harmless Shark ever day. And you could cross the street later and be hit n killed so one never knows.
Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,975
@380,935 (A)
Well if you'd eventually cheat then what you're doing is probably a good idea. I admire your honesty btw.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,983
everybody here is forever alone and a permavirgin
Anonymous E replied with this 13 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#380,987
Lady Rainicorn !jRAInBow72 joined in and replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,000
Nope. I personally have been in a swinging relationship with an ex girlfriend of mine. After the girl we had fun with tried to get me in an exclusive and I said no, she turned my actual girlfriend against me, lying about my faithfulness. Apparently they got together, and later down the road "some how" the girl got pregnant. Gee. I've also experimented with polygamy before Krodan, when I didn't want a serious relationship. Didn't have time for it. Didn't want love. Hated it the whole time. Well, as they say. You live and learn.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 42 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,011
@380,943 (C)
Not really. We don't want it to be with anyone we know. That may sound shady, but we think it will lessen the chances of feelings developing between friends.
@380,944 (Syntax)
It will more than likely involve the help of the internets. Not Craigslist or anything. Might go out to a bar or something and try to meet some people. It's nothing we're rushing into at all. I don't even care if it takes a little while to make it happen. I'm smart enough to realize how wrong this could go if it's not handled properly.
@380,975 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
Thanks. I would rather tell the truth and face it then sneak around. I'm a bad liar and have a guilty conscience.
@previous (Lady Rainicorn !jRAInBow72)
That sucks to hear. That's why I think finding another secure couple will lessen the chances of something like that happening. We're even willing to go a little older than us (both mid-twenties) in hopes of finding more mature couples.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,056
@380,935 (A) > If I'm honest with myself I think it would be me who would eventually cheat.
I missed this vital part of your discussion. First I have to say this topic/thread is unique for MC. With the most minor of exceptions the advise has from everyone been uniquely honest. Frank discussion of a complex subject.
I bring this up on occasions across all platforms of the net except the business forums I post on for work
CHEATING
I currently am working my ass off to cover the expenses of a daughter who currently is on a 5 year MD program at Harvard Med School. I first had to put her through 6 years at Berkley for pre med cause that is what Harvard requires for admission - all who apply have about the same SAT's and Grades, so advanced pre med helps sort this out That maybe cost me $50-60K a year all expenses with on campus dorm housing and no car required'''
Harvard in round numbers is about $75,000 year no matter what their web site says and for the 5 year program no on campus housing works which means a car and the house I bought her
Harvard Med and as I understand it Harvard law requires all funds UPFRONT In ADVANCE or No admission. For all the years as well as all incidental expenses!!'''
SO WHY DO I BRING THIS SUBJECT UP HERE? Because this daughter is the result of ME YES ME Yours Truly CHEATING. Condom bought the day before a Trojan
They say if you're going to do the crime be prepared to do the time. AND AS I have said before this daughter has no clue I am the biological father.
Cheating can come at a high cost nor do I regret for one moment the Cheating. Ended up in Love with two women at the same tyme and currently am in Love with Two Women at the same tyme except this tyme no cheating.
I have also been through one serious relationship where the decision to abort was made after joint counseling. The Gal was sure she could not get pregnant, and did the first tyme we did the deed.
Its even possible I have another child or two out there. We males who have been around a few years, well one never knows and at least two women told me they did not want to use Birth Control so they could have my child. I have made a few very stupid mistrakes over tyme and such is life.
This post after drinking 1/2 bottle of a French Margaux 32 years old....Older then most of ya all.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,058
@previous (Syntax)
That's why I'm trying to control my actions by being upfront with her. I can pretty accurately predict my actions as I am the type to be led by my instincts. Also I'd never put my dick in another girl without a condom. I was 21 before I ever had sex without one. Fuck I still wear one if she misses her birth control. Never had a problem with them.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 20 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,061
@previous (A)
I need to word this more better > Because this daughter is the result of ME YES ME Yours Truly CHEATING. I bought the Trojan Condom, the day before.
Condoms do have a failure rate!!! GF who became pregnant was trying with her husband to become pregnant. So we both were cheating on our partners. For a number of years I was on standby to provide for one more child until that husband decided to not have one more. A test he was not aware of proved he had a zero sperm count and his blood type makes it impossible for him to be the dad. We did do a full Genetic test a few years after to confirm the daughter is of my making. Age 12-13 with a home hobby Microscope I verified my Swimmers are many in number and fast in speed.
Story for another tyme on another subject, but that proof led to loosing my virginity a few moments later after sharing those results.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 33 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,065
@previous (Syntax)
You are a very strange person, but I enjoy conversing with you.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,066
@previous (A)
LoL well we all get wot we pay for here.
Back when I lived in Marina del Rey with a condo at waters edge of the Marina, often I wood hear comments about me being eccentric.
Today while Surfing there were more Porpoise then I usually have around me and I am sure when they look at me they also think I am strange compared to themselves.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 28 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,077
@previous (Syntax)
I didn't know what to make of you for the longest time. I admire anyone who can keep up with the conversation no matter how random it becomes.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 13 years ago, 36 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,078
durp
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Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#381,081
@381,077 (A)
Well there are a slew of people that claim then cannot understand wot I rite and Becky only recently is on the rag about my long posts. Funny how she picks apart things I plant inside a post just as a small trap. Becky never misses those traps.
I fully admit to seeing a repost from long ago and cannot believe I wrote someThing. I do double takes to see if it is really me.
My Dyslexia is a real bytchhh.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 13 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#381,475
Bumpdate
Well we met a pretty cool couple online last night. They're right in our age bracket (23 and 22). We ended up Skyping with them for a couple of hours, talking about their experiences. They've done this twice, once with another girl and once with another couple. As an ice-breaker, we ended up having sex on cam while they did too. Must say that was an entirely new experience for us. Felt a little weird at first, but we got into it once they started too. He's packing about the same downstairs as me (maybe got me by an inch), and they both looked pretty good at what they do. We're supposed to meet them for some drinks tonight and go from there. May not even end up back at our place today. They seem like people we'd hang out with even if we weren't up to something.
We clearly outlined what our intentions are (just a friendly hook-up with no promise of a repeat and CONDOM USE NO EXCEPTIONS) and were glad to hear that they were looking for the same. They have a babby and seem like a really secure couple.
So I guess this shit is more than likely going to happen. Wish us luck. Or not.
Syntax replied with this 13 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#381,515