Topic: I was told that if we expect people to commit crimes, than they will do so.
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #24,433
Well this girl sure as shit didnt expect to be assaulted while unconscious and then blamed for it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sports/high-school-football-rape-case-unfolds-online-and-divides-steubenville-ohio.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/sports/high-school-football-rape-case-unfolds-online-and-divides-steubenville-ohio.html?pagewanted=all
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #378,070
Quote:
“The rape was just an excuse, I think,†said the 27-year-old Hubbard, who is No. 2 on the Big Red’s career rushing list.
“What else are you going to tell your parents when you come home drunk like that and after a night like that?†said Hubbard, who is one of the team’s 19 coaches. “She had to make up something. Now people are trying to blow up our football program because of it.â€
“The rape was just an excuse, I think,†said the 27-year-old Hubbard, who is No. 2 on the Big Red’s career rushing list.
“What else are you going to tell your parents when you come home drunk like that and after a night like that?†said Hubbard, who is one of the team’s 19 coaches. “She had to make up something. Now people are trying to blow up our football program because of it.â€
(◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 48 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,071
wrong link, gaylord
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 18 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,072
is that the right link
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,074
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 45 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,076
Quote from coach of players, who is very angry at reporters but not his little team of rapists:
Approached in November to be interviewed about the case, Saccoccia said he did not “do the Internet,†so he had not seen the comments and photographs posted online from that night. When asked again about the players involved and why he chose not to discipline them, he became agitated.
“You made me mad now,†he said, throwing in several expletives as he walked from the high school to his car.
Nearly nose to nose with a reporter, he growled: “You’re going to get yours. And if you don’t get yours, somebody close to you will.â€
Approached in November to be interviewed about the case, Saccoccia said he did not “do the Internet,†so he had not seen the comments and photographs posted online from that night. When asked again about the players involved and why he chose not to discipline them, he became agitated.
“You made me mad now,†he said, throwing in several expletives as he walked from the high school to his car.
Nearly nose to nose with a reporter, he growled: “You’re going to get yours. And if you don’t get yours, somebody close to you will.â€
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,077
One of the lawyers for the boys said that the pics of the assault were a gift. Because this girl had acted slutty at some point before she was assaulted:
He said that online photographs and posts could ultimately be “a gift†for his client’s case because the girl, before that night in August, had posted provocative comments and photographs on her Twitter page over time. He added that those online posts demonstrated that she was sexually active and showed that she was “clearly engaged in at-risk behavior.â€
He said that online photographs and posts could ultimately be “a gift†for his client’s case because the girl, before that night in August, had posted provocative comments and photographs on her Twitter page over time. He added that those online posts demonstrated that she was sexually active and showed that she was “clearly engaged in at-risk behavior.â€
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,079
Dox for the football players who dubbed themselves "the rape crew"
http://www.anonpaste.me/anonpaste2/index.php?070961bcde7bf9d7#sObkWjsK+ZbV9PeupgZlNbJxqzROmyhDSNo2erqpU2M=
http://www.anonpaste.me/anonpaste2/index.php?070961bcde7bf9d7#sObkWjsK+ZbV9PeupgZlNbJxqzROmyhDSNo2erqpU2M=
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,081
Official and frequently hacked site of the team blames the New York Times for disseminating information, and not their little high school rapists.
http://www.rollredroll.com/
http://www.rollredroll.com/
Anonymous A (OP) sextuple-posted this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,086
One of the little fuckers tried to sue a crime scene for defamation, because they reported the truth. It didnt work out. lol
http://prinniefied.com/wp/case-dismissed/#more-1357
http://prinniefied.com/wp/case-dismissed/#more-1357
Anonymous A (OP) septuple-posted this 14 years ago, 22 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #378,094
Quote from one of the involved. It wasnt his "place" to stop the assault. Real cute:
Mark Cole II, 17, said the victim was leaving one house and was so intoxicated she could barely walk.
“She wasn’t capable of walking on her own and was stumbling as walking,†Cole said.
Cole said he shot a video of sexual conduct in his car between Mays and the victim as they were driving to Cole’s house. Cole said he later deleted the video from his phone.
He said, at his house, Mays attempted to get the victim to perform oral sex on Mays.
Cole said it “wasn’t his place to determine if there was a sexual assault. He said he didn’t believe it was necessary to call his mother, who wasn’t at home, another adult or the police.
Cole did say the victim wasn’t moving at his house when the sexual assault took place.
He said Richmond was lying beside her with his hands around her groin area but couldn’t tell if Richmond was sexually touching the victim. He said he didn’t intervene because he didn’t at any time see the conduct by the defendants as “forceful.†Source: Mark Law, Herald Star
Mark Cole II, 17, said the victim was leaving one house and was so intoxicated she could barely walk.
“She wasn’t capable of walking on her own and was stumbling as walking,†Cole said.
Cole said he shot a video of sexual conduct in his car between Mays and the victim as they were driving to Cole’s house. Cole said he later deleted the video from his phone.
He said, at his house, Mays attempted to get the victim to perform oral sex on Mays.
Cole said it “wasn’t his place to determine if there was a sexual assault. He said he didn’t believe it was necessary to call his mother, who wasn’t at home, another adult or the police.
Cole did say the victim wasn’t moving at his house when the sexual assault took place.
He said Richmond was lying beside her with his hands around her groin area but couldn’t tell if Richmond was sexually touching the victim. He said he didn’t intervene because he didn’t at any time see the conduct by the defendants as “forceful.†Source: Mark Law, Herald Star
Anonymous A (OP) octuple-posted this 14 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,100
Quote from one of involved:Evan Westlake, 17, said he was at Cole’s house and was getting ready to leave when he saw the victim naked on her side. He said the victim wasn’t moving.
Westlake said Richmond was beside her and performing a sexual act and Mays was smacking his penis off her side.
When asked why he didn’t help, Westlake said, “I was stunned with what I saw. I wanted to get out of there. I didn’t know what to do.â€
What did Evan Westlake do? He was SO STUNNED with what he saw that HE MADE A VIDEO and posted it on youtube featuring his good pal, Michael Nodianos aka Nodi yapping about a “dead girlâ€. She was so incapacitated that they referred to her as “the dead body†or the dead girl.
EVAN WESTLAKE: Poor Evan was also so scared and “stunned†about what was happening that he had to pause for a moment to post to social media, and upload a video on Youtube. How about on his way to Mark Cole’s house? Was he scared and stunned while his friend was videotaping sex acts involving the victim? Didn’t he know then that this was wrong? How stunned was he when he uploaded video to his Youtube account in which Michael Nodianos gave a play by play of what was happening? Was he also documenting this in case the victim forgot and needed to be reminded of what had happened to her? These are guys that you want to leave your teenage daughters alone with, right? These are guys that you should be applauding as they rush across the field, right?
He was so stunned that he took to Twitter to tell all of his pals how upset he was. He and Nodianos were obviously beside themselves with fear and confusion. I bet they were shaking so hard they had to console each other because it was just so horrifying. They quickly got over their fear and confusion about what was happening and created youtube videos instead.
Anonymous A (OP) nonuple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,101
Quote from another involved player:
ANTHONY CRAIG: Here’s another standup guy who took a picture of the incident in case the victim didn’t know what was happening, even though he tweeted to Trent Mays that “Chris Hanson†was his worst nightmare. We all know who Chris Hanson is. Did Anthony Craig think that Chris Hanson would understand that photos have to be taken of comatose victims – you know…just in case they don’t remember anything or was it because the videos involved an underage girl who was nude and being sexually assaulted? Anthony Craig thought better of reminding the victim. Instead, he deleted the evidence from his cellphone. How come? It was important to remind the rape victim what happened according to his testimony. Did you have a change of heart, Anthony?
Anthony Craig, 18, said he could see the victim getting more drunk throughout the night.
“Just the way she handled herself and was walking and talking to people,†Craig said.
He said he went to Cole’s house where Cole showed him a video of what happened in Cole’s car.
Craig, who admitted to having a relationship with the victim, said he saw the victim naked in Cole’s basement. He said he saw Richmond laying beside her but couldn’t tell what Richmond was doing. He said Mays was smacking his penis off her side.
Craig said the victim was not responsive or participating.
Craig said he tried to tell Mays, his best friend, to stop it, and told him not to do anything he will regret.
Craig said Mays told him, “It is all right … don’t worry.â€
When asked how it feels to testify against his friend, Craig said. “It kills me.â€
Craig said he took a picture of the incident in case the victim didn’t know what was happening. He said he later deleted the picture from his cell phone.
Craig testified Mays sent him a naked picture of the victim the next day.
ANTHONY CRAIG: Here’s another standup guy who took a picture of the incident in case the victim didn’t know what was happening, even though he tweeted to Trent Mays that “Chris Hanson†was his worst nightmare. We all know who Chris Hanson is. Did Anthony Craig think that Chris Hanson would understand that photos have to be taken of comatose victims – you know…just in case they don’t remember anything or was it because the videos involved an underage girl who was nude and being sexually assaulted? Anthony Craig thought better of reminding the victim. Instead, he deleted the evidence from his cellphone. How come? It was important to remind the rape victim what happened according to his testimony. Did you have a change of heart, Anthony?
Anthony Craig, 18, said he could see the victim getting more drunk throughout the night.
“Just the way she handled herself and was walking and talking to people,†Craig said.
He said he went to Cole’s house where Cole showed him a video of what happened in Cole’s car.
Craig, who admitted to having a relationship with the victim, said he saw the victim naked in Cole’s basement. He said he saw Richmond laying beside her but couldn’t tell what Richmond was doing. He said Mays was smacking his penis off her side.
Craig said the victim was not responsive or participating.
Craig said he tried to tell Mays, his best friend, to stop it, and told him not to do anything he will regret.
Craig said Mays told him, “It is all right … don’t worry.â€
When asked how it feels to testify against his friend, Craig said. “It kills me.â€
Craig said he took a picture of the incident in case the victim didn’t know what was happening. He said he later deleted the picture from his cell phone.
Craig testified Mays sent him a naked picture of the victim the next day.
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,106
requesting Broseph's thoughts
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,109
@previous (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
I just love how its considered hateful for women to fear men, but clearly you have to keep your guard up around them at all times.
I just love how its considered hateful for women to fear men, but clearly you have to keep your guard up around them at all times.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,111
I was also told that this kind of victim blaming occurs for many other types of crimes. Which is a lie, but it does make people feel better, so I guess that it's okay.
beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ replied with this 14 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,112
@378,109 (A)
Not all men are rapists. Some of them just make videos of the assault and post them online.
Not all men are rapists. Some of them just make videos of the assault and post them online.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #378,115
@previous (beckyderp !CATLDyPIBQ)
Not all men are rapists, but many act like rapists, and defend rapists.
Not all men are rapists, but many act like rapists, and defend rapists.