> both populist stooges > both prone to gaffes > both chosen for looks > both chosen to pander to a base
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,163
@previous (D) > biden > chosen for looks > thinks those criteria aren't true of every VP pick ever
sup mm? tell us about some recent Australian politcs.
Ks notrip joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,165
@374,161 (D)
Biden has been an outstanding politician for 30 years, one of the few decent politicians around. I'm not sure what looks has to do with anything, you gay brah?
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,166
> supported Bosnian War > supported Iraq sanctions that killed 500,000 children > supported unconstitutional federal gun controls > expanded the federal death penalty > passed "anti-gang" laws prohibiting freedom of association > increased sentences for marijuana possession > tacked an anti-drug bill onto a child protection bill > created the "Drug Czar", a single person to run the Union's drug policy > voted for the Iraq War > voted for TARP > excluded from communion in his own church
What a great guy.
Anonymous D double-posted this 14 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,196
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,208
@374,203 (D)
Inane? You said that Biden was picked for looks. Completely relevant. Also, he's pretty wealthy for someone who doesnt care about mortal things.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,211
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4) > Is Biden super cute? lol > not an inane question
> Is Biden super cute? lol > not an inane question
> Is Biden super cute? lol > not an inane question
> Is Biden super cute? lol > not an inane question
Ks notrip replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,216
> >decent politician
Yep. > >supported Bosnian War
Not at all. Biden supported ending the Bosnian war, go check history. Biden was one of the few guys who even gave a shit. > >supported Iraq sanctions that killed 500,000 children
First those are UN sanctions, second those figures are only remotely accurate if you put faith into the figures coming from the former dictatorship in Iraq. http://reason.com/archives/2002/03/01/the-politics-of-dead-children > >supported unconstitutional federal gun controls
If the laws were unconstitutional the Supreme Court would have ruled them so. > >expanded the federal death penalty
I got no beef with that, but I can see how some people might. > >passed "anti-gang" laws prohibiting freedom of association
Gangs are a big problem in America, so I wouldn't be surprised. Yet I can't find anything in regards to what you've specified. So for now it's [citation needed]. > >increased sentences for marijuana possession
Unless I'm mistaken the penalties were for dealers only, but still, not great. > >tacked an anti-drug bill onto a child protection bill
The vast majority of Americans are anti-drug, Joe Biden is a representative of the people. Like or not, you're a minority if you're not anti-drug. > >created the "Drug Czar", a single person to run the Union's drug policy
This is a bit of a misnomer, Nixon created the position which was eventually called the 'drug czar'. While what you're saying is technically true becuase of the name, the position existed long before Biden had anything to do with it. Also, keep in mind what I said before about Americans being anti-drug. > >voted for the Iraq War
Fair enough. > >voted for TARP
Which was/is largely considered to be absolutely necessary to prevent a financial collapse of unparalleled proportions, and not only in America either, this would have drastically effected many countries. We've been over this before. > >excluded from communion in his own church
For supporting the right to choose concerning abortion. Are freedoms only a concern of yours when they are exactly what you believe, are you not concerned about the beliefs of others?
So you got Biden on voting for a war in Iraq. Given Biden voted against the first war in Iraq it seems likely he got bamboozled like the rest of us.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,222
> Not at all. Biden supported ending the Bosnian war, go check history. Biden was one of the few guys who even gave a shit.
He supported the USA entering the Bosnian war.
> First those are UN sanctions,
And he supported them.
> If the laws were unconstitutional the Supreme Court would have ruled them so.
...wait you're actually serious. You mean like all those time the supreme court overruled past decisions?
> Gangs are a big problem in America, so I wouldn't be surprised. Yet I can't find anything in regards to what you've specified. So for now it's [citation needed].
Go read Joe Biden's wikipedia page.
> Unless I'm mistaken the penalties were for dealers only, but still, not great.
You're mistaken.
> The vast majority of Americans are anti-drug, Joe Biden is a representative of the people. Like or not, you're a minority if you're not anti-drug.
What a cop out. This makes him a pandering sell out, not a decent politician.
> This is a bit of a misnomer, Nixon created the position which was eventually called the 'drug czar'. While what you're saying is technically true becuase of the name, the position existed long before Biden had anything to do with it. Also, keep in mind what I said before about Americans being anti-drug.
So everything Biden does good is his fault, but everything Biden does bad is not his fault?
> Which was/is largely considered to be absolutely necessary to prevent a financial collapse of unparalleled proportions, and not only in America either, this would have drastically effected many countries. We've been over this before.
I can't believe you still believe that. Back when we were making predictions, sure, but now we're looking back at the total failure that was and you still support it. wow.
> For supporting the right to choose concerning abortion. Are freedoms only a concern of yours when they are exactly what you believe, are you not concerned about the beliefs of others?
Whichever way you frame this it reflects poorly upon him i.e. He claims to be Catholic but isn't, or He remains part of a tyrannical organization that hates women, or He believes what he is doing is evil but he does it to be popular.
> the rest of us.
Seriously, only idiots fell for that.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,258
@previous (D)
Compelling arguments. You put forward excellent points, used real evidence and directly explained why his points were wrong.
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Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#374,284
@374,222 (D)
You claim to be a Catholic, but you're not.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#374,387
@previous (F)
No, I claim to believe that the Catholic religion is true. Like many Protestants throughout history, I will probably go to mass quietly for years before I convert fully.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#374,398
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,800
@374,195 (D) > >excluded from communion in his own church
lol
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,801
@previous (A)
Wasnt MM kicked out from his own church?
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,804
@374,800 (A)
Either you're right and the Church is wrong, and what the hell are you doing staying in a wrong church, or the Church is right and he is wrong, which means all his stated beliefs and opinions are worthless.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,805
@374,801 (F)
Yes. He showed too much interest in the underaged female members of his church.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,806
@374,804 (D)
Well, God isn't real, so I guess Joe is right by default.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,807
Joe Biden is just like Sarah Palin because they were both picked for their looks. Palin is a sexy, young Republican who wears bikinis on popular magazines, and Biden is a wrinkly, old white guy. Oh wait...
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#374,816