Topic: I just saw a crack deal on the bus
!tyLmN8C16E started this discussion 15 years ago #2,393
A man had several bags that contained baggies. Each bag of baggies contained about 8 large rocks.
He pulled one out and gave it to the woman next to him.
I told the driver and he called it in. They got wise to it and I followed them when they got off. He confronted me, but I was already planning to go to the nearby Walgreens, so that was an easy out.
I called 911 and gave the location and description. They got back on to the next bus, and I called 911 again with the bus ID number.
A transit police car came zooming up the street two minutes later. They're fucked :D
He pulled one out and gave it to the woman next to him.
I told the driver and he called it in. They got wise to it and I followed them when they got off. He confronted me, but I was already planning to go to the nearby Walgreens, so that was an easy out.
I called 911 and gave the location and description. They got back on to the next bus, and I called 911 again with the bus ID number.
A transit police car came zooming up the street two minutes later. They're fucked :D
The Editor !N9N..Fucks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #44,331
So... did you get any of that crack?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,340
Why did you do that?
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,342
@previous (C)
Really, I never would have. People should have every right to poison their own bodies.
Really, I never would have. People should have every right to poison their own bodies.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,345
fuck you too op
AC !tyLmN8C16E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,347
@44,340 (C)
@44,342 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
The crack dealers around here are problematic and create compounding social ills. They’re in my neighborhood, but I’m tacitly okay with it being mostly invisible.
This was on my regular bus route, during rush hour. Fuck that noise.
@previous (F)
And fuck you.
@44,342 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
The crack dealers around here are problematic and create compounding social ills. They’re in my neighborhood, but I’m tacitly okay with it being mostly invisible.
This was on my regular bus route, during rush hour. Fuck that noise.
@previous (F)
And fuck you.
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Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,348
@44,342 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I guess you're right. I just don't think AC was really accomplishing much by doing this. Sure, it wasn't a bad thing to do, but crack deals will always continue to happen anyway. I think it was more so that he should have minded his own business. I don't agree or disagree with what he did, but those are just my thoughts.
I guess you're right. I just don't think AC was really accomplishing much by doing this. Sure, it wasn't a bad thing to do, but crack deals will always continue to happen anyway. I think it was more so that he should have minded his own business. I don't agree or disagree with what he did, but those are just my thoughts.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,349
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,350
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,352
@44,348 (C)
Oh, sure, it won’t do a whole lot in the grand scheme of things, but the crack dealers are being pressured out of the adjacent neighborhood (Chinatown) and they’ve spilled out into mine.
They’ll continue, no doubt, but it’ll clearly be the most blatant and stupid dealers—like this one—who get caught.
Oh, sure, it won’t do a whole lot in the grand scheme of things, but the crack dealers are being pressured out of the adjacent neighborhood (Chinatown) and they’ve spilled out into mine.
They’ll continue, no doubt, but it’ll clearly be the most blatant and stupid dealers—like this one—who get caught.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,354
But seriously, it was a dick move. Why get these men busted if they were doing no harm? You enjoy smoking marijuana, why interfere with someone else's drug use? Alcohol causes much pain and social ills, so why aren't you out there campaigning for prohibition?
AC, I have lost quite a bit of respect for you.
AC, I have lost quite a bit of respect for you.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,356
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,357
@44,354 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
> AC, I have lost quite a bit of respect for you.
I wouldn't go that far lol.
> AC, I have lost quite a bit of respect for you.
I wouldn't go that far lol.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,359
@44,354 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
> You enjoy smoking marijuana, why interfere with someone else's drug use?
This is a good point.
> You enjoy smoking marijuana, why interfere with someone else's drug use?
This is a good point.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,361
I just saw a marijuana deal on the bus
A man had several bags that contained baggies. Each bag of baggies contained about 8 large leaves.
He pulled one out and gave it to the woman next to him.
I told the driver and he called it in. They got wise to it and I followed them when they got off. He confronted me, but I was already planning to go to the nearby Walgreens, so that was an easy out.
I called 911 and gave the location and description. They got back on to the next bus, and I called 911 again with the bus ID number.
A transit police car came zooming up the street two minutes later. They're fucked :D
A man had several bags that contained baggies. Each bag of baggies contained about 8 large leaves.
He pulled one out and gave it to the woman next to him.
I told the driver and he called it in. They got wise to it and I followed them when they got off. He confronted me, but I was already planning to go to the nearby Walgreens, so that was an easy out.
I called 911 and gave the location and description. They got back on to the next bus, and I called 911 again with the bus ID number.
A transit police car came zooming up the street two minutes later. They're fucked :D
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,362
Drama, drama, drama.
The butthurt in this thread is strong!
The butthurt in this thread is strong!
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,363
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,364
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,365
The Editor !N9N..Fucks replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,366
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,367
@44,354 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
I’m permitted it by the state and have a licensed grower. I am a registered caregiver for legitimate medical reasons, after spending several years and tens of thousands of dollars attempting to find effective treatments. I might project myself as being more into it than I really am.
I’m fine with people doing things in private. I’m not okay with people dealing openly. I’m especially less comfortable with crack, a drug that has been effectively vilified as being integral with violence.
I’m permitted it by the state and have a licensed grower. I am a registered caregiver for legitimate medical reasons, after spending several years and tens of thousands of dollars attempting to find effective treatments. I might project myself as being more into it than I really am.
I’m fine with people doing things in private. I’m not okay with people dealing openly. I’m especially less comfortable with crack, a drug that has been effectively vilified as being integral with violence.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,368
@44,361 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
AC would totally do this, because it's alright for him to enjoy his drugs, but others deserve to be arrested and jailed for ingesting substances he doesn't approve of.
AC would totally do this, because it's alright for him to enjoy his drugs, but others deserve to be arrested and jailed for ingesting substances he doesn't approve of.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,370
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,371
I'm okay with this. Junkies are scum who hurt everyone around them.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,372
@44,368 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Oh, sure. I’ve smelled marijuana on the bus, and assumed I knew who it was, but I never saw it.
I didn’t report it.
@previous (K)
lolthis, I’ve had bikes stolen from street tweakers for drug money
Oh, sure. I’ve smelled marijuana on the bus, and assumed I knew who it was, but I never saw it.
I didn’t report it.
@previous (K)
lolthis, I’ve had bikes stolen from street tweakers for drug money
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,373
@44,367 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> BAAAWWW I NEED MY WEED BECAUSE THE LIFE IS SO SAD ;_;
So if you lived in a state without medical marijuana, you would abstain because you are a boy scout who has great respect for the law?
> BAAAWWW I NEED MY WEED BECAUSE THE LIFE IS SO SAD ;_;
So if you lived in a state without medical marijuana, you would abstain because you are a boy scout who has great respect for the law?
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,374
@44,366 (The Editor !N9N..Fucks)
> And nobody even knows whether he got any of that crack or not.
The story would be better if AC said that he's the neighborhood crack dealer and these guys were dealing on his turf without his permission.
But normally when this is the case, you send thugs to rough em up. Never do you narc.
@44,367 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> I’m permitted it by the state and have a licensed grower. I am a registered caregiver for legitimate medical reasons, after spending several years and tens of thousands of dollars attempting to find effective treatments. I might project myself as being more into it than I really am.
>
What's it treatment for, asperger's? I don't think you have glaucoma or cancer.
> And nobody even knows whether he got any of that crack or not.
The story would be better if AC said that he's the neighborhood crack dealer and these guys were dealing on his turf without his permission.
But normally when this is the case, you send thugs to rough em up. Never do you narc.
@44,367 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> I’m permitted it by the state and have a licensed grower. I am a registered caregiver for legitimate medical reasons, after spending several years and tens of thousands of dollars attempting to find effective treatments. I might project myself as being more into it than I really am.
>
What's it treatment for, asperger's? I don't think you have glaucoma or cancer.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,376
@44,372 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> lolthis, I’ve had bikes stolen from street tweakers for drug money
What ethnic groups have stolen the bikes?
> lolthis, I’ve had bikes stolen from street tweakers for drug money
What ethnic groups have stolen the bikes?
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,378
@44,374 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
My immediate patient has irritable bowel issues. Another patient of the same grower has chronic pain issues.
But I don’t expect you to believe any of that.
Protip: I don’t have asperger’s
My immediate patient has irritable bowel issues. Another patient of the same grower has chronic pain issues.
But I don’t expect you to believe any of that.
Protip: I don’t have asperger’s
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,380
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,383
@44,373 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
I’m not the patient, bro. I’m a caregiver—I give care.
That typically involves trivial things like cleaning glassware and grinding weed.
I have appropriate treatments for my clinical depression and anxiety issues that my physician and I manage. Marijuana is not an appropriate treatment for depression or anxiety.
What other medical details would you all love to know?
I’m not the patient, bro. I’m a caregiver—I give care.
That typically involves trivial things like cleaning glassware and grinding weed.
I have appropriate treatments for my clinical depression and anxiety issues that my physician and I manage. Marijuana is not an appropriate treatment for depression or anxiety.
What other medical details would you all love to know?
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,384
@44,378 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> My immediate patient has irritable bowel issues.
I've sometimes had that. I just don't eat stuff that gives me diarhea. This should not be treatable by marijuana.
> Another patient of the same grower has chronic pain issues.
Makes sense.
> Protip: I don’t have asperger’s
I didn't doubt people you sold it to had cancer or something. I was wondering what you had that you needed medical marijuana for.
> My immediate patient has irritable bowel issues.
I've sometimes had that. I just don't eat stuff that gives me diarhea. This should not be treatable by marijuana.
> Another patient of the same grower has chronic pain issues.
Makes sense.
> Protip: I don’t have asperger’s
I didn't doubt people you sold it to had cancer or something. I was wondering what you had that you needed medical marijuana for.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,385
@44,378 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
Also, you never answered the question about alcohol. Alcohol cause much human suffering and (literally) more than nine thousand drunk driving deaths a year. It is also dealed openly. So why aren't you crusading against alcohol?
Also, you never answered the question about alcohol. Alcohol cause much human suffering and (literally) more than nine thousand drunk driving deaths a year. It is also dealed openly. So why aren't you crusading against alcohol?
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,389
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,393
@44,384 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
lolololololol, IBS isn’t just diarrhea
lololololol I don’t sell or grow (but I’m permitted to do both)
@44,385 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Oh, okay. Of course I dislike drunk driving. Stop being a faggot.
lolololololol, IBS isn’t just diarrhea
lololololol I don’t sell or grow (but I’m permitted to do both)
@44,385 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Oh, okay. Of course I dislike drunk driving. Stop being a faggot.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,395
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,396
@OP
I approve on the grounds of a drug dealer being stopped, and the fact that it was funny.
Two drug dealers got busted at my college recently. Didn't think it would really happen around these parts, but I guess it gets everywhere, especially the youth.
I approve on the grounds of a drug dealer being stopped, and the fact that it was funny.
Two drug dealers got busted at my college recently. Didn't think it would really happen around these parts, but I guess it gets everywhere, especially the youth.
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,398
@44,389 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
He can get out the message about why alcohol causes so much suffering and encourage it to be prohibited again.
He can get out the message about why alcohol causes so much suffering and encourage it to be prohibited again.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,401
I think meta is mad because he is addicted to crack.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,404
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,405
@previous (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
I still don't understand the hypocrisy:
> smoke weed
> it's my right and I need it because baawww i'm depressed
> see someone selling crack
> OMG CALL THE POLICE DRUGS ARE BAD JUST SAY NO
I still don't understand the hypocrisy:
> smoke weed
> it's my right and I need it because baawww i'm depressed
> see someone selling crack
> OMG CALL THE POLICE DRUGS ARE BAD JUST SAY NO
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,406
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
FYI: I would call the cops too, if anything just to watch for the lulz.
EDIT: But only if they were black.
FYI: I would call the cops too, if anything just to watch for the lulz.
EDIT: But only if they were black.
(Edited 24 seconds later.)
The Editor !N9N..Fucks replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,408
@44,383 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> What other medical details would you all love to know?
Sure you didn't pick up any of that crack?
> What other medical details would you all love to know?
Sure you didn't pick up any of that crack?
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,410
@44,405 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
> it's my right and I need it because baawww i'm depressed
Read the thread, Meta...
He's a caregiver, not a patient.
> it's my right and I need it because baawww i'm depressed
Read the thread, Meta...
He's a caregiver, not a patient.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,411
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,412
@44,405 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
OP never said he did weed (ITT, anyway)
@44,406 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
This!
OP never said he did weed (ITT, anyway)
@44,406 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
This!
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Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,413
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,414
@44,405 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
I am a caregiver. I give care through a permitted and licensed network that has rules to reduce the potentials for abuse and financial gain.
You’re the one who thinks I am a marijuana patient for depression; it’s not an effective treatment for that, or my anxiety. You also trivialize clinical depression, but I’m not asking you to agree with the treatments.
Do you not agree that crack has been effectively linked with a variety of social ills? I understand and dislike the hypocrisy about alcohol
I am a caregiver. I give care through a permitted and licensed network that has rules to reduce the potentials for abuse and financial gain.
You’re the one who thinks I am a marijuana patient for depression; it’s not an effective treatment for that, or my anxiety. You also trivialize clinical depression, but I’m not asking you to agree with the treatments.
Do you not agree that crack has been effectively linked with a variety of social ills? I understand and dislike the hypocrisy about alcohol
AC !tyLmN8C16E double-posted this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #44,416
AC !tyLmN8C16E triple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,418
@44,406 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
They were :3
@44,411 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Infrequently. Recent reasons I havesmoked partaken…
to set up a new pipe
to clear a blockage in a valve on a bong
to set the correct temperature on a vaporizer
to understand what’s different about a strain that’s new to my patient(s)
to understand how edibles behave differently
It’s a decent amount of work. Scrubbing resin off of glass and your hands is not my idea of fun.
They were :3
@44,411 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Infrequently. Recent reasons I have
to set up a new pipe
to clear a blockage in a valve on a bong
to set the correct temperature on a vaporizer
to understand what’s different about a strain that’s new to my patient(s)
to understand how edibles behave differently
It’s a decent amount of work. Scrubbing resin off of glass and your hands is not my idea of fun.
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Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,419
@44,411 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
And where did he ever say he uses it to treat depression...?
Off topic question: AC, have you ever seen the show Portlandia? It plays on IFC and reminds me of you every time I watch it.
And where did he ever say he uses it to treat depression...?
Off topic question: AC, have you ever seen the show Portlandia? It plays on IFC and reminds me of you every time I watch it.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
The Editor !N9N..Fucks replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,421
@OP: question from the crowd, do you accept the charges?
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,422
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,424
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,427
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,429
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,433
@44,414 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> You’re the one who thinks I am a marijuana patient for depression; it’s not an effective treatment for that, or my anxiety. You also trivialize clinical depression, but I’m not asking you to agree with the treatments.
It's
> Do you not agree that crack has been effectively linked with a variety of social ills? I understand and dislike the hypocrisy about alcohol
It has, as has alcohol, and tobacco. But "social ills" don't trump the individuals right to do what they see fit with their body. What right do you have to tell others what they can and cannot do with their own bodies and money? Did the crack on the bus harm you? Crack cocaine has never been legal in this country, yet people still keep on doing it. Is prohibition and locking up crack cocaine users effective at curing these social ills?
> You’re the one who thinks I am a marijuana patient for depression; it’s not an effective treatment for that, or my anxiety. You also trivialize clinical depression, but I’m not asking you to agree with the treatments.
It's
> Do you not agree that crack has been effectively linked with a variety of social ills? I understand and dislike the hypocrisy about alcohol
It has, as has alcohol, and tobacco. But "social ills" don't trump the individuals right to do what they see fit with their body. What right do you have to tell others what they can and cannot do with their own bodies and money? Did the crack on the bus harm you? Crack cocaine has never been legal in this country, yet people still keep on doing it. Is prohibition and locking up crack cocaine users effective at curing these social ills?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,434
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,437
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,442
@44,433 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You're not one of those people who wants all drugs to be legalised are you?
That would fuck society so badly.
You're not one of those people who wants all drugs to be legalised are you?
That would fuck society so badly.
The Editor !N9N..Fucks replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,444
Do you now, or have you ever, driven a Chevrolet movie theater?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,446
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,447
@44,442 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well, there are reasonable uses for them.
The person with chronic pain also has a prescription for drugs that are effectively meth and heroin.
My prescription stabilizes one of the neurotransmitters that meth acts upon.
Well, there are reasonable uses for them.
The person with chronic pain also has a prescription for drugs that are effectively meth and heroin.
My prescription stabilizes one of the neurotransmitters that meth acts upon.
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,450
@44,393 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> lololololol I don’t sell or grow (but I’m permitted to do both)
I again wasn't talking about that. For what reason is it legal for you to get high on pot?
> lololololol I don’t sell or grow (but I’m permitted to do both)
I again wasn't talking about that. For what reason is it legal for you to get high on pot?
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,452
@44,442 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Not quite. In Portugal, all drugs were decriminalized (yes, even crack cocaine, meth, and heroin), and their society isn't exactly collapsing. How many people would do drugs they know to be bad if they were legal? I would imagine most people would decline "hard" drugs even if they were legal. The hardcore users would keep on going, but the laws never stopped them anyway.
Not quite. In Portugal, all drugs were decriminalized (yes, even crack cocaine, meth, and heroin), and their society isn't exactly collapsing. How many people would do drugs they know to be bad if they were legal? I would imagine most people would decline "hard" drugs even if they were legal. The hardcore users would keep on going, but the laws never stopped them anyway.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,454
AC !tyLmN8C16E double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,457
Protip: I’m prohibited from dealing in the open. My actions were not directly hypocritical but, I certainly understand the greater issue of hypocrisy.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,459
@44,452 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
One difference between pot, crack, etc. and a prescription drug besides a patent is that patented pharmaceutical drugs such as painkillers that get you fucked up too well they are pills. They never are second hand smoke. If marijuana, crack, etc. was in a pill, it would be more likely to become legal.
One difference between pot, crack, etc. and a prescription drug besides a patent is that patented pharmaceutical drugs such as painkillers that get you fucked up too well they are pills. They never are second hand smoke. If marijuana, crack, etc. was in a pill, it would be more likely to become legal.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,464
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
marinol. get the fuck out. and coca cola.
marinol. get the fuck out. and coca cola.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,465
@44,446 (F)
Medieval man didn't have the needle though ;)
@44,447 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
If it's for medicinal use, I'd say it's fine. That way it's controlled, and is more of a need than an addiction.
@44,452 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Wow, I never knew that. I suppose that people would-self moderate to a degree, but I'd imagine that usage would increase moreso than it would were it illegal, which would lead to more addicts and thus a weaker society.
You said were so I'm guessing that this isn't the case anymore?
Medieval man didn't have the needle though ;)
@44,447 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
If it's for medicinal use, I'd say it's fine. That way it's controlled, and is more of a need than an addiction.
@44,452 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Wow, I never knew that. I suppose that people would-self moderate to a degree, but I'd imagine that usage would increase moreso than it would were it illegal, which would lead to more addicts and thus a weaker society.
You said were so I'm guessing that this isn't the case anymore?
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Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,467
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Medieval man didn't have a needle though ;)
smoked opium has been known for practically all of human existence.
> Medieval man didn't have a needle though ;)
smoked opium has been known for practically all of human existence.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,468
@44,459 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Tobacco has secondhand smoke (as bad, if not worse than that from marijuana, imo), and it is as legal as anything else. But I agree, pills are much cleaner, safer, and healthier than snorting/smoking/injecting drugs. But how can a "crack pill" industry get started if crack remains illegal?
Tobacco has secondhand smoke (as bad, if not worse than that from marijuana, imo), and it is as legal as anything else. But I agree, pills are much cleaner, safer, and healthier than snorting/smoking/injecting drugs. But how can a "crack pill" industry get started if crack remains illegal?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,470
@44,467 (F)
My point was that drug usage and drugs in general have developed, and become more refined and potent.
My point was that drug usage and drugs in general have developed, and become more refined and potent.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,471
@44,465 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No, they're still decriminalized. I said "were" to indicate that decriminalization was completed in the past and is no longer ongoing (because they're already decriminalized). But think about it, if someone offered you crack, knowing all that you know about how bad it is, etc, would you smoke it?
No, they're still decriminalized. I said "were" to indicate that decriminalization was completed in the past and is no longer ongoing (because they're already decriminalized). But think about it, if someone offered you crack, knowing all that you know about how bad it is, etc, would you smoke it?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,473
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
No. Personally I avoid everythng but alcohol.
And as you said, I know it's bad.
No. Personally I avoid everythng but alcohol.
And as you said, I know it's bad.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,474
@44,470 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
smoked opium is no less destructive than heroin.
contrary to popular belief, smoking is even more instant than IVing. think about it, the blood in your veins goes to your lungs before its recirculated. if anything, smoking is even more instant.
smoked opium is no less destructive than heroin.
contrary to popular belief, smoking is even more instant than IVing. think about it, the blood in your veins goes to your lungs before its recirculated. if anything, smoking is even more instant.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,475
@44,459 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Many patients prefer vaporizers and edibles to smoking, and specifically for health reasons. Your concerns over secondhand smoke are almost moot, but I do agree with your opinion.
Many patients prefer vaporizers and edibles to smoking, and specifically for health reasons. Your concerns over secondhand smoke are almost moot, but I do agree with your opinion.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,478
@44,464 (F)
> marinol. get the fuck out. and coca cola.
Like I said about second hand smoke encouraging things to be illegal.
coco cola was drank not smoked
Marinal is just a chemical in marijuana. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinol doesn't say how the synthetic version is taken.
What I'm saying is if a drug you take has the effect of getting people near you high on it, then it tends to make it illegal. Sure some illegal drugs aren't smoked, but what if everyone who took painkillers had to smoke it and get everyone near them loopy, and then the smoke residue lingers like asbestos so months later you breathe that smoke reside in and it gets them loopy again?
> marinol. get the fuck out. and coca cola.
Like I said about second hand smoke encouraging things to be illegal.
coco cola was drank not smoked
Marinal is just a chemical in marijuana. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinol doesn't say how the synthetic version is taken.
What I'm saying is if a drug you take has the effect of getting people near you high on it, then it tends to make it illegal. Sure some illegal drugs aren't smoked, but what if everyone who took painkillers had to smoke it and get everyone near them loopy, and then the smoke residue lingers like asbestos so months later you breathe that smoke reside in and it gets them loopy again?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,479
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> If marijuana, crack, etc. was in a pill, it would be more likely to become legal.
that's what I was replying to. marinol is a pill...
> If marijuana, crack, etc. was in a pill, it would be more likely to become legal.
that's what I was replying to. marinol is a pill...
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,480
@44,475 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
I really think if they made marijuana in a little pill in a childproof cap that you get from the pharmacy, it'd be so much easier to get that made legal than the traditional forms stoners take it in.
I really think if they made marijuana in a little pill in a childproof cap that you get from the pharmacy, it'd be so much easier to get that made legal than the traditional forms stoners take it in.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,481
@44,474 (F)
True enough. But my point is that drugs are more varied, refined and widespread now. Being the modern civilisation, we have modern drugs.
True enough. But my point is that drugs are more varied, refined and widespread now. Being the modern civilisation, we have modern drugs.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,483
@44,479 (F)
> marinol is a pill...
I don't have info about that. The article did sound like people were debating it and opting to make it legal medically.
> marinol is a pill...
I don't have info about that. The article did sound like people were debating it and opting to make it legal medically.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,486
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
derp
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&q=marinol&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g5g-s2g3&aql=&oq=
derp
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&q=marinol&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g5g-s2g3&aql=&oq=
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,487
@44,474 (F)
> contrary to popular belief, smoking is even more instant than IVing. think about it, the blood in your veins goes to your lungs before its recirculated. if anything, smoking is even more instant.
Hmm... how very breatharian.
> contrary to popular belief, smoking is even more instant than IVing. think about it, the blood in your veins goes to your lungs before its recirculated. if anything, smoking is even more instant.
Hmm... how very breatharian.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,491
@44,473 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> No. Personally I avoid everythng but alcohol.
>
> And as you said, I know it's bad.
Exactly. And almost everyone else knows it's bad. Seeing a toothless, starving homeless man sucking dick in an alley fiending for crack is probably a more effective anti-drug message than all the DARE/"just say no" propaganda in the world.
> No. Personally I avoid everythng but alcohol.
>
> And as you said, I know it's bad.
Exactly. And almost everyone else knows it's bad. Seeing a toothless, starving homeless man sucking dick in an alley fiending for crack is probably a more effective anti-drug message than all the DARE/"just say no" propaganda in the world.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,495
Improves Apetite!AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,496
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,501
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,505
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,506
I just ingested some marijuana, you guise.
Baking a cake; had to check the flavor balance.
Baking a cake; had to check the flavor balance.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,508
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,510
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,512
@44,506 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
oh lol it's fine for you to enjoy drugs, but if someone ingests something you don't approve of, they must be jailed.
oh lol it's fine for you to enjoy drugs, but if someone ingests something you don't approve of, they must be jailed.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,513
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,514
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,517
@44,512 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)> oh lol it's fine for you to enjoy drugs, but if someone ingests something you don't approve of, they must be jailed.
You guys know Mickey on this forum? One of his children get sick from marijuana. He doesn't like to talk about it but it was on the news
http://www.ktvu.com/news/27037908/detail.html
http://www.timesheraldonline.com/news/ci_17539423
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_17510955
http://www.timesheraldonline.com/ci_17511678
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,520
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Almost sounds like what happened to my brother. He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes.
Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes.
When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.
Almost sounds like what happened to my brother. He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes.
Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes.
When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,524
@previous (F)
And people say "I researched marijuana and it's impossible to overdose on THC." One guy (retired cop Gary/Barry Cooper?) says if the cops pull you over, swallowing your pot is the best way to get rid of it because they claim it's impossible to overdose on THC.
And people say "I researched marijuana and it's impossible to overdose on THC." One guy (retired cop Gary/Barry Cooper?) says if the cops pull you over, swallowing your pot is the best way to get rid of it because they claim it's impossible to overdose on THC.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,534
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,535
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,536
@44,491 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
You'd think so, but we have that same image of drug users now and many people still turn to drugs. Fully legalised, people could, and would, do so in far greater numbers, meaning more addicts.
But as you've said, there's a working country with full legalisation. I wonder how much, or even if this strains their system?
You'd think so, but we have that same image of drug users now and many people still turn to drugs. Fully legalised, people could, and would, do so in far greater numbers, meaning more addicts.
But as you've said, there's a working country with full legalisation. I wonder how much, or even if this strains their system?
!tyLmN8C16E (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,537
103 GET
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,539
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #44,540
@44,536 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I doubt it. The people who want drugs will (and do) obtain them, regardless of what the law says. The people who don't, wont. OP is probably masturbating furiously to an episode of COPS right now (a sort of reality TV show where a camera crew follows police around as they do police stuff like arrest people) and contemplating what he can do to get more crack users locked up.
I doubt it. The people who want drugs will (and do) obtain them, regardless of what the law says. The people who don't, wont. OP is probably masturbating furiously to an episode of COPS right now (a sort of reality TV show where a camera crew follows police around as they do police stuff like arrest people) and contemplating what he can do to get more crack users locked up.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,544
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
There is a middle ground of people who don't go out of their way to get into drugs, but fall into them, which full legalisation would make easier to do. For example, they might be offered smne by a friend and this would be far more common and easier to do in an all-legalised country.
There is a middle ground of people who don't go out of their way to get into drugs, but fall into them, which full legalisation would make easier to do. For example, they might be offered smne by a friend and this would be far more common and easier to do in an all-legalised country.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,545
!tyLmN8C16E (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,546
@44,540 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
lol 9/10 bud
I take issue with dealers, not users.
lol 9/10 bud
I take issue with dealers, not users.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,547
@44,545 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Of course it does, but fully legalised would make it far easier and simpler to do.
People who wouldn't have tried anything before might then decide that they might as well try.
Of course it does, but fully legalised would make it far easier and simpler to do.
People who wouldn't have tried anything before might then decide that they might as well try.
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Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,549
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,551
Doctors don't like people taking ritalin or other prescription drugs for recreational use like some people do.
!tyLmN8C16E (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,554
@44,549 (F)
Nah, I support licensed professionals who are in a position to provide responsible advice and guidance.
Nah, I support licensed professionals who are in a position to provide responsible advice and guidance.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,560
@44,547 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I seriously doubt they would. There seem to be people who enjoy drugs and people who don't. Hard drugs have limited appeal because people know they are bad. Everyone has the right as a human to do what they wish to their bodies. As long as they don't interfere with the lives of others, smoking crack (or any other substance) should be allowed for anyone who desires it.
I seriously doubt they would. There seem to be people who enjoy drugs and people who don't. Hard drugs have limited appeal because people know they are bad. Everyone has the right as a human to do what they wish to their bodies. As long as they don't interfere with the lives of others, smoking crack (or any other substance) should be allowed for anyone who desires it.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,654
My two cents: 1) marinol is a pill and is not convenient to sufferers who smoke pot because a) people who are afflicted by serious illnesses such as AIDS are prone to vomitting so oral ingestion is practically worthless b) you need a large dosage of marinol pills to induce the same kind of effects that smoking pot offers. synthetic thcs not a toy bud. 2) Does being a caregiver give you license to smoke it yourself for recreation? If the answer is no, and it's not for any sort of health benefit, then you're just backhandedly exploiting laws given to you. I think hypocrisy is ugly in America but it's not any sort of convenient way to say 'well it's legal now so that doesn't make it bad.' If you retroactively applied that to any other sort of narcotic, anyone who's lived before 1920 could probably make the same strawman argument about other narcotics. Just because the law dictates they're bad or not bad, and how they are regulated, doesn't change the fact that people who do them isn't cause for concern.
Anonymous N double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,662
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Thanks for that quality response, Eels.
Thanks for that quality response, Eels.
Anonymous N triple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,670
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Okay, well that makes more sense (being totally serious). Sorry for sounding like a prick to you in the previous post.
Okay, well that makes more sense (being totally serious). Sorry for sounding like a prick to you in the previous post.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,671
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Where's your medical degree from?
Where's your medical degree from?
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #44,675
AC called the cops on some geologists.
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,926
This thread is full of stupid ;(
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,930
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,933
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Mostly everyone but AC lol
Mostly Meta.
Mostly everyone but AC lol
Mostly Meta.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,934
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Okay.
Okay.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,936
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,939
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,943
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,944
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,945
@previous (Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
Turning those people in will not make them stop being addicts. You have to address the root of the problem, not each individual.
Turning those people in will not make them stop being addicts. You have to address the root of the problem, not each individual.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,947
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,955
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We'll space dock in prison. He'll be my bitch.
We'll space dock in prison. He'll be my bitch.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,957
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,961
errybody mad
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,970
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lol
lol
dreamworks4mayor '11 !xPoNIEsltA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,974
to long
did not roed
did not roed
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,978
@previous (dreamworks4mayor '11 !xPoNIEsltA)
This post is too long for you to read? That's just sad.
This post is too long for you to read? That's just sad.
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,979
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oh gosh
harsh
oh gosh
harsh
dreamworks4mayor '11 !xPoNIEsltA replied with this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,980
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,981
@45,978 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> 143 replies
I wouldn't read that much shit on Minichan if I hadn't read it earlier either.
> 143 replies
I wouldn't read that much shit on Minichan if I hadn't read it earlier either.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,982
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,985
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,986
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I'm still on ac's side
I'm still on ac's side
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,991
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,996
So some dude gets jailed because AC decides to be a hero on the bus. Whoop-de-fuckin-doo. Can't change what's already happened.
But hey, let's defend the crack guy on the internet and call AC a prick while we're at it.
That'll sure make a difference.
But hey, let's defend the crack guy on the internet and call AC a prick while we're at it.
That'll sure make a difference.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #45,997
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,002
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Okay, and?
Okay, and?
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,005
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,007
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I don't really give a shit whether people do crack or not. They shouldn't blatantly deal on a bus. That speaks to a lack of respect for anyone around them, and it degrades a sense of community or safety. If we're tossing around socio/psychological babble here, it's a violation of the social contract at a really basic level.
I probably would have ignored it out of fear. I have no problem with AC doing otherwise, though, and actually find it rather commendable that he did something about it.
Can someone please tell me what's so great about crack deals on public transportation? Leave the Ron Paul bullshit about people's rights to their bodies out of it -- that's tangential. This is a crack deal in public. That has consequences to the community.
I don't really give a shit whether people do crack or not. They shouldn't blatantly deal on a bus. That speaks to a lack of respect for anyone around them, and it degrades a sense of community or safety. If we're tossing around socio/psychological babble here, it's a violation of the social contract at a really basic level.
I probably would have ignored it out of fear. I have no problem with AC doing otherwise, though, and actually find it rather commendable that he did something about it.
Can someone please tell me what's so great about crack deals on public transportation? Leave the Ron Paul bullshit about people's rights to their bodies out of it -- that's tangential. This is a crack deal in public. That has consequences to the community.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,011
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,014
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Why say anything? Arguing on some obscure internet BBS will surely make AC change his mind about dealers, will surely get that guy out of jail, and will surely make everywhere a better place for everyone.
Why say anything? Arguing on some obscure internet BBS will surely make AC change his mind about dealers, will surely get that guy out of jail, and will surely make everywhere a better place for everyone.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,015
RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,017
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,022
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It degrades a community's sense of safety, security, adherence to basic norms -- the really important intangibles that make people happy to live where they do. Every time behavior like this is seen and allowed, it encourages others to do the same. More crime. Loss of home value. Etc. etc. I am actually really shocked that anyone would defend someone's "right" to deal drugs in public.
@46,011 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
IMO, much less harm is done if they deal drugs in a more private setting. It shows a blatant lack of respect to do that on public transportation, where others are forced to sit near you.
It degrades a community's sense of safety, security, adherence to basic norms -- the really important intangibles that make people happy to live where they do. Every time behavior like this is seen and allowed, it encourages others to do the same. More crime. Loss of home value. Etc. etc. I am actually really shocked that anyone would defend someone's "right" to deal drugs in public.
@46,011 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
IMO, much less harm is done if they deal drugs in a more private setting. It shows a blatant lack of respect to do that on public transportation, where others are forced to sit near you.
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RedFox !rFox/iQSaQ replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,024
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Right-o. Carry on, then.
Right-o. Carry on, then.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,025
@46,022 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Explain how less harm is caused by dealing in private.
Explain how less harm is caused by dealing in private.
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Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,030
@46,007 (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
They don't care about the community. They think crack is a-okay and should be allowed to be sold in front of your home, at your child's favorite park, on the bus, or even in your church during service. It's fine, because they won't learn anything anyway. And if you were poor, you'd probably be selling crack too, right? Because every poor person is a crack dealer. Statistics prove it.
They don't care about the community. They think crack is a-okay and should be allowed to be sold in front of your home, at your child's favorite park, on the bus, or even in your church during service. It's fine, because they won't learn anything anyway. And if you were poor, you'd probably be selling crack too, right? Because every poor person is a crack dealer. Statistics prove it.
é¾ !cP2gi3jKX2 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,033
OP is a thoughtless authoritarian Borg.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,035
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,041
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My mother is an alcoholic and beats me when she's drunk. That's not a problem for me? Shame on you, eels.
Also, marijuana /= crack
gay
My mother is an alcoholic and beats me when she's drunk. That's not a problem for me? Shame on you, eels.
Also, marijuana /= crack
gay
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk double-posted this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,042
@46,035 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
You're pulling this shit too? This isn't weed or alcohol. It's crack. dumb dumb gay stop being gay
You're pulling this shit too? This isn't weed or alcohol. It's crack. dumb dumb gay stop being gay
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,043
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,044
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,048
@46,042 (Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
She's saying that it shouldn't be done in public because it's illegal, so is marijuana. Also, alcohol causes more death than crack.
She's saying that it shouldn't be done in public because it's illegal, so is marijuana. Also, alcohol causes more death than crack.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,050
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,057
@46,048 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I didn't say people shouldn't deal pot in public either. They shouldn't.
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And?
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
No. ofc not
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I lied, but you got my point, right?
I didn't say people shouldn't deal pot in public either. They shouldn't.
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And?
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
No. ofc not
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I lied, but you got my point, right?
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,060
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So, the problem is that it happened in public, not the actual substance?
So, the problem is that it happened in public, not the actual substance?
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,068
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those are legal
call the cops when you see someone 2 drunk in public maybe they will take him home
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
It's both. We're talking about crack.
those are legal
call the cops when you see someone 2 drunk in public maybe they will take him home
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
It's both. We're talking about crack.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,070
@46,025 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Only the people who actually want to participate in the transaction have to do so. Rather than multiple bystanders being brought into a transaction which they disagree with, but keep silent about out of fear.
This is actually one of the main differences between a community that people want to live in, versus one they flee from (for lack of a better term, "ghettos"). In a healthy community with a high level of buy-in to the basic social contract (about how people interact with one another), there is a great deal of trust in how others will behave; you go to work to get money, pay for the things you need, use influence rather than violence to persuade others to behave in a way that's agreeable to you.
In a community where that contract is regularly flouted, and others have to witness depraved acts on a regular basis, there is little trust in how others will behave. That instability has a high cost to people. People simply can't live like that and stay psychologically healthy. There is a REASON people don't want to go live in ghettos where others are expected to witness crime & go along with it -- and it's not just that we're brainwashed prudes who want to control others.
I'm actually quite surprised that Eels, with his background in social psychology, doesn't recognize what crack deals in public actually do to a community.
Only the people who actually want to participate in the transaction have to do so. Rather than multiple bystanders being brought into a transaction which they disagree with, but keep silent about out of fear.
This is actually one of the main differences between a community that people want to live in, versus one they flee from (for lack of a better term, "ghettos"). In a healthy community with a high level of buy-in to the basic social contract (about how people interact with one another), there is a great deal of trust in how others will behave; you go to work to get money, pay for the things you need, use influence rather than violence to persuade others to behave in a way that's agreeable to you.
In a community where that contract is regularly flouted, and others have to witness depraved acts on a regular basis, there is little trust in how others will behave. That instability has a high cost to people. People simply can't live like that and stay psychologically healthy. There is a REASON people don't want to go live in ghettos where others are expected to witness crime & go along with it -- and it's not just that we're brainwashed prudes who want to control others.
I'm actually quite surprised that Eels, with his background in social psychology, doesn't recognize what crack deals in public actually do to a community.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,073
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
A crack deal isn't a depraved act. Also, in richer communities, people have a higher rate of addiction to prescription drugs.
A crack deal isn't a depraved act. Also, in richer communities, people have a higher rate of addiction to prescription drugs.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,077
@46,030 (Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk)
> Because every poor person is a crack dealer. Statistics prove it.
Depressionman?
> Because every poor person is a crack dealer. Statistics prove it.
Depressionman?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,089
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Change happens of course. But that's not really the topic here, is it?
Change happens of course. But that's not really the topic here, is it?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,091
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No, but I can certainly point to a thing's criminal status as evidence of what society thinks of it.
No, but I can certainly point to a thing's criminal status as evidence of what society thinks of it.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w triple-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,102
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The answer is not, though, to simply decriminalize and ignore it all. Or would you honestly suggest society has no interest in legislating any behaviors at all?
You seem to be attempting to use some of these concepts to delegitimize the real harm that is associated with the illegal drug trade today. Regardless of where the harm comes from, I can assure you there's a cost to people dealing crack in public. Or would you say otherwise?
The answer is not, though, to simply decriminalize and ignore it all. Or would you honestly suggest society has no interest in legislating any behaviors at all?
You seem to be attempting to use some of these concepts to delegitimize the real harm that is associated with the illegal drug trade today. Regardless of where the harm comes from, I can assure you there's a cost to people dealing crack in public. Or would you say otherwise?
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w quadruple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,112
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Okay.
Legal status is a proxy for society's judgment of a behavior. It's not meaningless.
Okay.
Legal status is a proxy for society's judgment of a behavior. It's not meaningless.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,116
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
Gay marriage and Marijuana are illegal. Mixed racial marriages also used to be.
Gay marriage and Marijuana are illegal. Mixed racial marriages also used to be.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,121
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I never said it's completely logical. But it tells us something about what a society generally believes. When values shift, the laws follow.
I never said it's completely logical. But it tells us something about what a society generally believes. When values shift, the laws follow.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w double-posted this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,122
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Do you think legislators are in the habit of making decisions that will cause them not to be re-elected?
Do you think legislators are in the habit of making decisions that will cause them not to be re-elected?
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,130
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,131
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I agree completely.
I agree completely.
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,135
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Oh, are you referring to the disparity in sentencing for crack vs. cocaine?
Oh, are you referring to the disparity in sentencing for crack vs. cocaine?
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,169
@46,116 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)> Gay marriage and Marijuana are illegal. Mixed racial marriages also used to be.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,173
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I think there was a UN convention on the drug trade in the earlier half of the 20th century. Was that when most of the well-known and currently-illegal drugs were made illegal?
I think there was a UN convention on the drug trade in the earlier half of the 20th century. Was that when most of the well-known and currently-illegal drugs were made illegal?
AC !tyLmN8C16E double-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #46,195
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I think many people here are welcoming to the discussion or debate, but not in the angry/forceful manner with which you were yelling at me.
I think many people here are welcoming to the discussion or debate, but not in the angry/forceful manner with which you were yelling at me.
AC !tyLmN8C16E triple-posted this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,292
Protip: in Portland proper, there are no school buses. All kids can get low-cost annual transit passes.
My bus route goes past three high schools and a popular children’s museum. It’s not unusual for my morning bus to have ~15 kids on it.
My bus route goes past three high schools and a popular children’s museum. It’s not unusual for my morning bus to have ~15 kids on it.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,298
@previous (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
Annoying kids on a bus are 100x worse than crack deals on a bus. People doing crack deals don't throw spit balls at you for instance.
Annoying kids on a bus are 100x worse than crack deals on a bus. People doing crack deals don't throw spit balls at you for instance.
Ninjj !XUTpieWBpk replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,372
@46,292 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
They don't care. IT'S NOT DIRECTLY HARMING THE KIDS, IS IT? HEY, THEY SELL ALCOHOL IN STORES
CRACK MUST BE OKAY TO SELL ON BUSES! LET'S TURN ALL BUSES INTO CRACK DISPENSARIES
They don't care. IT'S NOT DIRECTLY HARMING THE KIDS, IS IT? HEY, THEY SELL ALCOHOL IN STORES
CRACK MUST BE OKAY TO SELL ON BUSES! LET'S TURN ALL BUSES INTO CRACK DISPENSARIES
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,391
There is nothing wrong with reporting a crack deal like this.
If I saw someone dealing crack on my train or on my way to work, I might report it. It creates a dangerous situation. I should not be subjected to it.
I see nothing wrong with this. If people are doing something like a drug deal in public and it makes you uncomfortable, you have every right to report it to police.
Drug deals, especially involving things like crack, can quickly become dangerous.
I don't agree that possession should be a crime. It helps no one. Not even society. I have mixed feelings about selling. I'm not saying I think it should be legal, but addicts selling to support their habit are still victims in need of help. It's always better to save someone than to lock then up.
That said, you shouldn't ever have to feel threatened or uncomfortable from these things. It wasn't some innocent mistake. It was blatant and I'm sure many others noticed and felt scared or uncomfortable.
It wasn't some guy smoking a blunt on the corner. It was a fucking obvious crack deal in public.
It creates a dangerous situation.
If I saw someone dealing crack on my train or on my way to work, I might report it. It creates a dangerous situation. I should not be subjected to it.
I see nothing wrong with this. If people are doing something like a drug deal in public and it makes you uncomfortable, you have every right to report it to police.
Drug deals, especially involving things like crack, can quickly become dangerous.
I don't agree that possession should be a crime. It helps no one. Not even society. I have mixed feelings about selling. I'm not saying I think it should be legal, but addicts selling to support their habit are still victims in need of help. It's always better to save someone than to lock then up.
That said, you shouldn't ever have to feel threatened or uncomfortable from these things. It wasn't some innocent mistake. It was blatant and I'm sure many others noticed and felt scared or uncomfortable.
It wasn't some guy smoking a blunt on the corner. It was a fucking obvious crack deal in public.
It creates a dangerous situation.
AC !tyLmN8C16E replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,418
AC !tyLmN8C16E double-posted this 15 years ago, 10 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,674
By the way, Eels, I do entirely agree with you that prison is awful for people, drug criminalization is fucked, and that there are better ways to deal with deviance.
Ash Ketchup !iC5Sra0Wb2 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,701
OP's gonna get fucked up when the crack dealer gets out of prison.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #46,905
@46,674 (AC !tyLmN8C16E)
> By the way, Eels, I do entirely agree with you that prison is awful for people, drug criminalization is fucked, and that there are better ways to deal with deviance.
This
http://www.electricretard.com/zombies/
> By the way, Eels, I do entirely agree with you that prison is awful for people, drug criminalization is fucked, and that there are better ways to deal with deviance.
This
http://www.electricretard.com/zombies/