Topic: Are you an anti-nationalist?
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #23,746
Do you believe nation-states are evil? Do you believe desiring to live among your own nation is immoral?
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes, I am an anti-nationalist, and hold the above to be evil and immoral. | 2 | 29% | |
| No. While I am not a nationalist, I don't hold it to be an intrinsic moral evil. | 4 | 57% | |
| I am, in fact, a nationalist, and desire that that my nation obtain self-determination. | 1 | 14% |
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 46 minutes later[^] [v] #370,332
I am a white nationalist.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #370,339
> walter
> opinion
> opinion
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #370,340
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,682
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,685
FAO: Anti-nationalists
Please explain your position. It sounds awfully intolerant.
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,708
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,798
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,828
Right, because nationalism has a great track record.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,829
Can someone explain this to me? I dont understand the concept.
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,861
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@previous (( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
People already have a tendency to reside in communities mostly populated by their ethnicity. What more do you want?
People already have a tendency to reside in communities mostly populated by their ethnicity. What more do you want?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,891
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,892
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@370,828 (F)
Don't studies show the more separation between nations the better? I mean living separately, not cutting off trade. Most "ethnic" conflicts have been because there are two nations struggling for control of the one state.
Don't studies show the more separation between nations the better? I mean living separately, not cutting off trade. Most "ethnic" conflicts have been because there are two nations struggling for control of the one state.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,894
Is Nationalism just patriotism?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,895
@370,829 (G)
The idea that nations should have self-determination. The idea that nations have interests that are different to the interests of other nations, and so to the benefit of all they should have separate states where they can express their cultural traditions.
The idea that nations should have self-determination. The idea that nations have interests that are different to the interests of other nations, and so to the benefit of all they should have separate states where they can express their cultural traditions.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,896
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Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,901
@370,895 (A)
Separate states? I don't believe in that because any one single state could not defend themselves, against attack by another country. The states are stronger as a group. Also, when one country just cares about its own interests, their actions could really hurt, less powerful countries.
Separate states? I don't believe in that because any one single state could not defend themselves, against attack by another country. The states are stronger as a group. Also, when one country just cares about its own interests, their actions could really hurt, less powerful countries.
Anonymous G double-posted this 14 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,902
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,908
Is this MAtt? Your comma usage is atrocious.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #370,910
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doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 14 years ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,049
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 50 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,054
@previous (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
"If you want to live with other people who look like you, speak your language, and share your culture, you are evil and immoral."
That sounds intolerant to me.
"If you want to live with other people who look like you, speak your language, and share your culture, you are evil and immoral."
That sounds intolerant to me.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,057
@previous (A)
False dichotomy. People dislike nationalism's intolerance of other races and nationalities.
False dichotomy. People dislike nationalism's intolerance of other races and nationalities.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,059
@previous (F)
So unless people like what you like (other races and nationalities), they are evil and immoral?
So unless people like what you like (other races and nationalities), they are evil and immoral?
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,063
@previous (A)
False dichotomy. I never made that claim, you are making that claim. I never even said that I like other raced and nationalities, just that I don't hate them. You are putting words into people's mouths.
False dichotomy. I never made that claim, you are making that claim. I never even said that I like other raced and nationalities, just that I don't hate them. You are putting words into people's mouths.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,119
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,238
@previous (A)
False dichotomy. Does history show us nationalists politely turning away foreigners and gently encouraging them to return to their home countries?
False dichotomy. Does history show us nationalists politely turning away foreigners and gently encouraging them to return to their home countries?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,297
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,300
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,313
@371,297 (A)
Compelling argument. You countered all of my points and put forward several good points of your own.
Compelling argument. You countered all of my points and put forward several good points of your own.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,320
@previous (F)
But I did. It's not a false dichotomy, and obviously not. I don't waste my time with unserious fraud arguments.
But I did. It's not a false dichotomy, and obviously not. I don't waste my time with unserious fraud arguments.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,322
@previous (A)
Compelling argument. You rebutted my points once again and completely looked like you actually had an answer to my points.
Compelling argument. You rebutted my points once again and completely looked like you actually had an answer to my points.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,326
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,331
@previous (A)
You really don't have an answer to my point in @371,238 (F) do you?
I expected better from you. Now either think of a legitimate counter-point or admit that nationalism is a shitty ideology that has failed time and time again.
You really don't have an answer to my point in @371,238 (F) do you?
I expected better from you. Now either think of a legitimate counter-point or admit that nationalism is a shitty ideology that has failed time and time again.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,333
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,336
@previous (A)
Right, I've attacked the people who practiced it. Clearly that's completely inrelated.
And I like how you're not even trying to deny that it leads to racial violence. Thanks for agreeing with me on that.
Right, I've attacked the people who practiced it. Clearly that's completely inrelated.
And I like how you're not even trying to deny that it leads to racial violence. Thanks for agreeing with me on that.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 40 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #371,344
@previous (F)
It actually is. It's not enough to say I met a Trotskyist once and he was unpleasant; therefore Trostkyism is immoral and evil.
I do deny that. I think racial violence is caused by different races inhabiting the same areas.
It actually is. It's not enough to say I met a Trotskyist once and he was unpleasant; therefore Trostkyism is immoral and evil.
I do deny that. I think racial violence is caused by different races inhabiting the same areas.