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Topic: Germany considers banning bestiality

Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #23,735

Germany's ruling coalition is calling for a ban on bestiality - or the practice of having sex with animals.

The German parliament's agriculture committee is considering making it an offence not only to hurt an animal but also to force it into unnatural sex. Offenders could face a hefty fine.

A final vote will be held in the Bundestag (lower house) on 14 December.

Germany legalised bestiality (zoophilia) in 1969, except when the animal suffered "significant harm".

But animal rights groups have campaigned for a change in the law and Hans-Michael Goldmann, the head of the parliamentary committee investigating the new amendment, told the Tageszeitung newspaper that the new legislation was intended to clarify the current legal position.

"With this explicit ban, it will be easier to impose penalties and to improve animal protection."

A fine of up to 25,000 euros (£20,000) is proposed if someone forces an animal to commit "actions alien to the species".

But Michael Kiok, the chairman of the pressure group Zoophile Engagement for Tolerance and Information (Zeta), said he was going to take legal action to fight the proposed changes.

"It is unthinkable that any sexual act with an animal is punished without proof that the animal has come to any harm," he said, adding that animals are capable of showing what they do, or do not, want to do.

"We see animals as partners and not as a means of gratification. We don't force them to do anything. Animals are much easier to understand than women," Mr Kiok claimed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20523950

(Edited 6 minutes later.)

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 25 minutes later[^] [v] #370,242

I didn't know it was legal in Germany. o_O

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,243

@previous (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
You'd better get over there quick! Before it's banned!

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 13 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,244

@370,242 (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
According to the article it's also legal in Belgium, Denmark and Sweden.

Also apparently legal in Cambodia, Hungary, Brazil, and Mexico.

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,251

@370,243 (C)
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@previous (A)
Meh, it's legal in certain states too. I think Washington is one of them.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,252

@previous (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
Are there no federal laws concerning bestiality?

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,253

@previous (A)
Not too sure.

squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,254

> "It is unthinkable that any sexual act with an animal is punished without proof that the animal has come to any harm," he said, adding that animals are capable of showing what they do, or do not, want to do.

> "We see animals as partners and not as a means of gratification. We don't force them to do anything. Animals are much easier to understand than women," Mr Kiok claimed.

Hey. It sounds like they just copied NAMBLA's website.

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #370,256

@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)

Yeah, zoophiles have the same irritating persecution complex.

Wikipedia joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 10 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #370,382

As of 2012, having sex with animals is illegal in 37 U.S. states. Most of the individual anti-zoosexual state laws were created recently (between 1999 and 2012).[71] Until 2005, there was a farm near Enumclaw, Washington that was described as an “animal brothel”, where people paid to have sex with animals. After an incident on 2 July 2005, when a man was pronounced dead in the emergency room of the Enumclaw community hospital after his colon ruptured due to having been sodomized by a horse, the farm garnered police attention. The state legislature of the State of Washington, which had been one of the few states in the United States without a law against bestiality, within six months passed a bill making bestiality illegal.[72][73]
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