Topic: FAO: squeegee are you going to leave US? ...Will secession succeed
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #23,456
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/13/petitions-seeking-white-house-approval-to-secede-now-come-from-47-states/http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Secession-petitions-grow-but-without-legal-weight-4034008.php
A petition from an Arlington, Texas man, .. launched Nov. 9 via the Obama White House website’s “We the People†tool, had more than 58,000 signatures. That’s more than twice the 25,000 it had Monday morning, a number required to trigger an automatic White House review, according to the administration’s own published rules. (RELATED: Texas petition reaches 25,000 signatures, triggering White House review)
A similar petition from a Louisiana native crossed the 25,000 threshold as Monday drew to a close on the East Coast.
Launched Nov. 7, the day after Obama won re-election, the Pelican State’s spark set off an Internet-driven cascade of disaffected tea partiers and other conservatives looking — as one petition organizer told The Daily Caller via a “direct message†on Twitter — “just to do something, anything, to show we’re not going away quietly.â€
It’s not clear whether, or to what extent, individuals are signing more than one petition. The White House’s online rules do not prohibit Americans from signing a petition that would not affect states where they live.
The complete list of states with open petitions includes Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Nine states’ “We the People†entries include multiple competing petitions, The Daily Caller determined. California, Georgia, Missouri, New York, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Wisconsin are each represented by at least two petitions. TheDC was able to locate three for Pennsylvania.
The only three states that lack secession petitions are Maine, Vermont and Washington. (RELATED: White House website deluged with secession petitions)
According to the White House, petitions have 30 days to gather 25,000 signatures before the administration will automatically review them. One at least one occasion, however, President Obama responded to a petition that collected only 12,240 signatures: a request for the White House’s beer recipe..
A similar petition from a Louisiana native crossed the 25,000 threshold as Monday drew to a close on the East Coast.
Launched Nov. 7, the day after Obama won re-election, the Pelican State’s spark set off an Internet-driven cascade of disaffected tea partiers and other conservatives looking — as one petition organizer told The Daily Caller via a “direct message†on Twitter — “just to do something, anything, to show we’re not going away quietly.â€
It’s not clear whether, or to what extent, individuals are signing more than one petition. The White House’s online rules do not prohibit Americans from signing a petition that would not affect states where they live.
The complete list of states with open petitions includes Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
Nine states’ “We the People†entries include multiple competing petitions, The Daily Caller determined. California, Georgia, Missouri, New York, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Wisconsin are each represented by at least two petitions. TheDC was able to locate three for Pennsylvania.
The only three states that lack secession petitions are Maine, Vermont and Washington. (RELATED: White House website deluged with secession petitions)
According to the White House, petitions have 30 days to gather 25,000 signatures before the administration will automatically review them. One at least one occasion, however, President Obama responded to a petition that collected only 12,240 signatures: a request for the White House’s beer recipe..
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 24 minutes later[^] [v] #366,653
Ununited States of 'Murika!
Cathy !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #366,655
California has a petition for secession?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #366,656
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #366,659
@366,655 (Cathy !TGirlYJKXM)http://www.examiner.com/article/california-secession-petition-has-10-000-signatures
And no Sentient persona gives a flying fuck.
Cathy !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,663
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,664
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,666
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,707
No, people around here have been talking about doing this for as long as i can remember. Trouble is there's just too much federal money coming in to justify leaving. What would we gain? Self respect. What do we lose? A billion dollars (or Buckaroos as we'd call them once we start printing our own) and i just don't see Rick Perry turning any of that money down.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 56 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,719
I love how the headline talks as if just squeegee is leaving. A one-man secession.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,723
If Texas were to succeed, could Mexico invade?
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,724
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,725
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,726
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,727
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
What, like millions of hand guns, rifles and people eager to shoot mexicans?
What, like millions of hand guns, rifles and people eager to shoot mexicans?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,728
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Oh, would Texas be able to successfully fight off Mexico by themselves? Which place has more people?
Oh, would Texas be able to successfully fight off Mexico by themselves? Which place has more people?
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 40 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,729
Texas is the kind of place an invading army thinks twice about. Also lol the mexican army. Should we also worry abour their space program?
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,730
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Most the Mexican army is probably still using muskets. You'd be completely fine.
Most the Mexican army is probably still using muskets. You'd be completely fine.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,733
@366,729 (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Would it have to be an army, or would average citizens be involved? Is the population of Mexico larger than Texas?
Would it have to be an army, or would average citizens be involved? Is the population of Mexico larger than Texas?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,735
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,739
@366,733 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Probably. You may be right, if texas seceeds then we should probably premptively strike mexico and annex them before they get any crazy ideas.
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Yes, yankees have been invading us for years and buying up all the sweet retirement properties.
Probably. You may be right, if texas seceeds then we should probably premptively strike mexico and annex them before they get any crazy ideas.
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Yes, yankees have been invading us for years and buying up all the sweet retirement properties.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,741
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
If Texas were to succeed, and than attack Mexico wouldn't all of Mexico's allies have to step in and fight Texas? Wouldnt that mean that the US would need to attack Texas? How would that go? lol
Also, has Texas ever been actually invaded, or have any of the other states been invaded?
If Texas were to succeed, and than attack Mexico wouldn't all of Mexico's allies have to step in and fight Texas? Wouldnt that mean that the US would need to attack Texas? How would that go? lol
Also, has Texas ever been actually invaded, or have any of the other states been invaded?
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buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,742
Which countries are allied with Mexico?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 triple-posted this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,743
Okay, so it seems that both the US, and Canada are allied with Mexico. Also Mexico's population is 112,336,538, while for Texas it's 25,674,681.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,744
@366,741 (I)
Nah, probably the UN would slap us with sanctions and we'd have to sign some kind of treaty and give back some of the land we took.
But we'll have set a nice precedent: Don't fuck with Texas.
Nah, probably the UN would slap us with sanctions and we'd have to sign some kind of treaty and give back some of the land we took.
But we'll have set a nice precedent: Don't fuck with Texas.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,745
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
You said that Texas would attack a non military nation, and then get spanked by the UN, before it could be obliterated by the rest of the United States.
lol Talk about setting a precedent.
You said that Texas would attack a non military nation, and then get spanked by the UN, before it could be obliterated by the rest of the United States.
lol Talk about setting a precedent.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 43 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,746
@366,743 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
We have nukes here, and let's face it, if the US couldn't stop us from seceeding then i doubt they'll stop us from keeping our nukes.
We have nukes here, and let's face it, if the US couldn't stop us from seceeding then i doubt they'll stop us from keeping our nukes.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,749
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Nukes at American military Army bases? lololol What happens if Texas tries to keep dangerous American military property? Sounds like war to me. Ah, I love Texans.
Nukes at American military Army bases? lololol What happens if Texas tries to keep dangerous American military property? Sounds like war to me. Ah, I love Texans.
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squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,750
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Like i said, if texas was able to actually seceed then the US would likely be in no position to do anything about our new nuclear arsenal.
Like i said, if texas was able to actually seceed then the US would likely be in no position to do anything about our new nuclear arsenal.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,751
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Could other countries (US allies) do something about your nuclear weapons? You actually think that Texas could fight off America, Mexico, Canada, and any American allies, while at the same time keeping government property, (a government they claim not to need?)
Do the majority of Texans believe these things, and is that why succession is always an issue? Texas feels like it can take on the world?
Could other countries (US allies) do something about your nuclear weapons? You actually think that Texas could fight off America, Mexico, Canada, and any American allies, while at the same time keeping government property, (a government they claim not to need?)
Do the majority of Texans believe these things, and is that why succession is always an issue? Texas feels like it can take on the world?
Syntax (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,752
This thread is more better then ever EXPECTED Alas I am in Career Crisis Mode at momento. May do a poll on my options here for stress relief n even an idea or 3 including chucking it all for a taste of sprite.I will return broke or less then break even on what I am up too. So thanks for the replies and this topic came about from a SERIOUS Political Forum Populated by only a handful of people now and they all want to bail from USA -- Owner of that forum I use on occasions (Banned many a time over the years for being a Liberal
They are so outraged over Obama winning the 2nd term and even are discussing bullets weapons and just wait until I add a topic about Bomb making cause I once as a hobby really got good at Fireworks n Bombs Rockets and most of what I did came directly out of off the shelf Library book and most serious chemicals to Make Nitro came over the counter from my local Save On Drug store and I was younger at that time then most of you here.
They are all NRA Supporters and 2Nd amendment types and I want to find out why they did not stand up and fight those new rules about making Bombs at home - sorry for this horrid disjointed mess but work is so much of as mess at momento
Will Return but probably after Midnight if lucky or sooner if I throw in the towel and tell Client and Their Insurance Company to turn head up their ASSHOLES
250+ of billing hours and Insurance company who assigned me the TASK says bill the Client. Client says we did not give you the TASK get your money from Insurance Company. Yet I have 100's of more hours of work and No Pay? So sure I knew the Client was/is/has/been/ in huge mess re income n cost of putting up a total brand new fleet of 48 New Satellites ain't cheep and they survived one Bankrupt operation mode buuuuuuuuuuuut they just said WE made Money last Quarter ---- Its not like they can afford to see me turn tail and just move on to Terrestrial Cell stuff only and I can but ain't nearly the fun ....But Fun dooooon't pay for Wot bugs Becky when I say it soooooo
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buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,754
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,756
@366,751 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Considering american allies include mexico, canada, and france?
Yes. Also we'd have allies too, like russia and iran. They love revolutionaries. Probably all of south america would be our allies (probably becuase of how hard we crush mexico) and even china would side with us.
Do you think america wants to go to war with china over texas' handling of mexican refugees? Not a good enough reason.
Considering american allies include mexico, canada, and france?
Yes. Also we'd have allies too, like russia and iran. They love revolutionaries. Probably all of south america would be our allies (probably becuase of how hard we crush mexico) and even china would side with us.
Do you think america wants to go to war with china over texas' handling of mexican refugees? Not a good enough reason.
Syntax (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,757
@366,754 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
It did happen. I tried my best to get those wackos who started the pull out of USA to tell me about the law on it. Replies but no help or links Nada. I only had time to hit Wiki for Secession
But only time enough to skim and find US Super court ruled again it and NOW OUT OF TIME ON even this reply.
HOURS OF WORK TO GO WITH NO BREAKS INCLUDING N U DO NOT WANT TO KNOW - SO Did you have any luck re my request? Will look for reply in a bunch of hours
It did happen. I tried my best to get those wackos who started the pull out of USA to tell me about the law on it. Replies but no help or links Nada. I only had time to hit Wiki for Secession
But only time enough to skim and find US Super court ruled again it and NOW OUT OF TIME ON even this reply.
HOURS OF WORK TO GO WITH NO BREAKS INCLUDING N U DO NOT WANT TO KNOW - SO Did you have any luck re my request? Will look for reply in a bunch of hours
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,759
@366,756 (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
You dont automatically get allies. This is magical thinking!
American allies include England, Mexico, Canada, France, Australia, Germany and Israel. also, The minute you brought nuclear bombs into this, it wouldnt be about Mexico any longer. Once you bring nuclear bombs into this, it'll every nation against Texas!
You are stuck forty years in the past. Russia loves America now, and has received billions of aid from the US, not Texas! You also think that China would side with Texas over the US? Where would they get their money?
You dont automatically get allies. This is magical thinking!
American allies include England, Mexico, Canada, France, Australia, Germany and Israel. also, The minute you brought nuclear bombs into this, it wouldnt be about Mexico any longer. Once you bring nuclear bombs into this, it'll every nation against Texas!
You are stuck forty years in the past. Russia loves America now, and has received billions of aid from the US, not Texas! You also think that China would side with Texas over the US? Where would they get their money?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 48 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,760
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 triple-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,761
Do any other US states hold Nuclear weapons, or is it just Texas?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,762
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 quintuple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,764
Is this map accurate?
Nuke facilities in the US.
http://batchgeo.com/map/a87855317fdfab0922206bca2dbd19b9
Nuke facilities in the US.
http://batchgeo.com/map/a87855317fdfab0922206bca2dbd19b9
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,767
@366,759 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
We'd automatically pick up Iran and North Korea. They love proliferation. Hell, they'd probably pay big money for our nukes. I bet we'd get venezuela pretty quick and maybe even cuba.
The US isn't very well liked you know, but everyone loves cowboys. We'd be the talk of the international community, and i bet a lot of nations would side with the new Republic of Texas. And we'll have prime real estate ready to host a Russian missile shield in the west. Win win.
For texas i mean.
We'd automatically pick up Iran and North Korea. They love proliferation. Hell, they'd probably pay big money for our nukes. I bet we'd get venezuela pretty quick and maybe even cuba.
The US isn't very well liked you know, but everyone loves cowboys. We'd be the talk of the international community, and i bet a lot of nations would side with the new Republic of Texas. And we'll have prime real estate ready to host a Russian missile shield in the west. Win win.
For texas i mean.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,768
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
I love how you brag that Texas would pick up Iran and North Korea, which are considered to be two of the worst places on Earth. lol
Also, many people hate the US because they see us all like stupid cowboys Just like George Bush. You seem delusional squeegee.
I love how you brag that Texas would pick up Iran and North Korea, which are considered to be two of the worst places on Earth. lol
Also, many people hate the US because they see us all like stupid cowboys Just like George Bush. You seem delusional squeegee.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,769
So lets see, Texas would have North Korea and Iran perhaps. America would have France, Australia, Germany, Mexico, Canada, Israel, England, and probably China, and also the UN. How does that look?
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buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 triple-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,770
So, this is Texas starting WWIII.
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squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,771
@366,769 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
No way, we'd get china. They'll be super pissed when the US goes bankrupt and disolves their debt to china. I'm not really worried about the rest of those places, austerity will finish them off.
What other near bankrupt and broke countries should i worry about? One that's riddled with obesity and entitlement? Nah.
No way, we'd get china. They'll be super pissed when the US goes bankrupt and disolves their debt to china. I'm not really worried about the rest of those places, austerity will finish them off.
What other near bankrupt and broke countries should i worry about? One that's riddled with obesity and entitlement? Nah.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,772
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. People hate the US because they see us as stupid cowboys, Texas is the worst. They have the second highest rate of teen pregnancy, and push to teach creation science. The rest of the world sees you as fools.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. People hate the US because they see us as stupid cowboys, Texas is the worst. They have the second highest rate of teen pregnancy, and push to teach creation science. The rest of the world sees you as fools.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 38 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,775
Texas is the 25th richest state in the US. lol
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 triple-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,777
Does Texas grow most of their own food?
http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/newsReleases?area=newsroom&subject=landing&topic=edn&newstype=ednewsrel&type=detail&item=ed_20110628_rel_0061.html
http://www.fsa.usda.gov/FSA/newsReleases?area=newsroom&subject=landing&topic=edn&newstype=ednewsrel&type=detail&item=ed_20110628_rel_0061.html
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,780
@366,772 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
We love babies and we love God, if you want to go around killing teen girls babies go ahead, you monster. What did teen girls ever do to you that you want to kill their children?
Also we are the world leaders in creation science. Our scientists are among the best in the world and practically invented the science of creationism.
Ur mad
We love babies and we love God, if you want to go around killing teen girls babies go ahead, you monster. What did teen girls ever do to you that you want to kill their children?
Also we are the world leaders in creation science. Our scientists are among the best in the world and practically invented the science of creationism.
Ur mad
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 47 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,782
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Texas ranks 29th in infant mortality rates.
http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank17.html
Texas ranks 29th in infant mortality rates.
http://www.census.gov/statab/ranks/rank17.html
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,785
@366,771 (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
A breakaway nation of right-wing Christians allied with Iran, North Korea, and China by necessity? That sounds like the plot for a great dystopian comedy.
A breakaway nation of right-wing Christians allied with Iran, North Korea, and China by necessity? That sounds like the plot for a great dystopian comedy.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,787
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,788
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Texas: We dont allow abortions, but poor children can starve to death.
Texas: We dont allow abortions, but poor children can starve to death.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,791
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Once they can fend for themselves tey should take care of themselves.
We aren't a Republic of needy whiners looking for "gimmie dats," and we're not raising our children to hold out their hands.
Once they can fend for themselves tey should take care of themselves.
We aren't a Republic of needy whiners looking for "gimmie dats," and we're not raising our children to hold out their hands.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,792
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
The children should be able to fend for themselves? Now that's interesting. Once you succeed, and lose those government billions, you'll just have even more children rotting in the streets. Actually, Texas is starting to sound a lot like China.
The children should be able to fend for themselves? Now that's interesting. Once you succeed, and lose those government billions, you'll just have even more children rotting in the streets. Actually, Texas is starting to sound a lot like China.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,793
Texas and education/poverty
quote:
DEMOGRAPHERS like to say that Texas today is the United States tomorrow. That being the case, a look at San Antonio—the second-largest city in Texas, and seventh-largest in the country—suggests that America had better get cracking. In many respects the city is in an enviable position: young, diverse, and growing by bounds. It also includes a huge number of children—a quarter of whom live in poverty, most of whom need more education, and all of whom live in a state where government spending is a hard sell. At the Democratic National Convention recently the mayor, Julián Castro, made a pitch for change: “We know that you can’t be pro-business unless you’re pro-education,†he said.
To that end, he said, the city was working for a bigger pre-school programme. The idea is part of a national trend towards early childhood education. “Give me a child until he is seven,†runs the famous Jesuit saying, “and I will give you the man.†Why wait that long, though? By the time children start kindergarten, some are manifestly more ready than others, in terms of their health, cognitive skills, and ability to pay attention to the teacher.
Studies have shown that these advantages persist, and that poverty is the biggest factor. According to a recent analysis from the Brookings Institution, a think-tank, just 48% of children born into poor families are ready for school by the time they start kindergarten. Among children from middle-class and rich families, 75% are.
http://www.economist.com/node/21563336
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DEMOGRAPHERS like to say that Texas today is the United States tomorrow. That being the case, a look at San Antonio—the second-largest city in Texas, and seventh-largest in the country—suggests that America had better get cracking. In many respects the city is in an enviable position: young, diverse, and growing by bounds. It also includes a huge number of children—a quarter of whom live in poverty, most of whom need more education, and all of whom live in a state where government spending is a hard sell. At the Democratic National Convention recently the mayor, Julián Castro, made a pitch for change: “We know that you can’t be pro-business unless you’re pro-education,†he said.
To that end, he said, the city was working for a bigger pre-school programme. The idea is part of a national trend towards early childhood education. “Give me a child until he is seven,†runs the famous Jesuit saying, “and I will give you the man.†Why wait that long, though? By the time children start kindergarten, some are manifestly more ready than others, in terms of their health, cognitive skills, and ability to pay attention to the teacher.
Studies have shown that these advantages persist, and that poverty is the biggest factor. According to a recent analysis from the Brookings Institution, a think-tank, just 48% of children born into poor families are ready for school by the time they start kindergarten. Among children from middle-class and rich families, 75% are.
http://www.economist.com/node/21563336
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,795
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 4 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,796
budget problems in Texas
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Education-HHS-leaders-say-Texas-not-spending-2972833.php
AUSTIN – Two key leaders of Gov. Rick Perry's team highlighted growing budget problems this week, with one projecting at least a $15 billion hole in the Medicaid program and another warning that the ban on social promotions will end unless lawmakers find money to help struggling students.
More also will be needed to pay for the new school accountability system, Texas Education Commissioner Robert Scott told school administrators Monday.
Warnings from the two respected agency commissioners that state leaders need to appropriate more money to fix problems in the costliest missions of state government - education and health care - will renew the ongoing conflict between those advocating more spending and others who want to shrink government.
They also will present formidable challenges to Perry's leadership and spur speculation about his political strength in the wake of his failed national campaign for the Republican nomination for president.
"We need to hear the truth so we can seriously address the consequences," said state Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio. "We have known Texas' revenue system cannot meet and does not meet its growing infrastructure needs in education, health care, water and transportation. What's new is that we finally have two state officials with enough courage to say the truth."
Lawmakers last year slashed billions in funding for education and health care under a Perry mandate that the state budget be balanced through spending cuts rather than with revenue increases.
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Education-HHS-leaders-say-Texas-not-spending-2972833.php
AUSTIN – Two key leaders of Gov. Rick Perry's team highlighted growing budget problems this week, with one projecting at least a $15 billion hole in the Medicaid program and another warning that the ban on social promotions will end unless lawmakers find money to help struggling students.
More also will be needed to pay for the new school accountability system, Texas Education Commissioner Robert Scott told school administrators Monday.
Warnings from the two respected agency commissioners that state leaders need to appropriate more money to fix problems in the costliest missions of state government - education and health care - will renew the ongoing conflict between those advocating more spending and others who want to shrink government.
They also will present formidable challenges to Perry's leadership and spur speculation about his political strength in the wake of his failed national campaign for the Republican nomination for president.
"We need to hear the truth so we can seriously address the consequences," said state Sen. Leticia Van de Putte, D-San Antonio. "We have known Texas' revenue system cannot meet and does not meet its growing infrastructure needs in education, health care, water and transportation. What's new is that we finally have two state officials with enough courage to say the truth."
Lawmakers last year slashed billions in funding for education and health care under a Perry mandate that the state budget be balanced through spending cuts rather than with revenue increases.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,798
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
So? What's wrong with increasing revenue through spending cuts?
So? What's wrong with increasing revenue through spending cuts?
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buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,799
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
At least 15 billion in the hole, have already drastically cut education (which they need), and still want to leave the US. lol
At least 15 billion in the hole, have already drastically cut education (which they need), and still want to leave the US. lol
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,801
Child sex trafficking huge problem in Texas.
They wont abort, feed or educate children, but they'll sure as hell fuck em. lolololol
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Around 25 percent of the estimated 300,000 American children lured into sex trafficking each year live in Texas — a sobering fact presented at a news conference Tuesday, where victim advocates sought to lay out the scope of the problem and ways it might be better addressed.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Child-sex-trafficking-a-huge-problem-in-Texas-and-3714153.php
They wont abort, feed or educate children, but they'll sure as hell fuck em. lolololol
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Around 25 percent of the estimated 300,000 American children lured into sex trafficking each year live in Texas — a sobering fact presented at a news conference Tuesday, where victim advocates sought to lay out the scope of the problem and ways it might be better addressed.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Child-sex-trafficking-a-huge-problem-in-Texas-and-3714153.php
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squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,802
@366,799 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
We need american public education huh? Worst in the world. A republic of texas would privatize education and we'd have a better return on our money. We can't do that now becuase of broken US education system that is required by US law.
We don't need that noise, that's why we defund it as much as possible. It's bad.
We need american public education huh? Worst in the world. A republic of texas would privatize education and we'd have a better return on our money. We can't do that now becuase of broken US education system that is required by US law.
We don't need that noise, that's why we defund it as much as possible. It's bad.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc double-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,805
@366,801 (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Those are illegalnmexican children sold into sex trafficing. That's hardly our fault, and the vast majority are shipped to other states. I'd say it's all the decadent yankees and their appetite for slave girls that feeds the problem. Texas is just in the middle, if the US would secure our borders the problem would move to arizona. But they won't, so we have to seceed to save the children.
Those are illegalnmexican children sold into sex trafficing. That's hardly our fault, and the vast majority are shipped to other states. I'd say it's all the decadent yankees and their appetite for slave girls that feeds the problem. Texas is just in the middle, if the US would secure our borders the problem would move to arizona. But they won't, so we have to seceed to save the children.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,808
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
How would you know what color they are? Are you denying white slavery?
How would you know what color they are? Are you denying white slavery?
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,809
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,810
Housing shortages
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/us/west-texas-oil-boom-creates-housing-shortage-and-other-issues.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/us/west-texas-oil-boom-creates-housing-shortage-and-other-issues.html
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,811
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
Housing shortage = new real estate development. How is that bad?
You're really reaching now.
> "texas is hot in the summer."
the hell you say.
Housing shortage = new real estate development. How is that bad?
You're really reaching now.
> "texas is hot in the summer."
the hell you say.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,814
Maybe we should just let Texas leave. Look at all this government money that we gave to a state that claims to want to exit our government.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-stimulus-funds_n_929127.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-stimulus-funds_n_929127.html
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,816
Just let them leave.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/03/is_texas_reproductive_health_care_in_jeopardy/
http://nursingclio.org/2012/11/02/hpv-and-the-importance-of-planned-parenthood/
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/03/is_texas_reproductive_health_care_in_jeopardy/
http://nursingclio.org/2012/11/02/hpv-and-the-importance-of-planned-parenthood/
squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 53 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,828
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,830
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,909
Rick Perry stutters through his explanation of why abstinence only education works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiJhmoFKkw&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngiJhmoFKkw&feature=player_embedded
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,917
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,925
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
I just keep finding out more awful things about Texas. It's hard for me to stop, when I'm on a roll.
I just keep finding out more awful things about Texas. It's hard for me to stop, when I'm on a roll.
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,927
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
why don't you worry about florida. it's nothing but puerto-ricans and old people.
doesn't that concern you?
why don't you worry about florida. it's nothing but puerto-ricans and old people.
doesn't that concern you?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #366,933
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
I'm surrounded by brown people and old people every day. So no, it doesn't worry me.
I'm surrounded by brown people and old people every day. So no, it doesn't worry me.