Topic: the upcoming dual-executions of Ramon Torres Hernandez and Preston Hughes III
squeegee !firstkPE1Q started this discussion 14 years ago #23,325
that's right, next week we've got back to back executions. First up on the 14th we got Ramon Torres HernandezOn 03/31/2002, in San Antonio, Texas, Hernandez and 2 co-defendants abducted, robbed, sexually assaulted, and murdered a 37-year old Hispanic female, later transporting her body to a wooded area and burying her in a shallow grave. Hernandez asked one co-defendant to purchase the shovel used to dig the grave while the victim was still alive and being assaulted.
he had priors involving burglary and rape!
Next up is Preston Hughes III scheduled for the 15th.
He raped and killed a 15 year old girl and stabbed a 3 year old till it died.
which brutal raping murderer should win their appeal?
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| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| neither, execute them both | 6 | 67% | |
| execute one, but not the other (specify) | - | 0% | |
| don't execute either. (this option makes no difference) | 3 | 33% |
Handle !tYHPZ2dvu6 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later[^] [v] #364,712
What is with you and executions?
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #364,714
@previous (Handle !tYHPZ2dvu6)
i'm not likely to donate to a charity or support an organization, but i'll argue about the death penalty in Texas on the internet.
i'm not likely to donate to a charity or support an organization, but i'll argue about the death penalty in Texas on the internet.
Handle !tYHPZ2dvu6 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #364,716
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #364,717
@previous (Handle !tYHPZ2dvu6)
there's no justification for it. it's unethical and morally wrong.
it's more expensive, it causes more people to suffer, it contributes nothing to society.
there's no justification for it. it's unethical and morally wrong.
it's more expensive, it causes more people to suffer, it contributes nothing to society.
(◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #364,720
LIfe in prison is less risky and less morally-wrong.
Antikhristos !M6R0eWkIpk joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #364,721
Where will these be streamed at so I can go ahead and bookmark it? Thanks.
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 43 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #364,725
@364,720 ((◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc)
Unless they kill again, which many lifers do. It's hard to justify the death penalty, but it's equally difficult to justify putting others at risk to let someone live who has already taken the life of others. The death penalty should be reserved for the worst offender only, and it should only be implemented on people who convicted with 100% certainty. Some of those guys are real monsters and deserve to die even if it cost us more, if they have anything to enjoy in life, it's too much. That being said, most should be considered for rehabilitation.
Unless they kill again, which many lifers do. It's hard to justify the death penalty, but it's equally difficult to justify putting others at risk to let someone live who has already taken the life of others. The death penalty should be reserved for the worst offender only, and it should only be implemented on people who convicted with 100% certainty. Some of those guys are real monsters and deserve to die even if it cost us more, if they have anything to enjoy in life, it's too much. That being said, most should be considered for rehabilitation.
(◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,730
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,731
@previous ((◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc)
> GOD BLESS THE TROOPS FOR KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE OVERSEAS
> WHY STOOP TO THE LEVEL OF KILLING BRUTAL RAPIST-MURDERERS?
> GOD BLESS THE TROOPS FOR KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE OVERSEAS
> WHY STOOP TO THE LEVEL OF KILLING BRUTAL RAPIST-MURDERERS?
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,732
@364,730 ((◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc)
> as killers of human beings
Humans don't torture/rape/kill/mutilate people and not feel bad about it. Those are animals in human skin.
> as killers of human beings
Humans don't torture/rape/kill/mutilate people and not feel bad about it. Those are animals in human skin.
(◣_◢)┌∩┠!ZZZYzLybAc replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,734
Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,755
I have no moral qualms with the death penalty, I just think the way we go about it in the US is flawed. We spend way too much money on lawyers, appeals etc. It costs us more money to kill people than it does to keep them in prison for life.
I believe that if the death penalty is administered, the convicted should be executed within the week. Killing those detrimental to society makes sense, making those people wait years to die, and spending ridiculous amounts of money on them does not.
I believe that if the death penalty is administered, the convicted should be executed within the week. Killing those detrimental to society makes sense, making those people wait years to die, and spending ridiculous amounts of money on them does not.
henn joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,757
I'm all for the death penalty!
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,758
@364,755 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
It should cost money. I'm not opposed to the death penalty but it's pretty final when administered. I'd feel better about it if I knew there was no way to execute an innocent person. For instance, Damien Echols spent 18 years on death row for a crime he didn't commit. I would hate to find myself in a position where my life could be ended for a crime I didn't commit.
It should cost money. I'm not opposed to the death penalty but it's pretty final when administered. I'd feel better about it if I knew there was no way to execute an innocent person. For instance, Damien Echols spent 18 years on death row for a crime he didn't commit. I would hate to find myself in a position where my life could be ended for a crime I didn't commit.
Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,765
@previous (I)
Okay, so that's why'd you cut out the wait time. It would cut cost, and cut the time the convicted have to suffer. Everyone wins.
Okay, so that's why'd you cut out the wait time. It would cut cost, and cut the time the convicted have to suffer. Everyone wins.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,809
op> neither, execute them both
neither? what does this mean?
Ashe joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 20 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,812
@364,755 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
In Britain, you were taken out the back door of your cell and hanged that next Tuesday. I hate to think how many innocents have been killed as a result of this.
In Britain, you were taken out the back door of your cell and hanged that next Tuesday. I hate to think how many innocents have been killed as a result of this.
Ashe double-posted this 14 years ago, 37 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,813
@364,809 (J)
syntax the question those answers are for was "which brutal raping murderer should win their appeal?"
syntax the question those answers are for was "which brutal raping murderer should win their appeal?"
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,815
@previous (Ashe)
My eyes are so burned out from 3 screens running after Market after hours stock trades and Three Sun Solaris work stations running Satellite stuff so I Obviously did not read all the way to the bottom of buried text and failed.
Thank you and now my vote is in.
My eyes are so burned out from 3 screens running after Market after hours stock trades and Three Sun Solaris work stations running Satellite stuff so I Obviously did not read all the way to the bottom of buried text and failed.
Thank you and now my vote is in.
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Ashe replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,816
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,817
Ashe replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,818
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,820
@previous (Ashe)
Not I
I have always been in favor of the death penalty and voted to keep it Nov6 and enough agreed with me.
I did vote to modify 3 strikes law. Perhaps you are referring to my change of mind on Abortion? I was never against a woman making that decision, but for me I was against it IF it were up to me.
That changed over a period of a few weeks. (Almost a non intended pun in there)
Not I
I have always been in favor of the death penalty and voted to keep it Nov6 and enough agreed with me.
I did vote to modify 3 strikes law. Perhaps you are referring to my change of mind on Abortion? I was never against a woman making that decision, but for me I was against it IF it were up to me.
That changed over a period of a few weeks. (Almost a non intended pun in there)
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,834
Anonymous F double-posted this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,837
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 25 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #364,848
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #366,322
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. - Gandhi
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #366,331
Oh, hey, thanks for reminding me. The back to back duel executuons start tonight.