Topic: Why are automatic cars so popular in America?
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago#22,933
Approximately 84% of private vehicles in the UK have a manual rather than automatic transmission. There are no statistics available for the USA, but I can only assume that the vast vast majority of cars there are automatic. Why is that?
Being in an automatic car isn't driving, it's just steering. With MPG and performance shittier on automatic cars, one does wonder, why are automatics so popular in the USA? Is it simply because Americans are more lazy?
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,295
@previous (A)
I had to pull over and my passenger drove whilst I cried and hyperventilated.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,297
@previous (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
Yes but what triggered that? Could you not find a gear or something? You stalled it? What was the issue?
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,299
@previous (A)
5-ish minutes trying to pull out on a steep hill. frustrated.
Get up, poor mood.
pulling onto a road, more stalling trouble.
get through, immensely freaked out.
hyperventilating.
If I get really stressed in a short period, I lose it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,305
@previous (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
That's pretty funny. Once you've driven manual for a few months you will get used to it and have no problem with any stuff like that. Next time clam down.
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 54 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,307
@359,299 (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
You are such a fucking pussy. @previous (A) > clam
stickybuns !bENfolDsOU replied with this 14 years ago, 6 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,308
@359,305 (A)
I think the problem was I was trying to learn to drive at the same time. I didn't know what to do on the road, let alone how to control my vehicle.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#359,309
> 2012 > asking why Americans do retarded shit
Oh you @OP, you put a smile on my face and fill my hear with joy and happyness :D
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#359,316
> The answer to most "Why does America...?" questions is simply "because Americans are retarded." > > You'll save yourself a lot of time if you keep this in mind, son.
QFT
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#359,320
@359,308 (stickybuns !bENfolDsOU)
how do you think driving lessons in europe work
Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,337
The main reason, I think, is that gasoline costs half as much in the US as it does in the UK so the efficiency argument doesn't matter much. The second reason is that most people, in either the UK or the US just want a transportation appliance to get from A to B. Automatics are better because you don't have to think about gear shifts or hill starts or the clutch or any of that. In city traffic a manual transmission is more a liability than anything. Automatics are better 99% of the time.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,338
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw) > Automatics are better 99% of the time.
Bullshit.
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,339
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,346
@359,337 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw) > gear shifts > hill starts > city traffic
You speak of manual cars as if it was rocket science. If you think any of the above are skills that need to be mastered in a manual car, I have bad news for you.
Also... aimed at the Euro manual masterrace, have you ever driven automatic? Did you floor the brake peddal as if it was the clutch at least once? Was glad to be buckled down, would have flown through the windshield haha...
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,347
@359,345 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx) Get that GED Visit Seattle and then we’ll talk. Thanks.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,351
Because britain is about yhe size of virginia, and the US is 50X bigger than england and easily twice the size of the whole of europe.
Most americans average 15k per year driving, but very many drive more. Most of our roads are highways with gridlock traffic, not nice little 2 lane country roads full of bikes.
We do real driving here, not recreational driving. When you spend, on average, 45 minutes in traffic to and from work you'll want an automatic too.
You brits are just behind the technology curve, we'll have cars driving by themselves and eurofags will still be pooting around in their little manual fiats an old taxis.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,353
@359,347 (K)
I can see how hills would seem worse for the average Seattle-dweller, since you all, of course, get around on bikes.
Also, we don't have GEDs here. Thanks. Thanks.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,358
@359,351 (N) > You brits are just behind the technology curve, we'll have cars driving by themselves and eurofags will still be pooting around in their little manual fiats an old taxis.
lololololololol
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,359
Anonymous O replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,362
@previous (A)
by the by I agree with you HowSomEver albeit I drive a Stick Shift my GF's car is Automatic and when we drive North up to San Francisco, we use her car cause Stick shifts just do not cut it, including advanced Sticks that are not as difficult as in past re Mother Fucking San Francisco Hills.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,364
@359,351 (N)
Hahahahahahahahaha thanks man. It's twice as funny since I know you're serious. Hahahahaha...
Anonymous O replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,368
@359,337 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Americans are lazy as fuck so automatics are super popular.
@359,351 (N) > Because Britain is about the size of a Vagina
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,370
@359,351 (N) > Because britain is about yhe size of virginia
Population of Virginia: 8,096,604
Population of the United Kingdom: 62,641,000
> and the US is 50X bigger than england and easily twice the size of the whole of europe
No, it isn't. The size of your country is fucking irrelevant to this, especially since in long journeys driving a manual is even easier. You get it in 5th or 6th gear and just leave it there for hours and hours on the motorway. Stupid argument.
> Most americans average 15k per year driving, but very many drive more.
Are you trolling or are you genuinely this fucking dumb? Do you think we do less miles than that on average annually? Can you demonstrate statistically that Americans drive more miles annually than Brits or are you just guessing all of this?
> Most of our roads are highways with gridlock traffic, not nice little 2 lane country roads full of bikes. We do real driving here, not recreational driving. When you spend, on average, 45 minutes in traffic to and from work you'll want an automatic too. You brits are just behind the technology curve, we'll have cars driving by themselves and eurofags will still be pooting around in their little manual fiats an old taxis.
Totally inaccurate perception of Britain combined with stupidity and ignorance. You really have no fucking idea what you're talking about. I could disprove all of the false bullshit you for some reason believe to be true, but why waste my time? You're just a dumb motherfucker.
@359,362 (O)
It's funny because when you talk about manual transmission, it's something out of the ordinary. For British people who drive manual as default, city traffic, hills, stopping on a hill, none of it is an issue whatsoever. It's very simple once you have it practiced enough.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,371
Anonymous O replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,373
@359,370 (A)
I have traveled for business n pleasure in your country. Never driven there. Taxi's mostly. Big cities of USA are freeway's which often are a real pain with Manual transmission. So many start stops for 45 mins drive. I did that daily in Los Angeles, and kept wondering why I continued to buy stick shifts. With the Porsche that was the only option - Alfa Romeo and previous Fiat Spyder 124, the same.
Here in San Diego with even fewer freeway options, I continued with a stick (BMW's) So I have years n years of practice but its still a pain when I am jammed up on a freeway. These days as a full time consultant, its not a problem because I plan meetings based on avoiding freeway peak jam times.
Anonymous O double-posted this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,374
@359,372 (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Ya know the comparison of Virginia to Britain, is not that far off.
94,530 sq miles (244,800 km²)
United Kingdom, Area which includes an Island
Virginia
42,770 sq miles (110,800 km²)
Virginia, Area
Another State like Arizona 114,000 sq miles (295,300 km²) wood have been more better but not as funny as Virginia.
Killer Letuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,375
@previous (O)
How is a difference of 51760 square miles "not that far off"?
(Edited 7 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 28 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,376
Are all Americans this fucking dumb or just the ones that post on this website
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,377
Automatic cars are freedom. Why do you hate Freedom?
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,378
@359,374 (O)
but europe is a quite a bit larger than the us
squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,380
> > Because britain is about yhe size of virginia > > Population of Virginia: 8,096,604 > Population of the United Kingdom: 62,641,000
So? britain is small, so it's tightly packed, great for walking (since it was designed in walking days,) and you've got great public transportation. like y'all even need to shift out of third to get where you're going. it's a breeze. Plus your roundabouts are really fucking efficient, you don't even need to downshift.
> > and the US is 50X bigger than england and easily twice the size of the whole of europe > > No, it isn't. The size of your country is fucking irrelevant to this, especially since in long journeys driving a manual is even easier. You get it in 5th or 6th gear and just leave it there for hours and hours on the motorway. Stupid argument.
no, i mean that our 8-12 lane highways are usually gridlocked for 45 minutes to an hour in either direction multiple times per day. That means you sit and wait, then go for a second, stop, wait, go for a bit, stop real hard because texting, wait for awhile, accelerate to 20 miles per-hour for 23 seconds, stop, wait, go, stop, wait, go, wait, start going, stop, wait for a while, get past the first jam, drive 45mph for less than 1 mile, slow down, sloe down, cruis, slow down, stop... back to waiting. This goes on for almost an hour.
you can't tell me simply easing up on the brake a little as you scooch along is harder than constantly pumping your clutch for an hour.
for real, after about 30 minutes you're looking to exit the highway and take surface streets and deal with lights. at least it feels like you're making progress. granted, because i used to drive a manual transmission vehicle i do know quite a number of back ways to get places.
but now that i've got an automatic i take the highway. i just lean back, sip my coffee and i tap my foot-just singing along-with cyndi lauper or some other gay ass shit becuase i'm happy as fuck i don't have to use my parking break to keep from rolling back into people trying to go uphill. You probably read stickbuns post, trying to do that shit makes people lose it! i don't know what you'd want to subject yourself to that just because manual transmission is hip.
> > Most americans average 15k per year driving, but very many drive more. > > Are you trolling or are you genuinely this fucking dumb? Do you think we do less miles than that on average annually? Can you demonstrate statistically that Americans drive more miles annually than Brits or are you just guessing all of this?
well let's ask Yahoo! answers.
BEST ANSWER: Kilometers are shorter than miles.
Plus, i bet you walk places. motherfucker, if we can't park next to it we're not eating there.
> > Most of our roads are highways with gridlock traffic, not nice little 2 lane country roads full of bikes. We do real driving here, not recreational driving. When you spend, on average, 45 minutes in traffic to and from work you'll want an automatic too. You brits are just behind the technology curve, we'll have cars driving by themselves and eurofags will still be pooting around in their little manual fiats an old taxis. > > Totally inaccurate perception of Britain combined with stupidity and ignorance. You really have no fucking idea what you're talking about. I could disprove all of the false bullshit you for some reason believe to be true, but why waste my time? You're just a dumb motherfucker. > I could disprove all of the false bullshit > I could disprove > I could
you won't because you probably don't even own a car. around these parts when you turn 16 if you're not given a car shame is cast upon your family. people won't even associate with you. Or they will, but they'll plan things all the way across town where you can't possibly get to it because public transportation is a joke.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,384
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
You sir are comedy gold.
Anonymous O replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,389
@359,375 (Killer Letuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Its a political season here were One percent is a huge difference and at same time 40% can be fudgged depending on wot ur up 2
@359,378 (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
Hope u no longer have a hangover - Wot does Eu have to do with this? Borders n guards n you have to show passport -ok that was recent past - Hell I have party guests arriving for debate n need to get ready for em
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,398
@359,384 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
my real opinion is that for the vast majority of drivers you want to make cars safe, and easy to operate. honestly, they'll give anyone a license here. we don't just execute retards and insane people, we let them drive too.
let's make it nice and simple for everyone.
and it's great that people like the option of manual transmission, it adds a layer of depth, and complexity. simply put, it's not for everyone. did you see that video of the girl that drives with her feet because she has no arms? we let her have a license. anyone can drive, but not everyone should be shifting gears.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,401
boners double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,405
@359,378 (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
only if you include soviet russia
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,417
It's because we are not poor.
Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,420
My car needs to go forward when I tell it to and stop when I need it to stop. All I need to worry about is steering a heavy moving projectile from one place to another because that's all I use it for. Makes sense right?
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,440
The Eurofags here have a severe and permanent case of asspain over the fact they
are America's bitch and have been for more than half a century. All of the Eurofags on Minichan will still be America's bitch on the day they die too, they'll have lives a long, miserable, torturous life of Eurofag butthurt, waking up every day frustrated that they don't have any control over their own lives and going to bed angrily every night.
What a shame for them, but its no wonder that any little thing that an America say sends then into the fits of an unreasonable childlike tantrum.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,442
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,443
@previous (T)
imagine what things will be like when we have one world government
Anonymous T replied with this 14 years ago, 22 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,446
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
Nah, that's going to be straight up Anglo/US imperialism. ROW will only think they have rights, but really, they'll have the right to shut the fuck up and work for $3 a day.
Anonymous O replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,473
@359,380 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q) > i just lean back, sip my coffee and i tap my foot-just singing along-with cyndi lauper
lolololol 10 mile lolololol
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,496
@previous (B)
doesn't even matter because Russia is part of europ
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,497
@previous (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
no, its off in the corner doing is own little thing
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,500
@359,440 (D)
For a Chinese goverment hooker, you got a big mouth, which is noot needed since apperently, chinese cock are tiny (that's also why DM went to china, to finally please a woman used to tiny cock).
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,502
@359,417 (R)
Manual transmission vehicles are not cheaper.
> So? britain is small, so it's tightly packed, great for walking (since it was designed in walking days,) and you've got great public transportation. like y'all even need to shift out of third to get where you're going.
Again, all of this is an utter irrelevance and not even correct. Most things are in walking distance if you live in a major city. If you don't live in a city, you might live where the closest shop is 3 miles away, the nearest town 6 miles, the nearest city 30 miles. Because outside of our cities, everything else is spread out. And you need a fucking car to go anywhere. The roads which are only just wide enough for 2 cars (sometimes not even that), you would need to be suicidal to walk on them as a 60mph speed limit applies to these roads.
> Plus your roundabouts are really fucking efficient, you don't even need to downshift.
Even if you don't stop at a roundabout you still need to shift down to 2nd and slow down.
> no, i mean that our 8-12 lane highways are usually gridlocked for 45 minutes to an hour in either direction multiple times per day
Why don't you come and talk to people who commute to and from London on a daily basis? Better still why don't you fucking come here, get a hire car and drive through any city at rush hour? It will take you more than 45 minutes to find a McDonalds.
> you can't tell me simply easing up on the brake a little as you scooch along is harder than constantly pumping your clutch for an hour.
First of all you don't need to constantly pump the clutch. You can put the clutch all the way down and in 1st gear, then slowly ease your foot off the clutch and go forward. Then clutch all the way down and brake when you want to stop, without even using the accelerator. Anyway, you are dumb because I'm not trying to fucking argue every triviality of manual/automatic with you. Because for the vast majority of people in the UK (and other countries) this stuff is not even an issue that outweighs the other benefits of manual transmission.
> because manual transmission is hip
It's not that manual transmission is hip. It's just superior to automatic. If it's icy, you can start the car in 2nd gear. If you want to overtake somebody you switch down to 2nd or 3rd gear, then pass them with all of the power that your engine can deliver. Which is better and simply safer than an automatic. There are so many advantages. Yes it requires an extra foot and hand, but it's apparently worth it unless you're a fucking stupid American.
> Kilometers are shorter than miles.
No, our speedometers, road signs, speed limits, maps, GPS, car mileage are all in miles per hour. KPH is not used for anything really.
> you won't because you probably don't even own a car.
Yes I own a car, it's a manual transmission with 6 gears. If I could have 7 gears then I would.
Anonymous T replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,510
They are in America, and it's mainly poorfags who drive them.
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#359,517
@359,502 (A) > Anyway, you are dumb because I'm not trying to fucking argue every triviality of manual/automatic with you.
said the OP of the automatic vs. manual transmission thread. Oh, so you weren't here for a discussion, you were hear to tell us something.
@previous (T) > and it's mainly poorfags who drive them. i know, right? manual is fucking base model, unless you're driving a high dollar sports car or an off-road vehicle then you just look like some poor fag who can't afford simple upgrades to their car. do you also go with the base model radio "because the sterio upgrade only comes with mid-quality speakers and no sub woofer, and i'll eventually upgrade it to an aftermarket sterio system with pre-amps and everything. it's also a manual transmission because it's better and had no disadvantages whatsoever."