beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc replied with this 14 years ago, 21 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#357,852
@357,843 (doctor dreamworks md)
How do you get around the dehumanization that typically goes along with the guard-prisoner relationship? http://www.prisonexp.org/
doctor dreamworks md replied with this 14 years ago, 28 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#357,853
@357,847 (A) > guarding what?
idk what do prison guards generally guard
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 18 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#357,854
@357,841 (beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc)
Thats very true. One reason for that, is that many people assume that men dont get raped, or that when they do, its funny.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,891
Working stops me from finding out why Brittney Allen Young, is in prison. Someone help me out with the answer.
At MC dw asked me why I was for executions of killers. One reason is that it MAY stop someone from killing.
Prison is not supposed to be a nice place. Perhaps the horror of what happens in prison, will prevent those planning crimes?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,892
@previous (F)
I'll look it up for you. One problem with that, is that often non violent offenders are horribly raped and abused.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,893
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,895
@previous (A)
From your link
In 2007, Brittney Allen Young, a transgender woman, was incarcerated in the Powledge men’s prison unit in Palestine, TX. Her cellmate repeatedly overpowered and raped her. She complained to prison authorities, but they dismissed her complaints for lack of a corroborating witness to the incidents.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,896
beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,897
@357,891 (F) > Prison is not supposed to be a nice place. Perhaps the horror of what happens in prison, will prevent those planning crimes?
That's disgusting. Don't you believe in the Bill of Rights?
What about people who were wrongfully convicted? What about those who committed relatively minor offenses?
Do you think getting caught shoplifting, smoking or dealing pot, is a good reason for someone to be subjected to sexual abuse while under the care of the government?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#357,898
I don't see why you're all ignoring Ash's idea. It solves everything in a logical manner.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,900
@357,897 (beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc)
Of course I believe in the bill or rights.
I also believe in powerful deterrents to crime. Recently watched a rerun of a Seinfeld show where George and Jerry were kidding around about going to jail. Benefits, no rent free food and work out areas. Then Jerry reminded George of what goes on in prison behind closed doors
> What about people who were wrongfully convicted? What about those who committed relatively minor offenses?
Shit happens. Its not a perfect world. Those wrongfully convicted keep attorneys in business. One does have to look at positive side of negative outcomes.
Minor offenses usually do not end up in a hard core joint as depicted in link re Texas.
> shoplifting, smoking or dealing pot, is a good reason for someone to be subjected to sexual abuse while under the care of the government?
Of course NOT. So YES those who are in for minor offenses should have some SERIOUS Gov Protection.Serious offenses? Sorry but if they did real bad shit then let real bad shit happen to them
I put up the Topic re Norway with a Resort on the waterfront prison. Classy place. Bad shit probably does not happen there. (Me not in favor of such pay backs for bad crimes)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,901
@previous (F)
but it does happen to non violent offenders. What do you mean by serious government protection?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,905
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,907
@357,901 (A)
These days with cameras dirt cheep, every cell can have a camera with fisheye lenses. Even infrared is dirt cheep so lights can be off. Transgendered people need to be kept separated, unless they want to be in general population. Software can even spot body on body and set off alarms. Dirt cheep stuff. Once upon a time long ago, I was invited to San Quintin by the warden for 3 days/nights/
Nothing on TV or Movies comes close to depicting how horrid a prison can be. That was one of several prisons I viewed inside and reason for visits were to develop electronic technology to prevent guards from being killed.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,909
@previous (F)
Its not just happening to transgendered. What do we do for the weak?
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,912
@previous (A) WE use simple technology that exists in every 7-11 store. I still think Prison should be a really mean as hell place as deterrent.
Will post another reply just for Becky re the Bill of Rights
Anonymous F double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,914
What happens when a citizen of the U.S. becomes a felon? Answer: many of those inalienable rights become alienated to them. Lets take a closer look at some of these.
The Second Amendment says that the right to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed. Yet, a felon in the U.S. cannot keep and bare arms legally and the consequences for doing so are dire.
The Fourth Amendment protects citizens of the U.S. from unlawful search and seizure. Yet, a felon on or off of probation, parole, or supervision loses the standard of the Fourth Amendment where law enforcement needs only reasonable suspicion to invade their privacy.
The Fifth Amendment protects citizens against self-incrimination. Yet, a felon on probation, parole, or supervision must adhere to rules that require honest answers to their supervising officer or risk violating their supervision. Even if answering that question would mean incriminating themselves. That is placing a felon between a rock and a hard place: between their Fifth Amendment protections and their rules of supervision.
The Sixth Amendment ensures a speedy and public trial by impartial jury. Is this even possible for somebody with a pre-existing felony record?
The Fifteenth and Nineteenth Amendments expand the right to vote to all U.S. Citizens. Yet, felons lose this right (some States, however, are starting to give this one back).
This is a short list and a short article. However, the point is to highlight what makes a man or woman a citizen of the United States. Above are six Amendments to the U.S. Constitution which guarantee rights to citizens of its borders.
These six Amendments do not apply to felons, so the title of this article stands: Felons in America are no Longer Citizens.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Handle !tYHPZ2dvu6 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,917
Sorry I forget what I said I'm not very consistent in my racism.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 14 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,930
@357,928 (A)
Did you find out what Brittney Allen Young did to get into her-his situation?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,931
@previous (F)
I couldnt find anything. I'm assuming that her name wasnt brittany at the time.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,933
@previous (A)
Ah with work today searching web is a bit difficult. I did try nor did it occur to me that would not be the name cops used to lock her-him up. Later when I have time I will try to find it myself. Just need His name b4 the transformation.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,936
@previous (F)
I like how you emphasized HIS, like we forgot.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,943
@previous (A)
Well you get what you pay for with me. I am not exactly Jesus Christ revisited. I do feel sorry for those who end up gender con~fusious. I doubt any of them wanted to be what nature handed them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,944
@previous (F)
I dont think that you feel pity for those people. Its obvious from how you refer to them.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 52 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,958
This thread makes me want to play Prison Architect. That game is awesome.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,971
@357,944 (A)
I disagree with your assessment, and Catherine who is here. can tell you that I support him-her in his-her pursuit of what ever he-she ends up being.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,978
@357,971 (F)
By saying this "him-her in his-her pursuit of what ever he-she ends up being" you just proved my point.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#357,980
@previous (A)
So you are perfection personified, and can pass judgement on me. Say you know what? That's cool with me. Takes a village to make this country, nor does everyone in said village agree with each other.