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Topic: Are women the new breadwinners?

Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #22,802

According to MSNBC, this is an election essentially about women because their the new breadwinners of households.

How accurate is this statement?
Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
Very. 3 25%
Somewhat. 1 8%
Not Really 8 67%

squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #357,470

my new girlfriend makes—alot—more money than i do.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,472

They are. They're also going to college in record numbers, caring for children, and making a lot of economy stimulating purchases.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,474

@previous (C)
I heard a majority of women go after are utterly pointless degrees because their not STEM degrees.
How true is this?

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,476

@357,470 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
How's the job security?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,478

@357,474 (A)
Are they useless if they provide well paying jobs?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,480

@previous (C)
Do they provide well paying jobs?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,481

@previous (A)
Obviously they do, if women are the new breadwinners.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,483

@previous (C)
Then how come many claim college is useless for anything besides STEM?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,485

@previous (A)
idk, because people are afraid of how less men are attending college and even doing worse in highschool?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,486

@previous (C)
How badly are men doing in high school and college?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #357,488

@previous (A)
I'll find you some statistics, but its not pretty.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/brooks-why-men-fail.html?_r=0

(Edited 40 seconds later.)

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,498

Women doing better in their careers means more financially stable families, this is good for everyone.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,503

@357,488 (C)
That article just talked about a book mostly. Are women really better adjusted to divorce?
And how do we improve performance for men in schools?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,507

@previous (A)
No it didnt, it talked performance in college and highschools.

Better adjusted to divorce?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,512

@previous (C)
For the first few paragraphs maybe and then it seem to went into talking about author Hanna Rosin's theories and comparing men/women to immigrants.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,514

@previous (A)
Why does that matter? You saw the percentages. What do you make of it?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,517

@previous (C)
Is there anyway we can raise the percentage?

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,519

NO THEY ARE THE NEW BREAD BAKERS WOMEN SHOULD NEVER LEAVE KITCHEN

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,520

@357,517 (A)
Probably, but I dont know how. I feel like we would have to completely overhaul our current educational system.

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,521

@357,519 (F)
But what about men who like to bake?

Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,523

@previous (A)
FAGS

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,524

@357,521 (A)
Peer enforcing gender roles, hurts men as well. But males still do it. Funny that.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,528

@previous (C)
But what if they like to bake?

@357,523 (F)
But what about men who like to play American Football?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,531

@previous (A)
Then they have that choice. Its harmful to men to imply that they're gay or not manly enough for knowing how to perform simple household tasks.

Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,532

@357,528 (A)
HAND EGG IS FOR FAGS

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,533

@357,523 (F)
Ha!

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,534

@357,531 (C)
Shouldn't everyone by now know how to perform simple household tasks?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #357,535

@previous (A)
yes, but we shouldnt be calling them gay because of it. That's just another way that men hurt other men.

(Edited 33 seconds later.)

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 19 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #357,782

@357,531 (C)
It's harmful for men to imply gay is unmasculine. Didn't really stop you from doing it though.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #357,791

@previous (H)
I dont do it, and call other people out for suggesting it. Thanks.

Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,818

@357,531 (C)

> Its harmful to men to imply that they're gay or not manly enough for knowing how to perform simple household tasks.

Becomes either:

> Its harmful to men to imply that they're gay for knowing how to perform simple household tasks.

or:

> Its harmful to men to imply that they're not manly enough for knowing how to perform simple household tasks.

Choose one. Mashing them into a single thought like you did suggests gay ~= not manly.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,821

@previous (H)
Its both. Gay men are no more likely to be able to perform simple chores. He was implying that knowing these things makes someone gay, and that being gay is objectionable. Men use gay as an insult against other men, because it feminizes them and also implies that any deviations from typical gender roles is objectionable. Which hurts all men. Thanks.

(Edited 24 seconds later.)

(◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,844

Humanities and gender studies truly matters.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,850

@previous ((◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc)
They do. People use percieved gender roles to hurt both men and women.

(◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,858

@previous (C)
Well, I do see the merit in giving girls "boy" toys like LEGO bricks and chemistry sets and BB guns, but boys don't need worthlless Barbie dolls

beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc replied with this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,859

@previous ((◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc)
No one needs Barbie dolls. They're terrible.

(◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,861

@previous (beckyderp !CaTLdYmooc)
I agree. They are literally worthless. Girls need interest in STEM too

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,864

@357,858 ((◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc)
Its not just about toys. Typically, man arent encouraged to be artistic, express emotions, perform simple household chores, dress in gender atypical fashions, be attracted to the same sex, etc. In fact, they're often shamed for these things, which is hurtful.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 54 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,865

@357,858 ((◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc)
Also, boys are heavily encouraged from a young age to use violence to solve disputes. Which doesnt work out very well for them in the long run.

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,866

@357,861 ((◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc)
Yes; some recipes are very complex.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,867

@previous (J)
Things like this dont help, because it also implies that men cant or shouldnt become chefs or bakers, because those roles are feminine and being feminine is innapropriate.

(◣_◢)┌∩┐ !ZZZYzLybAc replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,869

@357,866 (J)
Chemistry is basically a bunch of complex recipes.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #357,881

@357,470 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
By taking to black dicks at once in the arse.

squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,270

@previous (K)
she's actually quite racist, so no.

advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 50 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,284

Everybody likes to think that somebody else has it better off than they do.

Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,286

@previous (advi !!3gpAcg/hF)
"If the grass is greener on the other side, then the guy with the greener grass doesn't think your grass is greener now does he, asshole?"
"I'm sure there are millionaires crying themselves to sleep every night because they don't live in a trailer park. Just face it: sometimes nobody envies you. There has to be a bottom and that bottom is probably you."
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=boiling_blood

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,287

@previous (I)
Are there millionaires who cry themselves to sleep because they don't live in a trailer park?

Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,292

@previous (A)
Maybe some redneck millionaires.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,293

@previous (I)
But what about the more stereotypical classy millionaires?

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,296

Image went missing@358,287 (A)
http://abcnews.go.com/US/millionaires-apparent-courtroom-suicide-investigation/story?id=16679079#.UIH-iYYgn0c

Millionaires do commit suicide. This one did as he was pronounced Guilty of murder.

10 more Millionaires who did that self death deed.

http://www.businesspundit.com/10-millionaire-businessmen-who-committed-suicide/

At least a few can be found living in a trailer park who had over a million and one I remember from news last year was a natural death. Woman lived as if broke.

advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #358,332

@358,286 (I)
This is a very stupid thing to say. Rich people have problems, too. Even if they're, you know, rich people problems.
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