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Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later[^][v]#356,027
what took them so long if they're gonna do it?
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#356,029
@previous (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
there's a couple of appeals and some legal garbage the state makes itself go through to ensure the person is indeed guilty and sane. or in some cases the person totally gets off the hook 2 fucking days before. fuck
so anyway, what'da y'all think about executing cop killers? agree, disagree?
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#356,033
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
6 Viewed this and one voted - Me me Me
squeegee?????????????????????????
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#356,035
@previous (C)
are you really for the death sentence syntax
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 51 minutes after the original post[^][v]#356,038
@356,033 (C)
no, i haven't voted yet. playing it close to the chest on this one.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^][v]#356,041
Why do cops enjoy so much special treatment in the USA? They treat people like dogs, shoot down niggas that are just pulling out their cellphones (and they dont shoot into legs/shoulders, they shoot to kill), treat skaters like criminals etc.
But when one of them.gets shot, electric chair.
If it was a cop shot in most parts of Europe (Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Austria... etc...) where cops are actually your friends and helpers, sure... but amerifat cops that are rednecks on power trips cause they got badges... pfft...
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,042
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
you've never even met an american cop. how can you generalize like that? did you see it on the TV or something?
edit: and all i know about european cops is that they dress like sissies and carry rubber dildos to hit people with. i don't even think they're allowed to have guns. (except germany, they carry assault rifles all over the airport.)
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TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,044
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
Whenever there is a competition/random friends fly over and we go to ride I see how they poop their pants when they see cops. It's like PTSP flashbacks hahaha... they usually need a few days to relax.
And the stories they told me/videos they showed me of cops abusing bmx riders/skaters. I'm the first to say "I hate to generalize" but USA riders come here traumatized hahaha
Edit: they carry a gun all over Europe, they just aint as trigger happy as your buddies in the states.
Edit2: dress like sissies? Elaborate please... cuse they dress like cops, nothing special, but nothing sissy...
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Syntax replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,046
@356,035 (doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ)
100% in favor. They need to fry them with 10KV at 1000 Amps.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,047
@previous (Syntax)
You'd need a flux capacitor to power that :3
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,048
@356,044 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
how do they stop crime? by yelling? look, you europeans are just now getting a taste of the whole immigration and racial mixology thing. you're got "new" niggers and can be soft on crime. but once they set in, get a couple of generation down the road and all those immigrant nigger grandchildren start feeling entitled you'll start to tighten up on your loitering laws. we still periodically have crazy niggers doing drive-bys with machine guns near downtown dallas. we have to put around 2 million people in jail every year!
yeah our cops are the toughest sons-of-bitches in the world,
we're armed fucking maniacs over here!
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,053
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
oh wow hahahaha... thanks man, I almost took you serious... lol 10/10 bud :D
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,055
@356,047 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Naw that's just regular ordinary substation level stuff. Not even nuff to dim the lights near by you.
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#356,056
postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,063
Death penalty is too belated, I mean after that many years, it has kind of lost its punch. This person isn't the same person he was in 98', no one is.
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,068
@previous (postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
Life in prison can be enjoyably according to Charles Manson.
Norway has a new prison with saunas, sunbeds and deckchairs.
Pine forests, located right on the ocean front for swimming and fishing along the five miles of pebble beaches, or playing on the tennis courts and football pitch; and recuperating later on sunbeds and in a sauna, a cinema room, a band rehearsal room and expansive library.
Murderers and other violent offenders, have access to knives, axes and even chainsaws for their various jobs, with no guards looking on. on what is trumpeted as the world's first self-sustaining 'Ecological Prison.'
Their commune has handsomely furnished bungalows with cable TV. The residents eat together in an attractively spacious canteen thoughtfully decorated with Norwegian art. The centrepiece is a striking 10ft long model of a Norwegian merchant ship."
postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,071
He's trying to make you think "Wow these are criminals and they live better than me" and you are supposed to get butthurt or something
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,078
@356,075 (postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
I was responding to > Death penalty is too belated, I mean after that many years, it has kind of lost its punch. This person isn't the same person he was in 98', no one is.
It could go in 2 logical directions. Either he's making the point that prisoners are treated too well. Which is a silly emotional point. Or he's saying that Norweigh seems to do okay,and they aren't treating their prisoners poorly, and so maybe there's something to that.
postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,081
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,084
@previous (postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
Yea contrast. I see the positives of execution as well as the pain of life in prison. Charles Manson says he does not want out. Recent interview he said he gets all the sex he needs and more. His cell mates probably put on wigs and lip stick for him. He says the food is good lol
Years ago for a work thing I spent 3 days at San Quintin by invite of warden. Nothing and I mean nothing in movies or TV comes close to how horrid that place is. Three days and I never saw a prisoner smile.
That prison is located at the edge of a bay with world class views. State is real dumb for locating it with great world class views.
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ replied with this 14 years ago, 10 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#356,167
@356,057 (C)
why do you believe death sentence is a good thing?
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 days later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#356,569
The district court set forth the relevant facts as follows:
At around 10:30 p.m. on May 22, 1998, off-duty Houston Police Department Officer Kent Kincaid and his wife left their home in a private vehicle on their way to meet some friends at a sports bar. As they drove past a truck driven by Haynes, something hit and cracked the Kincaid[s’] windshield. Officer Kincaid thought someone threw a rock at his car; Haynes had actually fired a shot at them.
Officer Kincaid turned his car around and followed Haynes’ vehicle until the two pulled along side each other.
Officer Kincaid exited his vehicle, approached Haynes whore mained sitting in his truck, and said “You hit my window.â€
Haynes replied, “I accidentally threw something at your window.â€
Officer Kincaid said, “I am a police officer. Let's talk about it.†After asking for Haynes’ license, [O]fficer Kincaid reached towards his back pocket, presumably to retrieve his police identification. Haynes lifted up a pistol, shot [O]fficer Kincaid in the head, and fled the scene. Officer Kincaid died a few hours later.
The police soon arrested Haynes. Haynes confessed to [O]fficer Kincaid's murder. The State of Texas charged Haynes with the capital murder of a peace officer who was “acting in the lawful discharge of an official duty[.]†Tex. Penal Code § 19.03(a) (1). A jury convicted Haynes of capital murder. After a separate punishment hearing, the jury answered Texas’s special issues in a manner requiring the imposition of a death sentence. Haynes unsuccessfully sought state appellate and habeas relief from his conviction and sentence.
squeegee !firstkPE1Q (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 4 days later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#357,981
less than three hours to go. i wonder what he's thinking about right now?
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#357,983
HUNTSVILLE, TX -- The U.S. Supreme Court stopped the execution Thursday of a 33-year-old Texas prisoner for gunning down an off-duty Houston police sergeant 14 years ago.
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Anthony Haynes had been set to die for the shooting death of Sgt. Kent Kincaid, 40, while the officer was with his wife driving in their own vehicle not far from home. Their SUV had been struck by an object from a pickup truck, cracking its windshield. When Kincaid got out to talk to the people in the truck and told them he was a police officer, he was shot in the head.
The high court ruling came about three hours before Haynes could have been taken to the death chamber.
Haynes confessed to the May 1998 slaying, was tried for capital murder the following year and sentenced to death.
His lethal injection would have been the 11th this year in Texas, the nation's most-active death penalty state. Another is set for next week.
Evidence showed the object that hit the Kincaids' SUV was a .25-caliber bullet from the same gun used to shoot him. Testimony at Haynes' 1999 trial in Houston showed that same evening Haynes had committed a series of armed robberies.
Haynes' trial lawyers showed "virtual abdication of their duty" by failing to more fully investigate and present evidence of Haynes' good character to jurors who were deciding his punishment, his appeals attorney, A. Richard Ellis, told the high court in his appeal.
He also contended prosecutors unfairly painted Haynes, who was 19 at the time of the shooting, "as an out-of-control, violent and unpredictable individual who was subject to intermittent fits of rage."
"This picture was totally at variance with his actual character," Ellis said.
The appeal also faulted attorneys at earlier stages of Haynes' appeals for not addressing the trial defense issues and contended lower court rulings and Texas appeals procedures unfairly kept Haynes from raising the claims now. Similar appeals in recent Texas death penalty cases have failed to win reprieves from the high court although at least one other did. That case, involving prisoner John Balentine, is set for conference before the justices for later this month.
The arguments center on a Supreme Court ruling favorable to an Arizona prisoner who couldn't find a way to make an appeal under procedures in that state. Texas attorneys argued the statutes in Texas were different, did allow for appeals like the one Haynes wanted considered and that courts had determined the Arizona ruling had no effect in Texas.
State attorneys contesting Hayne's appeal argued his previous attorneys didn't abandon him and shouldn't be considered ineffective because they chose issues different from those now being pursued by Ellis.
"Haynes does not now present any compelling reasons for this court to review his claims," Jeremy Greenwell, an assistant Texas attorney general, told the justices.
Greenwell pointed out evidence of Haynes' history of explosive temper outbursts, of police being summoned to deal with his threats against a school nurse and an ROTC instructor, that he assaulted his 3-year-old sister and tried to kill the family dog.
"He was no angel," Mark Vinson, the Harris County district attorney who prosecuted Haynes, recalled last week.
Kincaid's wife couldn't describe the shooter and provided only a cursory description of the truck but said she was certain her husband identified himself as a police officer, a distinction important in that it allowed prosecutors to try Haynes for capital murder and make him death-penalty eligible. Haynes' trial lawyers said he didn't know the man who approached was an officer and feared for his own safety.
One of the robbery victims earlier the evening of the shooting identified a companion of Haynes as participating in the holdup, and that led detectives to Haynes. He took police to separate sites miles apart where he left the gun and ammunition clip.
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buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#357,987
@357,981 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
he's probably thinking that he shouldnt have shot that cop.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,030
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
or thinking he had hoped that it was just a regular person and not an actual police officer.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,033
@356,041 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
I feel for any emergency worker killed in the line of duty. EMS, firefighters, nurses, animal control, etc.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,035
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,039
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
i'm sure there's some latent racism involved in there. i mean being non-white and naturally distrusting anyone who may or may not be a police officer. on both ends, i guess.
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,040
@previous (J)
I naturally distrust police officers.
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,041
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
well, sure, but i suppose what i mean is do you think this mexican man would have pulled a firearm if the man had been black or also hispanic?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,042
@previous (J)
I think that it has less to do with race, and more with fear of retribution. Before the cop was killed, Haynes shot a bullet into his car. He was then approached by one of its passengers.
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Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,043
@previous (buspup !!x+kkCmnF4)
do you naturally distrust any and/or all authority figures?
buspup !!x+kkCmnF4 replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,044
@previous (J)
no, because most dont have the power to arrest me, cuff me, and rough me up before throwing my ass in a cell.
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,046
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,180
Sorry y'all, this is getting embarrassing. I don't know what's wrong.
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,250
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
Not holding you to fire but when I looked at your time stamp vs court shit. US Super court on the same day said Off with his head. But short time latter legal beagles for cop killer came up with a more better argument to keep his head on for a while anyway
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#358,259
@previous (C)
Well, TBH i'm not staying on top of the latest news regarding these guys. In texas, usually, when we say were going to execute somone you can trust it's going to happen. This is all highly irregular.