Topic: Hey can we keep confused and beguiled Catholic priests from being tricked by little kids?
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago#22,566
Many people believe that they have unstoppable urges, that prevent them from using self control around sexy sinning toddlers. How can we keep them safe from these slutty child menaces? I mean even the most righteous man (mountainman) was seduced by a teenaged Jezebel, inside his own place of worship. What can we do to prevent these underage serpents from corrupting our godly moral leaders?
Fr. Benedict Groeschel, Catholic Legend: In Some Sex Abuse Cases, Teenager is the ‘Seducer’
National Catholic Register published this week, Fr. Benedict Groeschel, the 78-year-old founder of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal, said that in some priest sex abuse cases, the teen – not the priest — “is the seducer.â€
Groeschel made the startling comments after being asked about his work with priests accused of sexual abuse:
“People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to — a psychopath. But that’s not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster — 14, 16, 18 — is the seducer.â€
Groeschel, seen at right with New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, then puzzlingly discussed intimacy between priests and minors in terms of “heterosexual†and “homosexual†and said that intolerance of relationships between men and boys is a relatively new phenomenon, even citing the case of convicted pedophile Jerry Sandusky (because, after all, at the time when Sandusky began molesting boys, society just looked the other way):
Here’s this poor guy — [Penn State football coach Jerry] Sandusky — it went on for years. Interesting: Why didn’t anyone say anything? Apparently, a number of kids knew about it and didn’t break the ice. Well, you know, until recent years, people did not register in their minds that it was a crime. It was a moral failure, scandalous; but they didn’t think of it in terms of legal things.
If you go back 10 or 15 years ago with different sexual difficulties — except for rape or violence — it was very rarely brought as a civil crime. Nobody thought of it that way. Sometimes statutory rape would be — but only if the girl pushed her case. Parents wouldn’t touch it. People backed off, for years, on sexual cases. I’m not sure why. . .
At this point, (when) any priest, any clergyman, any social worker, any teacher, any responsible person in society would become involved in a single sexual act — not necessarily intercourse — they’re done.
And I’m inclined to think, on their first offense, they should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime.
Astonishing, right? But Fr. Groeschel isn’t just some random friar running off at the mouth in a secluded monastery somewhere — he’s actually something of a Catholic rockstar. When I was a teenager in Green Bay, Wisconsin running away from my sexuality, I worked in a Catholic bookstore where we couldn’t restock Groeschel’s dozens of books fast enough. Despite his advanced age, Fr. Groeschel is in high demand for speaking gigs, spiritual direction, and religious retreats across the country. And he’s even got his own television show on the Eternal Word Television Network. (For those of you who don’t know, EWTN is the traditionalist Catholic equivalent of the evangelical Trinity Broadcasting Network.)
So yeah, this is kind of a big deal in the Catholic world, especially because Groeschel was one of the relatively few figures who was admired to some degree by conservatives (for his views on reproductive rights and homosexuality) and liberals (for his work in other social justice and civil rights issues). It’s just a thought, but Groeschel’s fans may want to re-evaluate their opinion about a man who would make such outrageous excuses for predatory priests.
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Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,573
@354,570 (D)
I liked some teenage girls when I was a teenager. CALL THE COPS
Anonymous B double-posted this 14 years ago, 19 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,574
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,578
@354,572 (F)
I love how this is supposed to be a moral leader. Our church teaches that premarital sex and homosex is wrong,but people really shouldnt make a stink about it.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,584
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,702
@previous (B)
Well you must have thought it was a good idea, because you did it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,703
@previous (G)
He also thinks that every Catholic priest was seduced by their victims, and that if molested children end up fucked in the head, it's the fault of society not the scumbag child rapist.
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,708
@354,702 (G)
It doesn't mean that I think the concept it universally a good idea.
Anonymous B double-posted this 14 years ago, 59 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,709
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 10 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,710
@354,708 (B)
Oh so it is acceptable for you to groom children, but for other people it is not okay? Typical pedo rationalization. Keep being inconsistent.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,711
@354,709 (B)
We've had multiple discussions about this. Isnt lying a sin?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,712
@354,710 (G)
He also defended Bartie Freeman for days. Saying that he didnt ruin his daughter's life by fucking her on camera, and distributing it. Society caused her pain.
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,713
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,714
Just saying, in an organization that demonizes homo sex, shouldnt parents not have to worry about "celibate" priests buttfucking their underage children?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,715
Also, if these poor priests keep being bamboozled by these sneaky, sneaky little boys, than shouldnt they be kept away from them for their own protection? Why are these easily tricked moral pillars given so many chances to be fooled again?
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,717
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,719
@previous (H)
Did you ever see that documentary about the poor priest who was seduced by around 400 brown children in Alaska? They sent some higher up to offer apologies, and even he was like "I don't know why the fuck I'm here, these people are whiner babies".
(Edited 51 seconds later.)
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,720
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,734
@354,719 (A)
I tried to get MM to watch it, but he refused. He then went on to state that threatening a child with violence, hell fire, and loss of family are all appropriate ways to convince a kid to fuck you.
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 37 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,742
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 19 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,767
@354,763 (B)
You said that Freeman was a slut, who should have kept her mouth shut. You also said that child molesters (referring to Bartie Freeman) should be shunned by the community and not arrested. You then said that if child molestors arent ostracized by their peers, that the sex act against the child was not abuse.
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#354,768
@previous (A)
I'm beginning to think that you aren't trolling and that you actually believe what you are saying.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,773
@previous (B)
You never said that child molestors should be shunned instead of arrested?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,774
Remember when you defended those rabbis that had given babys herpes, when they cut and sucked blood from their litte ping a ligns?
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,775
@354,674 (B)
So a guy spending a lot of time around a young girl, in a place that they both go to anyway, automatically leads to accusations of pedophilia? Bullshit. You must have done something to earn that "friendly nickname".
What'd you do, then?
@354,767 (A)
Whew. Thought you were talking about Gordon Freeman for a second there. Of mm had hone after him then he'd really be going too far.
(Edited 36 seconds later.)
Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,780
@354,773 (A)
I was asked for alternatives. I offered the traditional solution that was practiced by our nation until the 19th century.
Anonymous B double-posted this 14 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,781
@354,774 (A)
That never happened. I merely asked for context regarding herpes transmission rates during circumcision.
Anonymous B triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,782
@354,775 (D)
I didn't do anything. Possibly someone said I liked someone and I didn't deny it? I don't know. I can't remember.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,808
@354,780 (B)
You were not asked for alternatives. You bitched about people calling the cops, and said that if a community doesnt shun a molestor, than he did nothing wrong.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,810
@354,781 (B)
How does that even make sense? kids dont get herpes from hospital circumsicions! You said that to downplay these little boys dying from herpes, when they were exposed to rabbis' dirty mouths.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,821
Those bastard little gay choir boys, I can imagine how they seduce the poor, defenseless priests. Grinding their little butts right up against the priests unaroused crotches, sucking on bananas whilst making eye contact with the priests, doing everything they could to enchant the priest until he finally snaps... "Wha... what are you doing father?" "Don't act like you don't want it little Jimmy. Put it in your mouth" "But fa-" "Shut up and suck it. That's it."
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,922
@354,808 (A)
Why not just link to the thread? Put this "debate" to rest?
Anonymous K double-posted this 14 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,923
@354,810 (A) > kids dont get herpes from hospital circumsicions!
Source?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,925
@354,922 (K)
You've done it over three boards. laghouls in particular. The people here dont have to believe me. They just have to be entertained.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,926
@354,923 (K)
You cant catch herpes from a scalpel. damn. lol
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,933
@354,925 (A)
How convenient. I said terrible things on a board that has been deleted so we'll just have to take your word for it.
Anonymous K double-posted this 14 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,934
Also, prove the Jew caused herpes, don't merely correlate them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,942
@previous (K)
If?! Tell me what other ways do hospitals perform circumsicions, that can transmit herpes to a baby?
Also Jews dont cause the herpes, a rabbi who has herpes gives it to the kid when he sucks blood from the penis.
Are you slow or something?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#354,943
Oh man, this was a good thread. I'm screencapping this shit.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#354,953
@354,942 (A)
Perhaps the instruments are not always sterilized correctly? Perhaps they get infected later by other sources through the wound? Are you autistic or trolling?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#354,978
@previous (K)
Show me any case of that happenng. You are such a religion enabling sack of shit. Show us one instance of a child catching herpes from a scalpel.
(Edited 20 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#354,979
@354,953 (K)
Babys are dying from catching herpes from dirty old men, yet you argue "but wait, some freak accident might have made them catch herpes anyway!" Fuck you. You sicken me.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,046
@354,978 (A)
I'm not making claims. I'm disputing your claims. You can give up your claims, or you can prove them with evidence.
Anonymous L double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,047
@354,979 (A) > millennia old tradition > dirty old men
Antisemite detected
doctor dreamworks md !jdTkvovFCQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,050
Op are you buspuppie?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,053
@355,047 (L)
"dirty" because they're carrying std's and transmitting them to children you pathetic shit stack.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,054
@355,046 (L)
You've disputed nothing. You're a religion apologist and think that adults can do whatever the fuck they want with children, because then it becomes society's problem.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,056
Show us one instance where someone has caught herpes from a scalpel during a circumcision.
squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,059
a simple solution would be to genetically modify all of our children to prevent them from becoming pedophiles.
or maybe some kind of inoculation.
and once it's set in there's got to be some kind of corrective "therapy," like brain surgery or electroshock, and in the future maybe even something like laser-shock-proton therapy to zap the pedo out of the phile.
maybe zap him into a nice healthy fixation, like feet, or bondage or pissing on people.
really anything but raping children.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,060
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
this isnt about rape, but public health hazards.
squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,061
@previous (A)
tomato, tomatoe, whatever gets the job done.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,069
Anonymous K triple-posted this 14 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,071
@355,059 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
They should to this for people under a certain IQ (whatever 1 point above your IQ is)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,073
@355,069 (K)
these arent false accusations you pedo retard, These booys have died from catching the rabbi herpes. you dont care about how adults hurt chidren, and why would you? That's societys issue.
No wonder you've made so many posts defending molesty priests and Barty Freeman. Sick and sad.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,074
@previous (A) > my libel against the jews is real!!111
Let met guess, this is part of a conspiracy to weaken the Aryan race?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,075
@previous (K)
Real court cases isnt libel. Its the truth, which doesnt fit in with your religious decadence. Keep defending your Priests, rabbis, warren jeffs, whatever. Then make some threads about how pedophiles love children.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,077
@previous (A)
Was he found guilty of transmitting herpes?
Anonymous K double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,078
@previous (K) > TRANSMISSION OF ORAL HERPES VIRUS TO CHILDREN: > Most people have been infected by oral herpes before they reach adulthood. The oral herpes virus has been detected in the blood and saliva of children who have an active herpes infection. Children contract oral herpes having by having infected saliva touch their oral soft tissue or skin wounds.
> Transmission may occur by: > kissing an infected child or adult, eating with contaminated utensils, mouthing or playing with contaminated toys, using a contaminated toothbrush, and exposure to another child with who has an oral herpes infection. Many children contract oral herpes by sucking on contaminated toys that have been used by infected children. Day care is notorious for spreading the oral herpes virus.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,084
@previous (K)
Those arent statisitcs for newborns and genital herpes, you fucking tool. Herpes kills babies . People can pass oral and genital herpes with their mouths. Learn to research.
How Is Herpes (Oral or Genital) Spread?
HSV-1 is usually passed from person to person by kissing. HSV-1 can also spread from the mouth to the genitals during oral sex (fellatio, cunnilingus, analingus). If this happens, it becomes a case of genital herpes.
HSV-2 is most often passed by vaginal sex and anal sex. But just as HSV-1 can infect the genitals and cause genital herpes, HSV-2 can pass from one person's genitals to another person's mouth, resulting in oral herpes.
HSV-2 cannot survive long on a non-living surface, so there is no real risk of getting it from a toilet seat or hot tub, for example, or a scalpel.
At eight days of life, the twins were circumcised by mohel A, who performed direct orogenital suction. At 16 days of life, both twins were evaluated for fever and lesions on their abdomen, buttocks and perineum, including the genitals,†said the CDC report.
Both twins tested positive for HSV-1 infection. The twin who was circumcised first died from the spreading infection.
Their mother had no history of oral or genital herpes and no genital lesions at or after delivery, which is when herpes transmission to an infant typically occurs.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 14 years ago, 41 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#355,089
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#355,151
@previous (D)
yes I am. Dont you like how the brain of a mountainman works? Here you have babies without herpes, and their parents dont have herpes either. A rabbi cuts on their penis, sucks out blood, and the baby catches herpes. The Rabbi has tested positive, but that doesnt mean that he gave it the the children.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#355,239
@355,147 (D)
No, I said I can't remember the exact circumstances that I acquired the nickname "pedo" amongst the kids
@355,133 (A)
I'll be so happy when you start heeding logic and evidence.
@previous (A) > The Rabbi has tested positive
Source?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#355,243
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#355,260
@previous (A)
The al arabiya one? There are several different incidents so I'm having trouble keeping up.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 7 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#355,395
@previous (K)
My god... Mountainman doesn't have an answer to something!
Quick, everyone, he's weak! Pile on!
@355,239 (K)
Why do you think that might be? Maybe acting inappropriately around the children?
You're either in denial or a shitty liar.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#355,406
@previous (D)
Depends what you mean by acting inappropriately, but possibly.
Anonymous K double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#355,407
@355,395 (D)
In the American sources I've read it said the mohel hadn't undergone a test, the Arabic one says he has and he was positive. Not willing to believe that without a confirmation.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 40 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#355,413
100 get!
@355,406 (K) @previous (K)
I'll get back to arguing with you when I have more time. Thank you for your patience.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 8 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#355,457
@355,407 (K)
lol thats religion for you. I love making awesome threads to screen cap for later.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 12 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#355,624
@previous (A)
religion is not believing things without proof?