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Topic: Experimenting with marijuana and lucid dreams

jump !VIfloDyEYo started this discussion 15 years ago #2,219

I'm gonna stop smoking for a few days, maybe longer. I plan to take advantage of an increased period of REM sleep which happens after cessation of marijuana use.

I will be recording my experience and hope to use this to develop a REM/weed cycle.

If anyone has interest, I'll bump this topic with reports each day.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later[^] [v] #40,533

It'll be mostly placebo. In my experience the REM rebound isn't that noticeable.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,536

Stop smoking weed, and start taking acid before sleep.

I remember reading about how acid increased REM sleep by a lot.

(then again, you don't really need to get to sleep for this).

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brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,537

@previous (C)
lol, have you ever tried to sleep while on acid? It's not easy.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,538

@40,536 (C)
@previous (brie !OudrPWaUDQ)
It's easier to sleep on meth.

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,541

@40,537 (brie !OudrPWaUDQ)
It keeps me up, but if you can get acid a sedative shouldn't be hard to find.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,543

@previous (C)
Yeah because sedatives help with dream vividness so much /sarcasm

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,545

@40,538 (B)
Lolno. I did a bump of that once, and couldn't stay still for too long. It would be easier on acid.

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jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,548

@40,536 (C)
a very small amount of acid, maybe. you arent getting to sleep otherwise.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,556

LOL, AFAIK you DR will go down the drain after a few nights of increased intensity.

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #40,563

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
DR? dream recall?


i dont see that as a negative. I mean, I would expect equal pleasure equal plain sort of thing.

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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #40,701

Lose the drugs. Fasting is superior for inducing hallucinogenic states.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,021

@previous (F)
Indeed lol. I once had a grey out while standing in the subway because id hadnt eaten that day. Shit was crazy, I started feeling light headed and gradually my vision started going white, until i couldnt see anything for about a minute or so. I started to get a cold sweat and I was trying to keep myself from passing out. After that minute my vision started to turn back to normal, but for about 30 seconds after everything still looked really bright. It was crazy, but also in the back of my mind i was like, damn this shit is trippy and i was trying to enjoy the ride lol.

Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,027

@previous (G)

I used to get those occasionally. Nobody knows why though.

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,128

@40,701 (F)
Lol 10/10 bud.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,143

@40,548 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Can you get your hands on that?

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,151

Day 1. Shitty shitty sleep. No recollection of dreams.

@previous (I)
I wish.

henn !NePD4JH0HI joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,152

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Do you have a dream journal?

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,154

@previous (henn !NePD4JH0HI)
Yea. Havebt actually written in it yet. I never give myself enough time after I wake. Gonna try to now.

Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,159

@41,151 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Same lol.

henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,161

@41,154 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
They really help. Keep it by your bed on the floor or nightstand.

Also, try try to find your Dream Guide.

This helps too throughout the night:
http://www.here-be-dreams.com/lucid/spin.html
http://www.here-be-dreams.com/

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,164

@previous (henn !NePD4JH0HI)
Yea I know the spin trick (it works great) and I rub my hands together, but spinning is a lot more effective).

henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,165

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Have you found your DG yet?

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,166

@41,164 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
What's the spin trick?

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,243

@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
If you find yourself waking up in a Lucid dream, if you spin, or fall back or rub your hands together, it throws you back into the dream fully.

Almost without fail. The spinning trick has always worked for me. Rubbing your hands is about 50/50. I've never tried falling back. Spinning is more effective from what I have read.

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,245

@41,165 (henn !NePD4JH0HI)
I didn't know I should be looking for one.

I will try to find it next time.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,250

@41,243 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I've never heard of that before. Unfortunately, I am unable to lucid dream or astrally project.

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 41 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,275

@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
I'm sorry. Do you dream?

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #41,288

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I do.

Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,468

I tried to access the 419 astrally to hang out with /x/ people, but it didn't work. I don't think I invoked whatever thing I was supposed to be invoking.

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,481

@previous (Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp.)
I've never been able to accomplish this. I've tried to meet Matt several times.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,491

@40,563 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)

> DR? dream recall?
>
Ya... I'm just accustomed to the lingo.

Another dreamer used Calea in combination with a low dose of Salvia, and I remever having read about that combo elsewhere as well~

Nega !34Kas0OdzM double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,497

@41,468 (Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp.)
@41,481 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
You need a very distinct (simple yet unique) place, otherwise it has NO chance to work even IF Shared Dreaming were real.

Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,499

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)

How does it work?

totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,500

@41,497 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Can you give me some more tips about this?

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,617

Yes, sure.

To synchronize the dreams, a common idea has to be present in the mind of the Dreamers.

This can be a single room, a house or a whole floating island, but like technology, psionics only become more susceptible to failure the more complex your creations become.

I would suggest using a simple template that is present in everybody's mind (like a clearing in a dense forest) and adding distinctive landmarks to it (a bright red Obelisk in its center, engraved with burning symbols) to make the place both common enough to be easily remembered, and unique enough to be easily distinguished from similar locations.

Now if you intend to meet up with your Circle, all you need to do is make sure the concept and feel of the meeting place's key features are fresh on their minds and hope they become lucid enough to seek it out.

Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,629

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)

This 419 wasn't really described. There is a cube in the middle, though, to talk to the demon or whatever.

Neiya replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,658

@previous (Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp.)
FAIL.
Tell them that "it has a cube in the middle" is too little information even for the Material Plane.

Ash Ketchup * !bbKEtchUp. replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #41,696

@previous (Neiya)

ok. it was on a picture I saw on /x/.

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #42,477

Day 3 report

I recall my dream as much as I usually do. I did not become lucid, even though cartoon characters were present. Fail.

I'm having a lot of trouble getting to sleep from the withdrawal. Sucks hard.

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #42,479

what happened to that game you were gonna make?

i doubt this experimentation is going to take off swimmingly in light of this information you will hopefully provide in response to the question I've posed

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #42,481

@previous (M)
I'm incapable of doing it alone.

I wish it were possible though. I really like the idea.

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wilson !LiZaRDS8Jc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #42,484

FWIW, DXM has been making me lucid dream without even trying

Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #42,490

@42,481 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
oh, that's right... from what i can remember, you were asking for help in areas of your idea in which you had no knowledge of. fucking terrible. i, too, really liked the idea

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #43,576

Had many dreams last night, but never got lucid =(

Tried WILD and was not successful. felt very strange though for sitting still so long.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #43,580

Did you try to WILD in the evening or in the morning?
Because if you did the former I'd have to call you out for making one of the most common n00b mistakes ever. ;-)

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 52 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #43,586

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
I did it after sleeping for a bit. I was following what all the guides said was the easiest method.

jump !VIfloDyEYo (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 5 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #48,498

It's been a week. I've been having amazingly epic and vivid dreams. Never lucid though.

I remember the dreams pretty clearly.

Example - get really nice hotel room in a spa, invite my friend over. 2 prostitutes are in room so I remove them while trying to act like I didn't who they were, but they treated me like a close friend. I didn't really know who they were. Then I was chasing someone in a speedboat and it became the final star wars movie, but star wars was incomplete. to make sure no other movies could he made, we were including all the wizard of oz references. Which included that wizard from he-man. He turned into an instrument when with his "people." They played a little song.

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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #48,524

@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Kids, this is your brain on drugs, even when it has been off drugs for a week.

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