An Australian importer recalled about 23,000 Chinese cars after a government probe found asbestos in engine and exhaust gaskets, setting back a Chinese auto industry eager to sell cars in developed markets.
The disclosure comes as China’s domestic auto makers look abroad for new markets.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#341,735
So what? Asbestos is a perfectly good and safe fire-resistant material. Only the liberal US safety Nazis have made a bad thing out of it. Asbestos is a very useful material.
Gil !z9/naRmOr. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#341,736
@previous (D)
Mesothelioma would like a word with you.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#341,738
@previous (Gil !z9/naRmOr.)
That shit occurs when tons of the fibers are huffed into lungs. People who demolish buildings with asbestos, yeah, I agree, they get cancer, and it is wrong. But a fucking car with one asbestos gasket, is nothing like that.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#341,743
@previous (D)
Workers install them. Repair people remove them.
Lawyers love them!
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#341,746
@previous (A)
I hardly think a single automobile gasket constitutes a danger to society.
bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,749
@previous (D)
What about an industry who ignores safety concerns in order to save a few tenths of a cent on building materials. That constitutes a danger, no?
Gil !z9/naRmOr. replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,751
@341,738 (D)
It is an unsafe material. And I doubt the workers who install them, who more than likely make so little money that it's practically slave labor, and the people who maintain the vehicles, are wearing proper breathing protection. Workplace safety is unimportant to a country who gives less than half a shit about their people.
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W replied with this 14 years ago, 2 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,752
@341,749 (bookshelf !hbZVTk6JYc)
If that is actually the case, then yes, of course. But I hardly think a car with a single asbestos gasket, is any danger to anyone.
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W double-posted this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,754
@341,751 (Gil !z9/naRmOr.)
It is only an unsafe material is you pulverize it and inhale it. Just about ANY material is unsafe in that context.
Gil !z9/naRmOr. replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,757
@341,752 (Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W)
But it's not one car, it's more than 20,000. Probably more than that, those are just the ones that are acknowledged. There could be double that number, maybe even triple, with these unsafe gaskets in them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,760
@341,754 (Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W)
Chinks have a history of using poison in food & manufacturing.
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,761
@341,757 (Gil !z9/naRmOr.)
Dude, one gasket in a car is not dangerous. You would have to take a chainsaw to that gasket, pulverize it, and intentionally huff the fibers to have any damage.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,762
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W replied with this 14 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,767
@previous (Gil !z9/naRmOr.)
Why aren't you concerned with the many other dangerous materials that are in cars?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,768
@341,764 (Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W)
Inhalation of asbestos fibers can cause serious illnesses, including malignant lung cancer, mesothelioma (a formerly rare cancer strongly associated with exposure to amphibole asbestos), and asbestosis (a type of pneumoconiosis). The European Union has banned all use of asbestos and extraction, manufacture and processing of asbestos products.
Source Wiki
Gil !z9/naRmOr. replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,770
@341,761 (Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W) > chainsaw
Or just let it disintegrate over time.
Chinese auto manufacturer detected.
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W replied with this 14 years ago, 7 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,771
@341,768 (A)
Sorry, but "Wiki" is hardly a scholarly source. Asbestos is dangerous if the fibers are inhaled. Having a car with one internal gasket is hardly fdangrous.
Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W double-posted this 14 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,772
@341,770 (Gil !z9/naRmOr.)
Why aren't you concerned that US made cars belch out carcinogenic fumes from their exhausts?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,773
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Gil !z9/naRmOr. replied with this 14 years ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,774
@341,772 (Sharice Turnipseed !!kY395Mj0W)
Because its not relevant to this thread.
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,784
Asbestos is one of the best insulators out there. It's a shame that it's a carcinogen.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#341,785
@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
Agree on the technical virtues of Asbestos.
Matt Miller aka Sharice Turnipseed, failed to consider the horrific mining history of Asbestos.