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Topic: Websites [hosted in the UK] to be forced to identify trolls under new measures

Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #20,067

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18404621

Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #327,086

I like this. It's those facebook, epic ween juuuuuullllay fags that ruins trolling. I'm glad those little bastards are getting busted

Lee Suicidus !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #327,087

Last week, a British woman
won a court order forcing
Facebook to identify users
who had harassed her.
Nicola Brookes had been
falsely branded a paedophile
and drug dealer by users -
known as trolls - on
Facebook.
lol

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 44 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #327,088

@OP

> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18404621

Damn just damn. In USA they do it with warrants which is an expensive process.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #327,090

Oh shit.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 28 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #327,094

The Sun and The Daily Mail will certainly be smug about this. Bastards.

@327,086 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Sure, all it'll likely do is weed out the shitty Facebook trolls, but the law in itself is troubling regardless.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,102

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Hide behind 7 proxies and you'll be fine.

elmo joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,103

i wonder how long it will be until this happens in the US

Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,104

@previous (elmo)
Once Chris Chan sues his trolls and has the law changed

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,105

So it gives the victims IP addresses, then they get a court order and obtain information which should match the specific individual. Well first off we know that is never accurate, ISPs are highly incompetent at even identifying their own customers from server logs, just look at all the false copyright threats that were made to random people in the UK. You cannot prove an individual posted stuff from this alone, it is not enough for a court unless you admit to it, then there are mitigating factors like if you had an insecure wireless point. Can they prove it wasn't someone on the street? You only have to put doubt in the mind of one person on the jury. This is just retarded. If someone posted something they don't like, delete it or don't look at it. This nonsensical legislation will never work in practice. The UK is a joke.

> The new rules would apply to all websites - regardless of where they are hosted - but the claimant would need to be able to show that the UK was the right place to bring the action.

They are claiming jurisdiction over every person in every country. Funny.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,106

@327,104 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Who's Chris Chan?

squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #327,107

> Nicola Brookes had been
> falsely branded a pedophile
> and drug dealer

there's really not much else in the trolling arsenal is there?

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,112

At first I thought this was bad, but after realising I rarely use UK-based sites I'm indifferent.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,113

@previous (K)
What about the Daily Mail?

Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 41 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,114

@327,105 (H)
A guy who worked for my old ISP once told me after 48hrs they were no longer able to match an IP to an individual. I don't know if it's actually true, but if it is I wonder if it's the same with any other ISPs.

Anonymous K double-posted this 14 years ago, 15 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,115

@327,113 (L)
What do you mean?

Oh, I don't use the Daily Mail's site if that's what you meant.

(Edited 17 seconds later.)

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,132

@327,114 (K)
100% NOT True.
This would be like MC telling you they cannot match your user id after 48 hours.

Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,145

@327,114 (K)
Not necessarily true, ISPs don't spend a lot of time or money organizing logs, there's no profit in it after all. Most British ISPs are so incompetent, my own ISP can't even tell me what speed they are providing me with.

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,163

@327,132 (D)
Kill yourself

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 41 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,170

@327,086 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)

> I like this. It's those facebook, epic ween juuuuuullllay fags that ruins trolling. I'm glad those little bastards are getting busted

AKA You.

Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,208

@previous (N)
nigger

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,211

@327,145 (H)
Hit Google & locate a speed test. Logging software is simple...cheep....and contains important info that helps reduce server overhead. The only way ISP's can beef up nodes is with this software. Websites use a similar package. Not rocket science.

Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,228

@327,107 (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
if it aint broke dont fix it.

Hank Splatters !08dNbCEGv. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #327,239

Looks like Indy wins again.
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