Topic: it doesn't matter if I'm real or not (my philosophy on fiction vs. non-fiction)
Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago #19,893
If something is real, or imaginary often times doesn't matter at all, the experience remains the same. Let's take for example something like talking to somebody on the internet. You find a girl, or a boy, and you get to talking sexually, and you masturbate thinking about this individual. Or maybe it isn't that, maybe it's a war hero, or a serial killer, or a billionaire, someone who is interesting to you in some way. Well if you tell anyone about them, what will they say? "Oh, it was just some 40 year old man. don't be an idiot", but you see, that doesn't matter.
Whether it's a criminal mastermind planning on robbing a casino, or a 40 year old man living in his basement doesn't matter at all. Your experience remains the same, the conversation remains the same. So do you choose to believe it's an attractive young boy, or do you want it to be a fat slob with acne making lies about himself?
The same goes for stories, whether something is true or not so often does not effect the story. Although in fact as a way of getting away with being shitty, a lot of shows will tag on "this is true", because you can't expect reality to be too crazy. But in reality it doesn't matter at all, let's take Ghost Adventures for example. Whether there is really a ghost or not has no real bearing on you. You can decide that it's fake, and dumb, and all that, or you can decide that it's real and you can scare the shit out of yourself.
Life is truly what you make of it, reality is subjective, and we all experience life differently. Life is full of purpose, life is meaningless, there's a God, and there has never been a God. Macaroni is the best meal on the planet, and it will make you throw up if you look at it. All of this is up to you.
I'm a 23 year old ex-infantry from WW1, I walked into a speakeasy one day and ended up in your time. I still haven't found my way back.
Whether it's a criminal mastermind planning on robbing a casino, or a 40 year old man living in his basement doesn't matter at all. Your experience remains the same, the conversation remains the same. So do you choose to believe it's an attractive young boy, or do you want it to be a fat slob with acne making lies about himself?
The same goes for stories, whether something is true or not so often does not effect the story. Although in fact as a way of getting away with being shitty, a lot of shows will tag on "this is true", because you can't expect reality to be too crazy. But in reality it doesn't matter at all, let's take Ghost Adventures for example. Whether there is really a ghost or not has no real bearing on you. You can decide that it's fake, and dumb, and all that, or you can decide that it's real and you can scare the shit out of yourself.
Life is truly what you make of it, reality is subjective, and we all experience life differently. Life is full of purpose, life is meaningless, there's a God, and there has never been a God. Macaroni is the best meal on the planet, and it will make you throw up if you look at it. All of this is up to you.
I'm a 23 year old ex-infantry from WW1, I walked into a speakeasy one day and ended up in your time. I still haven't found my way back.
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Falco !PZmcClOUDk joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #325,292
I'm sorry OP, but Minichan is for furry porn and shitposts.
postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,293
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,295
Falco !PZmcClOUDk replied with this 14 years ago, 24 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,297
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,298
@previous (Falco !PZmcClOUDk)
As is this.
This entire board is one large shitpost.
The internet itself is but a simple shitpost.
As is this.
This entire board is one large shitpost.
The internet itself is but a simple shitpost.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 43 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,299
This is furry porn.Falco !PZmcClOUDk replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,300
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 30 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,301
I liked this thread better when Thomas Nagel started it.
Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,302
@325,300 (Falco !PZmcClOUDk)
No problem, Falco. ;)
So long as you choose to believe it's furry porn, it all works out.
No problem, Falco. ;)
So long as you choose to believe it's furry porn, it all works out.
Fox !FXYGNx1XR. replied with this 14 years ago, 44 seconds later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #325,303
Descartes joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #325,306
Interesting spin on it, but you're about 400 years too late.Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 54 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #325,324
@previous (Descartes)
Not really that, I'm not saying "I think, therefore I am", and that is the only thing one can be certain of. But rather when something has any bit of mystery, the answer can be whatever you like.
What's behind the curtain can be anything, once reality is revealed however, it can only ever be that.
Not really that, I'm not saying "I think, therefore I am", and that is the only thing one can be certain of. But rather when something has any bit of mystery, the answer can be whatever you like.
What's behind the curtain can be anything, once reality is revealed however, it can only ever be that.
pizzaday joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #325,346
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #325,416
@325,324 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
Descartes said a lot more than "I think therefore I am." If you read the entire Meditations on First Philosophy, and Passions of the Soul, he goes very deeply into what OP is talking about.
Descartes said a lot more than "I think therefore I am." If you read the entire Meditations on First Philosophy, and Passions of the Soul, he goes very deeply into what OP is talking about.
Karmanaut !wUaaKKdfXw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #325,417
@325,306 (Descartes)
What? Descartes wasn't a radical idealist like @OP
@325,324 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
You seem to be confusing epistemic uncertainty with metaphysical uncertainty. Saying "reality itself entirely dependent on what I think" is different from saying "what I can know about reality is dependent on what I think.". The second I think is pretty obviously true in some sense. The former, I think not.
@325,346 (pizzaday)
Quality post.
What? Descartes wasn't a radical idealist like @OP
@325,324 (Postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+)
You seem to be confusing epistemic uncertainty with metaphysical uncertainty. Saying "reality itself entirely dependent on what I think" is different from saying "what I can know about reality is dependent on what I think.". The second I think is pretty obviously true in some sense. The former, I think not.
@325,346 (pizzaday)
Quality post.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 14 years ago, 58 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #325,418
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #325,439
@325,417 (Karmanaut !wUaaKKdfXw)
Descartes walks into a bar.
The bartender walks up to him and says, “Would you care for a drink?â€
Descartes replied, “I think not.†and disappears.
Descartes walks into a bar.
The bartender walks up to him and says, “Would you care for a drink?â€
Descartes replied, “I think not.†and disappears.