Topic: How shit would IE10 be?
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 14 years ago #19,402
By the time this browser comes out and IE9 is obsolete.
How shit would IE10 be compared to IE9 and IE6?
How shit would IE10 be compared to IE9 and IE6?
squeegee !m0Qr3Wnyeg joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #319,266
I dunno. I haven't used them in many years. My opinion is that it sucks all around.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #319,269
bing toolbars would fill half the screen
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 25 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #319,279
Making fun of IE is like making fun of a retarded kid.
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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #319,282
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,293
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,294
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brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,299
lol @ this topic
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,302
Breaking from Microsoft, IE 10 will use a combination of images rendered by Javascript to display webpages as well as the new Bingeasel (as a light weight (only uses 1GB of RAM per 100KB in a page), proprietary version of the HTML5 canvas). Users will be required to register with Bing to interact with pages.
~ direct quote from new Microsoft CEO, Lamar Smith
~ direct quote from new Microsoft CEO, Lamar Smith
HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,306
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 14 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,307
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #319,317
There were actually a lot of huge improvement from IE8 to IE9, but it already had such a bad reputation that the damage was done. Everyone was using Firefox and Chrome, so there was no reason to even give it a chance. IE10 will probably be on par with Chrome, but it will still get made fun of because no one will bother using it.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,342
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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,346
Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,348
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,350
@319,346 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)IE 29.95%
Setting aside MAC users of Safari
Firefox 21.8%
Chrome 23.96%
45.6% Do not use IE which came with their computer.
Firefox & Chrome are mostly identical.
Now look at the graph and notice the Diving off the cliff for IE
Anonymous I double-posted this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,351
Catherine
Adding this. I have IE Chrome and Firefox on my computers.
On rare occasions I do use IE because there are still a few websites that only render properly on IE.
In a few cases one has to use IE at MicroShit to download software because IE demands Active X, however I notice that even MicroShit has made their system Firefox compatible in most cases. After all they are not blind to the Stats.
Adding this. I have IE Chrome and Firefox on my computers.
On rare occasions I do use IE because there are still a few websites that only render properly on IE.
In a few cases one has to use IE at MicroShit to download software because IE demands Active X, however I notice that even MicroShit has made their system Firefox compatible in most cases. After all they are not blind to the Stats.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,353
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,354
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I think that's partially because Firefox dominated for so long they got lazy. When Chrome started to catch up they got their asses in gear and did a shitload of updates, but once again the damage was done. Once people had started using Chrome, they weren't going to transition back to Firefox just because of some improvements.
I think that's partially because Firefox dominated for so long they got lazy. When Chrome started to catch up they got their asses in gear and did a shitload of updates, but once again the damage was done. Once people had started using Chrome, they weren't going to transition back to Firefox just because of some improvements.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,355
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Not only lazy but as an all in house development thing without regard to what regular users need/think.
Chrome needed a first class browser for Tablets-Cell Phones. IE was resource intensive and a drain on batteries. It was costly for Chrome to go it all alone. Of course they had Firefox to start out with. Open sourced and perhaps improved upon. They took the lead with the Auto updates. FF is still my fav.
Using IE for a work related reason at the moment n gawd is it slow on image rendering (1000's of images) Going to do that image work on FF and then move the results to IE for the work product NOW!!
Not only lazy but as an all in house development thing without regard to what regular users need/think.
Chrome needed a first class browser for Tablets-Cell Phones. IE was resource intensive and a drain on batteries. It was costly for Chrome to go it all alone. Of course they had Firefox to start out with. Open sourced and perhaps improved upon. They took the lead with the Auto updates. FF is still my fav.
Using IE for a work related reason at the moment n gawd is it slow on image rendering (1000's of images) Going to do that image work on FF and then move the results to IE for the work product NOW!!
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 46 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,365
To be honest. I don't know how the fuck IE's held on for this long. I would have expected it to be in the single digits by now.
Also, sucks but it seems Chrome's pulling from Firefox much more heavily than it is from IE.
Also, sucks but it seems Chrome's pulling from Firefox much more heavily than it is from IE.
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Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,368
@previous (J)
It held up because MicroShit ships O/S to PC makers with IE.
Tablet/Cellphones taking all that over & the Cloud.
It held up because MicroShit ships O/S to PC makers with IE.
Tablet/Cellphones taking all that over & the Cloud.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 26 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,375
@previous (I)
> ships OS with IE
Well if they didn't, what would you use to download other browsers?
Also, Microsoft wants their computers to be fully functional out of the box, with minimal to download/install if you don't want to. That's why they've started the whole "Microsoft Signature" thing. If they removed IE from their OS, it would just piss off the 30% or so that still use IE because they just want the computer to work as is.
> ships OS with IE
Well if they didn't, what would you use to download other browsers?
Also, Microsoft wants their computers to be fully functional out of the box, with minimal to download/install if you don't want to. That's why they've started the whole "Microsoft Signature" thing. If they removed IE from their OS, it would just piss off the 30% or so that still use IE because they just want the computer to work as is.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 26 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,381
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> Well if they didn't, what would you use to download other browsers?
That made me think for perhaps 10 seconds.
Not kidding about this - For work I still do a lot of non browser FTP. Only on private networks. Of course FTP still works on the web.
MS could use the same method they use for the necessary after market Anti-Virus program. Almost a full slate of choices.
Back during the USGov anti-trust investigations of MS - MS just in case they were forced to un-bundle IE from O/S had a no frills simple browser ready to roll out.
Striped down SeaMonkey today would work great as a throwaway browser to download a full whatever browser/of choice.
> Well if they didn't, what would you use to download other browsers?
That made me think for perhaps 10 seconds.
Not kidding about this - For work I still do a lot of non browser FTP. Only on private networks. Of course FTP still works on the web.
MS could use the same method they use for the necessary after market Anti-Virus program. Almost a full slate of choices.
Back during the USGov anti-trust investigations of MS - MS just in case they were forced to un-bundle IE from O/S had a no frills simple browser ready to roll out.
Striped down SeaMonkey today would work great as a throwaway browser to download a full whatever browser/of choice.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 11 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,483
@previous (I)
@319,375 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You don't need a web browser to download a file over HTTP (From the web). They could just make an application that shows a list of browsers the user could install (Could get this list from online so it can be updated), and it would then download those installers and offer them up. The installing could be integrated to just a single click, if the browser developers and application developers would both want to.
Of course something like this is already happening in Europe (court ordered). Upon first boot they display a window, probably using a border-less internet explorer, to display http://www.browserchoice.eu/ from which the user can obtain installers for alternative browsers. Note how all links point to microsoft.com
@319,375 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You don't need a web browser to download a file over HTTP (From the web). They could just make an application that shows a list of browsers the user could install (Could get this list from online so it can be updated), and it would then download those installers and offer them up. The installing could be integrated to just a single click, if the browser developers and application developers would both want to.
Of course something like this is already happening in Europe (court ordered). Upon first boot they display a window, probably using a border-less internet explorer, to display http://www.browserchoice.eu/ from which the user can obtain installers for alternative browsers. Note how all links point to microsoft.com
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Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,486
@previous (K)
Yea I was in a hurry and failed to post the more better Euro solution re Microshit.
Lots n lots of non browser applications that down load software off the web (browser less) Just a guess, but I see perhaps a dozen box's that show up on this computer to download application/programs without ever using the browser.
Yea I was in a hurry and failed to post the more better Euro solution re Microshit.
Lots n lots of non browser applications that down load software off the web (browser less) Just a guess, but I see perhaps a dozen box's that show up on this computer to download application/programs without ever using the browser.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,497
@319,483 (K)
There is still the issue of:
> Also, Microsoft wants their computers to be fully functional out of the box, with minimal to download/install if you don't want to. That's why they've started the whole "Microsoft Signature" thing. If they removed IE from their OS, it would just piss off the 30% or so that still use IE because they just want the computer to work as is.
Which is why Microsoft will only do it if court ordered, which is ridiculous. There is no grave injustice going on. It's their product and they can feature it however they like. It's not like they're restricting other browsers. That's why that will never happen in the U.S.
There is still the issue of:
> Also, Microsoft wants their computers to be fully functional out of the box, with minimal to download/install if you don't want to. That's why they've started the whole "Microsoft Signature" thing. If they removed IE from their OS, it would just piss off the 30% or so that still use IE because they just want the computer to work as is.
Which is why Microsoft will only do it if court ordered, which is ridiculous. There is no grave injustice going on. It's their product and they can feature it however they like. It's not like they're restricting other browsers. That's why that will never happen in the U.S.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,498
@319,365 (J)
> seems Chrome's pulling from Firefox much more heavily than it is from IE.
The graph seems to indicate just the opposite. Firefox is remaining mostly steady while Chrome appears to be pulling directly from IE.
> seems Chrome's pulling from Firefox much more heavily than it is from IE.
The graph seems to indicate just the opposite. Firefox is remaining mostly steady while Chrome appears to be pulling directly from IE.
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Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 27 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,499
@319,497 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I was just offering options, I agree with you that microsoft won't do it without being forced to.
I was just offering options, I agree with you that microsoft won't do it without being forced to.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,503
@319,497 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Just a reminder of a little history here. It was never about Microsoft computers. They have never made PC's. What the US Courts and Euro Courts were butthurt over, was MS forcing a private firm like Dell and Compaq. To get the best deal on the O/S they were forced to only use IE. US courts found MS Guilty. Euro as well. However Euro courts were smarter and decided to let people choose what they wanted after purchase.
Really more complex then that butttt that is the bottom line.
I still do not see my MS updates YET & of course THEY come in sans any browser.
Just a reminder of a little history here. It was never about Microsoft computers. They have never made PC's. What the US Courts and Euro Courts were butthurt over, was MS forcing a private firm like Dell and Compaq. To get the best deal on the O/S they were forced to only use IE. US courts found MS Guilty. Euro as well. However Euro courts were smarter and decided to let people choose what they wanted after purchase.
Really more complex then that butttt that is the bottom line.
I still do not see my MS updates YET & of course THEY come in sans any browser.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,507
@previous (I)
> MS forcing a private firm like Dell and Compaq. To get the best deal on the O/S they were forced to only use IE.
If that's really what they based their decision on, then the courts are wrong. All versions of Windows come with IE, whether you buy a retail version, and OEM version, a new computer, or pirate it. If they put of versions that didn't have IE but they forced OEMs like DELL to buy the version with IE, then the court would have a point, but if IE is simply part of the product, it's part of the product. It would be like if Coca Cola stopped making diet soda, and people sued Coca Cola for forcing them to drink sugar, and a court ordering that Coca Cola has to take out the sugar and produce diet Coke. That's wrong. Coke can produce whatever products they like, and if you don't like it, you don't have to drink Coke.
Also, there's nothing stopping companies like DELL from preloading a browser like Chrome or Firefox onto their computers, the same way they load all their bulkware onto to the computer.
> MS forcing a private firm like Dell and Compaq. To get the best deal on the O/S they were forced to only use IE.
If that's really what they based their decision on, then the courts are wrong. All versions of Windows come with IE, whether you buy a retail version, and OEM version, a new computer, or pirate it. If they put of versions that didn't have IE but they forced OEMs like DELL to buy the version with IE, then the court would have a point, but if IE is simply part of the product, it's part of the product. It would be like if Coca Cola stopped making diet soda, and people sued Coca Cola for forcing them to drink sugar, and a court ordering that Coca Cola has to take out the sugar and produce diet Coke. That's wrong. Coke can produce whatever products they like, and if you don't like it, you don't have to drink Coke.
Also, there's nothing stopping companies like DELL from preloading a browser like Chrome or Firefox onto their computers, the same way they load all their bulkware onto to the computer.
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Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,517
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> Also, there's nothing stopping companies like DELL from preloading a browser like Chrome or Firefox onto their computers, the same way they load all their bulkware onto to the computer.
There you have IT - There was something stopping DELL etc from preloading any other browser on the computers. To get the lowest price of the MS O/S and in a few cases to even be allowed to buy the O/S from MS - They were forced to NEVER allow the loading of non MS browsers on a PC. Lots of major US Laws that say that don't fly!
In the USA this cost MS Millions of $$$$ of fines. Same in Europe only HUGE Fines and the rule that:
http://www.browserchoice.eu/
Euro courts so much smarter then USA Courts - Lots more fines lolo
> Also, there's nothing stopping companies like DELL from preloading a browser like Chrome or Firefox onto their computers, the same way they load all their bulkware onto to the computer.
There you have IT - There was something stopping DELL etc from preloading any other browser on the computers. To get the lowest price of the MS O/S and in a few cases to even be allowed to buy the O/S from MS - They were forced to NEVER allow the loading of non MS browsers on a PC. Lots of major US Laws that say that don't fly!
In the USA this cost MS Millions of $$$$ of fines. Same in Europe only HUGE Fines and the rule that:
http://www.browserchoice.eu/
Euro courts so much smarter then USA Courts - Lots more fines lolo
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,519
@previous (I)
> There was something stopping DELL etc from preloading any other browser on the computers.
Well then the courts can force MS to stop doing that. That's got nothing to do with IE being preloaded on the computer. MS still has every right to do that. That's why I don't agree with the EU ruling.
> There was something stopping DELL etc from preloading any other browser on the computers.
Well then the courts can force MS to stop doing that. That's got nothing to do with IE being preloaded on the computer. MS still has every right to do that. That's why I don't agree with the EU ruling.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,522
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
EU did this for punitive reasons. The Egregious outrageous strong arm tactics by MicroShit.
EU did this for punitive reasons. The Egregious outrageous strong arm tactics by MicroShit.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #319,573
@319,498 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
The chart only shows the period from Chrome's introduction. Firefox was around long before that.
Still what you say may be true now. Freetards will only ever use Firefox, and they're making new ones every day.
The chart only shows the period from Chrome's introduction. Firefox was around long before that.
Still what you say may be true now. Freetards will only ever use Firefox, and they're making new ones every day.
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