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Topic: Does /r9k/ take this alpha/beta terminology too seriously?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 14 years ago #19,298

I saw someone use the terms alpha+ and alpha++ along with alpha-.

They also used the term gamma.

This feels weird to me.

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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #317,564

The best way to understand it is to stop taking /r9k/ seriously.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #317,565

Most people who so much as use the words take them too seriously.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 24 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #317,566

@previous (C)
Everyone goes beta for something. It's evolutionary hardwired. These guys speak as if it's permanent condition when it's really a relative concept.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,677

@previous (D)
what does that even mean? how can you go beta for something?

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,689

@previous (E)
You subordinate to it.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,690

@previous (D)
that happens all of the time and doesnt make someone beta.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,702

Everyone takes the alpha/beta thing too seriously. Humans have evolved differently from other apes like chimpanzees that have a strict alpha/beta hierarchy, so you can't apply it to humans in the same way. It's OK to loosely use the terms to describe a given social situation, but not to describe people in general.

brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,703

@OP

Yes.

An application being in gamma isnot unheard of, though.

It's sorta a joke.

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Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 22 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,719

@317,690 (E)
How can you possibly allow someone to lead you knowing they subordinate to another. Why not simply cut out the middle man?

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,722

@previous (D)
everyone subordinates to something. whether it be the government, the church, or time.

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Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,724

@previous (E)
Exactly, which is why alpha is a temporary concept not a permanent condition. Thanks for restating my original point.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,727

@previous (D)
its not temporary, because it never ends.

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,738

@previous (E)
Then everyone is beta and alpha is a delusion created by differing levels of betaness.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,742

@previous (D)
it could be, so there's no point in even using those terms.

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,749

@previous (E)
In that case, we should invent an invisible sky daddy for everyone to subordinate to so we can all be of equal betaness.

Oh sHit wAIT!

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Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,761

@previous (D)
I dont believe in god.

Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,766

@previous (E)
HEATHAN!

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,773

@317,761 (E)
Well then you subordinate to Death. There's your God pal, you just don't know it yet.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,778

@previous (D)
okay, it's that way for everyone. so we dont need those terms.

Anonymous B replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,782

@previous (E)
What if we want them?

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,786

@previous (B)
Go for it. I'm not a stickler. lol

Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,792

@317,778 (E)
Oh I'd say the people who worship the invisible dudes know full well their God is actually death. That's just a hunch given the historically religious nature of warfare.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,794

@previous (D)
I'm not sure if they do. It certainly seems to give them comfort, either way.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,795

@OP


> They also used the term gamma.
>
> This feels weird to me.

Gamma radiation is something I work with on a daily basis. Gamma rays are mean mean very mean to IC's. I keep track of this damage. Never trust Gamma, but keep looking out for it. Gamma radiation breaks DNA molecules, which is not good for me or you.

Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 40 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,797

@previous (H)
can we hear more about this please?

Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,801

@previous (E)
Yes, but you need specify what more you want.

AND It may take me some time to get back to your needs. Work just demanded that I take a look at a circuit in (lets call it a small robot) that has been hit HARD by Gamma as well as X-Rays recently.

So will be busy for a hour or so. $$ Trumps net play.

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Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,802

@317,795 (H)
So in the context of personality types. What would a gamma person be like?

green !c6N8McrBuY joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 8 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,975

Yo momma was a pussy who used to run away from cougars and pumas and shit. If she hadn't you wouldn't even born. Survival of the fittest.

Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #317,980

@317,802 (D)
Their is a comic series based on Gamma persons and I just located this.

The Effects of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds
http://www.bookrags.com/studyguide-gammarays/free-quiz.html

HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,300

Image went missing

brie !OudrPWaUDQ replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,304

@317,975 (green !c6N8McrBuY)
oh shit, son.


@previous (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)

That's so gamma.

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brie !OudrPWaUDQ double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,311

@317,980 (H)
what's the comic?

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Anonymous D replied with this 14 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,451

@318,300 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
This seems like kind of a rip off of Merton's Social Structure and Anomie, written in the 40's or some shit. Only he used the following terminology: Innovator, Conformist, Ritualist, Retreatist and Rebel.

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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,576

> Gamma
Nope.
Alpha, Beta, Omega.

Social interaction is game, you see?
Alphas play it well.
Betas play it badly.
Omegas simply say "nope" and don't play, or rather, play by their own rules.

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Dr Bumhert joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,579

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
You are omega?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #318,584

@318,576 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
> Social interaction is game, you see?
> Omegas simply say "nope" and don't play, or rather, play by their own rules.

Isn't this commonly associated with alphas?

vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #318,616

Alpha, beta, gamma, omega, terms like this are all relative. To the normal person I'm beta as fuck, but in my group of friends I'm alpha as all fucking hell. Being one out of 3 guys in the group of ~15 people helps though.

Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #318,732

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/07/alpha-beta-and-sometimes-gamma.html

Resident of the Falklands replied with this 14 years ago, 42 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #318,736

@318,616 (vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV)
> claim to be alpha
> use tildes
ISHYGDDT. Thanks.

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 day later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #319,184

@318,584 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
No. Alphas make the rules, so typically they have no problem following them. Alphas who progress into Omegas will develop a God complex, thinking power means the rules don't apply to them.

Even God himself says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega."

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