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Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago#19,292
The argument is that when a person downloads and views CP pictures and videos, the child is "victimized" again (or something like that). By that logic aren't law enforcement "victimizing" the child in those pictures and videos by viewing the pictures and videos?
brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#317,506
faek logic.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 41 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#317,514
@OP
Yes. A magical bond exists between the content and the child. That is why child porn causes such lasting damage.
Please stop hurting children, OP.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^][v]#317,515
It's based upon what the intent is. You're watching someone being humiliated and the viewer is taking joy in their humiliation. Law enforcement doesn't take joy in such, nor do they repeatedly view the videos for anything but legal purposes. Sexualizing these victims in the video is absolutely wrong.
brie !OudrPWaUDQ replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^][v]#317,518
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,574
It's the logic of idiot armchair economists, which are everywhere btw.
Destroying supply has no effect on demand. If anything, it probably causes more children to be victimized as new supplies will be demanded. But you can't explain economics to morons.
brie !OudrPWaUDQ replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,582
@previous (E) > But you can't explain economics to morons.
lolnope.
Dr Bumhert joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 36 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,592
> It's the logic of idiot armchair economists, which are everywhere btw. > > Destroying supply has no effect on demand. If anything, it probably causes more children to be victimized as new supplies will be demanded. But you can't explain economics to morons.
This.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,606
@317,515 (D)
they might enjoy it. how would anyone know?
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,608
@317,515 (D)
It's wrong. Doesn't mean a child is being re-victimized. If I'm happy does it mean you're being made sad?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 33 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,680
Aw, who cares about "re-victimizing" kids. That's just for the cameras. The real reason CP is illegal is so we can victimize the pedophile.
You see, the pedophile doesn't have feelings like you and me, no. But they can be pretty convincing. The only thing that really works on the pedo is catch and release. Put em in a databank, and blammo. Under the thumb.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,681
@previous (H)
I agree. But there're still gonna jack to CP though.
Castration would be better.
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Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,683
@317,680 (H)
punishing monsters by acting like one yourself. got it.
Anonymous G double-posted this 14 years ago, 32 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,684
@317,681 (E)
mutilating someone who looks at pictures. got it.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,687
@previous (G)
I was making a point regarding intent. If people are serious about altering intent, this is the way to do it. Destroy the demand, not the supply.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,688
@previous (E)
that wouldnt destroy the desire at all. It's a mental thing as well, and being impotent wont stop this.
brie !OudrPWaUDQ replied with this 14 years ago, 30 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,709
@317,681 (E)
Castration is too expensive, society has dictated that pedos must run on sheer willpower.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,710
@317,688 (G)
Sure, but at least we can guarantee it'll keep their DNA from polluting future generations.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,713
@previous (E)
unless they've already had children you like having an excuse to maim and torture, thats cool.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,716
@previous (G)
Life is torture and revenge is sweet. Get used to it.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,717
@previous (E)
nice way to back off from controversial statements. you want to hurt people, and the idea probably gets you hard.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,723
@previous (G)
I wish to hurt criminals who have previously violated others. Not people.
Yes, the destruction of what I consider evil feels good to me. I admit too it freely.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,726
@previous (E)
you want to hurt humans, who have looked at pictures. you get hard from thinking about torture, thats disgusting. can you even be trusted amongst the general populace?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,729
> The argument is that when a person downloads and views CP pictures and videos, the child is "victimized" again (or something like that). By that logic aren't law enforcement "victimizing" the child in those pictures and videos by viewing the pictures and videos? > > What kind of logic is this?
Its all about the lawn. Chicken or Egg? You have to cut off the source of the infection. When others view the infection of video CP and become turned on to it, they go out and commit the deed.
Catching viewers just means locking them up and then keeping them on the sex offenders registry. That way it helps keep them in check and makes it easy to lock them up again. This keeps the community safer.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,731
To quote AC:
lol
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 22 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,732
@317,726 (G)
Hey, at least he's not a pedophile. He we can use.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 42 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,734
@317,726 (G)
I didn't say anything about the conditions under which I'm willing to hurt humans. But I am indeed willing to hurt humans when they present a serious threat to my own life. This is the reality of intelligence.
Make CP of my child and I want to hurt you. How is such a sentiment wrong, exactly?
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,744
@317,729 (I)
do men who watch rape porn, need to be monitored to keep society safe?
Anonymous G double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,746
@317,734 (E)
You did say that. you wanted to castrate someone for looking at pictures. that's sick. someone looking at photos isn't threatening anyone's life.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,751
@previous (G)
I never said that specifically. I was speaking about the producers of this shit, just so you know. And yes, they directly violate children. I know it's hard to grasp when you're a fucking pedo. But innocence is something which can be and is violated.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,752
@317,744 (G)
I look at it from my point of view and personal experience. Before I had access to my first sex with a girl, I looked at regular porn. More looking "me thinks" led to a burning desire for the real thing. Besides my palms were wearing out.
So I think men who view CP and are turned on by it, will desire the real thing and search for it in R/L.
Men who are turned on by CP are Sicko's and society needs to know where they live and keep track of them. Just yesterday evening on TV I saw the local PD put out a photo with the name and general location of a just released predator. Multiple convictions.
Said he was not wanted for a current crime but THEY wanted the public to know he is now back out.
Just need to keep kids safe.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,755
@317,751 (E)
I'm against child porn and not a pedophile at all, but I'm also against horrible violence committed out of disgust and strong emotions rather than justice.
Anonymous G double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,757
@317,752 (I)
would it work that way with rape porn though? Max Hardcore was arrested because he supposedly broke obscenity laws. would man watch his movies, and then force women to choke on dicks? nope.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 second later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,758
@317,755 (G)
But if they've committed the crime than it is justice and strong emotions become the impediment.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 33 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,759
@previous (E)
you want the punishment for the crime of looking at something, to be castration. that's not rational at all.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,764
@previous (G)
I want to apply the science of eugenics to effect a change in the gene pool. Totally rational.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,768
@previous (E)
you sound sick. people who get off on that type of violence should be monitored to protect anyone that might be affected.
Anonymous I replied with this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,770
The whole idea is to make it so illegal that production will cease. Of course that will never happen.
Reducing the production and busting those who watch it. All worthwhile projects in my book.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,775
@317,768 (G)
Boo hoo, you're a pedo troll and I'm not.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,779
@previous (E)
I'm really not, I just dont like seeing people be cruel.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,791
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,796
@previous (E)
In my opinion, revenge is not always the same as justice. If while getting your "revenge" you act worse than the person who wronged you, what does that turn you into? you become more of a monster than the pedophile.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,798
@previous (G)
The possibility of revenge is a necessary deterrent to future violations. Your argument is invalid.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 39 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,813
@previous (E)
that doesnt give people an excuse to act horribly. you want to hurt people, you crave it! that makes you a monster.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,817
@previous (G)
You assume I need an excuse, but I need only a reason.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,818
@previous (E)
to be a monster?
I'm not surprised. people like you scare me.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 36 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,819
@previous (G)
If you're being scared keeps you from raping a child than so be it. I'm a monster, and proud.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,821
@previous (E)
I never had the urge. I'm scared of violence committed by reckless people. you're a monster and proud, and so are many of the pedophiles that you hate. Is one monster worse than the others? not in my opinion.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,824
@previous (G)
This is how animal life works. Go be a plant.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,826
@previous (E)
wait, so how can you judge other people if you are just as bad or worse? You should be castrated, monsters shouldnt breed.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,829
@previous (G)
You can attempt to castrate me, and I'll attempt to defend myself from such. This is how the struggle for dominance works.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,830
@previous (E)
that's why we now have the justice system. so scary monsters dont get to be vigilantes.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,832
@previous (G)
Until the scary monsters take over the justice system.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,835
@previous (E)
okay, so what are you trying to say? people do murder, people do torture, you'd love to do those things. We get it. I know that such people exist.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 49 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,837
@previous (G)
I'm think we should let these people lose on the pedophiles.
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Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,840
@previous (E)
Of course you want that. you'd love to be able to hurt people. It would be like a picnic for you. sick, just sick.
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,841
@previous (G)
Pedophiles like you never shut up on the internet, do they?
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,845
@previous (E)
Good comeback you fucking serial rapist. you monsters never shut up on the internet. what kind of person gets off on cutting off cocks? A very sick person. Do you have an erection when you beat men?
Anonymous E replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,849
Still though. I do get hard at the idea of putting a straight man in a cage and depriving him of water until he's willing to drink my piss. But that's only to get even with strightfags for their unwarranted self importance.
Anonymous H replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,888
This is exactly why we need a national sex offender registry.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#317,891