squeegee !firstkPE1Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#315,419
Buy a package.
Put it out on the corner.
Don't mess up the count.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#315,425
Grow some weed.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#315,427
$500 is the minimum amount to start trading in the stock market. If I were you I'd just put it in a savings account and keep adding to it until it's big enough for a more serious investment. It's also good to have a rainy day fund. You don't want to put all your money into non-liquid assets and then not be able to get to it right away in an emergency.
meticulousMisnomer !M9.6XYhKxM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#315,428
> Grow some weed.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#315,433
That bottom chart sorta shows IF IF IF you had the luck of the lottery on you side and bought at only the right day and then sold it exactly the moment it hit BIG .....
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Anonymous F double-posted this 14 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#315,434
With gold, you're only keeping up with inflation, you'll never actually earn money...
With $500 I'd invest into a useless skill that could grant you a job when everything else fails. Crane operator or something like that...
St !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,493
Only $500?
Drugs, obviously.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,494
five hundred lotto tickets
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 30 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,510
Secure a domain name, buy a decent hosting plan, and set up an Internet forum where people can ask questions anonymously.You may have to start off small, but within three years advertisers and eccentric`billionaires should be beating down your door with revenue and donations.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 34 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,516
@315,490 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
You're You're You're You're soooooooooooo wrong about Gold. Take a look at when it was around $200 Oz vs current rates and look at inflation at that $200 level vs NOW NOW NOW!!
Anonymous F double-posted this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,519
wrong chart
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Anonymous F triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,520
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,556
Silver looks good as an investment, if you are looking at precious metals.
postmortem !!Qe8ScDbX+ joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 47 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#315,562
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 22 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,913
@315,490 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
This is so fucking dumb. Gold will continue to be gold long after the collapse of society. Money and investment vehicles will be paper and meaningless numbers.
This alone makes gold superior to all other investments, and a fucking necessity to hedge a very possible risk.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,916
@previous (Q)
But what will you do with it? I'd rather have a silos full of wheat flour than a bar of gold when the collapse of society happens.
Buying gold is a shitty way to make money.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,918
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Your silos of wheat flour will be indefensible. You will be forced to purchase weaponry. With gold, most likely.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,922
@previous (Q) > implying I'd have an unprotected silos full of wheat flour when ''the collapse of society' happens
So I've got guns and wheat flour, and you have only gold. Why would I trade something that keeps me alive for some shiny metal chunks?
Also, @OP ain't stocking up for the collapse of society but is investing $500 into something to gain a quick buck, and gold for that matter is just beyond retarded. EOD.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 46 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,928
@315,918 (Q)
TheSheep is right. Gold is virtually worthless in a collapsed society where it serves no purpose. It's used as currency because it's rare and impossible to counterfeit, but it's good for jewelry and tiny amounts of it are used in industry and that's about it. Think about the movie Water World where dirt was like gold because of how much it was needed. Gold didn't mean jack shit in that society, especially when there's no money for vanity.
TheSheep's wheat is going to be more valuable than any amount of gold.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,930
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
This is what fucking happens when High Schools can't be bothered to teach economics.
You seem to be suffering from the profane delusion that economic value is determined solely by utility. This is simply false. A goods value is a function of both its utility and its rarity. In cases of extreme rarity, scarcity alone is sufficient to define the good as something of economic value.
Gold's purpose is to BE gold. Scarcity creates its own value, irrespective of how stupid and worthless the scarce good in question may be. See Bitcoin.
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Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,934
ITT: People who can't into post-apocalyptic society.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,937
@315,930 (Q)
I think Econ should be a major subject of its own, not something that gets crammed into Geo/History.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,945
@315,922 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Shitty metal chunks with a magical power to transform themselves into whatever you require at a moments notice via trade. You would gladly trade your temporary "something that keeps you alive today" for a permanent "something that can become anything at any time."
Now please stop being so fucking stupid.
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squeegee !firstkPE1Q replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,947
1. Use $500 to purchase a handgun.
2. Use handgun to rob liquor stores.
3. Use stolen liquor store money to buy a small liquor store.
4. Watchout for niggers like you.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,948
@previous (squeegee !firstkPE1Q)
I find this intensely profound. Squeegee, you're my new favorite namefag.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 43 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,970
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,971
@previous (S)
Investing in bitcoins assumes computer networking survies the collapse of society. Seems like a long shot.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,972
@315,930 (Q)
I was an econ minor, jackass. I understand that economic value is determined by more than just utility, in a normal society, but is society collapses, utility becomes more important and no one gives a shit about gold.
Anonymous P replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,973
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I don't know, I think greedy people would still value gold and want to acquire it.
Water and food would still take priority, though.
Anonymous T replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,975
@315,972 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Oh wow you paid money to people for them to tell you that you were smart.
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Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#315,976
@315,973 (P)
Water and food will still have to be more prevalent than gold simply because there are people who are still alive. If you sat down and calculated how much water and food people actually consume in a year compared with how much gold there is in the entire world then you would understand where I'm coming from.
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#316,051
@315,973 (P)
You're right. People who think it has value would still accept it and see what they could do with it, or hoard it, and before long they need water, food, shelter, protection, whatever, and then they have to hope that other people would be willing to give up what little they have for gold, hoping that someone else will accept gold for other resources. If it doesn't have any real use, then it's faith based just like any other currency. Gold is just a little more real than other currencies.
Even if we were economists, we could spend all day debating what would happen in an economic collapse and what would be worth what. It depends on many factors.
@315,975 (T)
"I can't argue, so I'm just going to belittle your education, and all colleges do is tell people they're smart."
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Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#316,058
I just put this question to Google: "best safe investments 2012"
What I see on Google vs what you may get re top of list will vary re Google's master plan for you lolo
Gold
American Express Company
Bank of America
Bank of New York Mellon
Gannett Corporation
General Electric
Kraft Foods
Moody's Corporation
Proctor and Gamble
United Parcel Service (UPS)
I agree with Gold as number one and my chart from an early reply agrees
I DO NOT agree re BoA because that bank has so many hatters out there as they should (my bank)
"Welcome to the year 2012, where bonds and bond funds will likely not be such a safe investment. Stock funds are never safe and 2012 will be no exception to the rule."
Dang dang - A case of Ying and Yang of what one finds with a search today lolol
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#316,082
The same loony who put BoA in top 3 put gold on top. That tells you much about the great list.
Investing in gold lets you keep up with inflation. And that's it.
So much shit ITT my head hurts.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k double-posted this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#316,085
@315,976 (Q) > If you sat down and calculated how much water and food people actually consume in a year compared with how much gold there is in the entire world then you would understand where I'm coming from.
If you wanna pull such numbers out of your anus and calculate, than at least calculate the right numbers.
If society collapsed, do you think wheat flour/clean water would be available? I bet you could easier rush into the national reserve and steal gold than get your filthy hands on eatable food and water... since that's what's gonna be protected.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,087
@316,082 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
You've got that backwards. Inflation keeps up with Gold. Gold continues to be the real money and promises on paper are still promises (quite possibly fake promises) on paper.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,090
@316,082 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
You need to look at my reply @315,520 (F)
That chart and blow it up - Shows you're in error. And frankly as someone who bought Gold when it was under $400 - I speak from experience. Sold n bought n sold n bought n so fucking far ahead -
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,092
@316,085 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Gold will always be protected beyond food and water because food and water are perishable while gold is not.
If you had even the slightest clue in economics you'd know about a little something called the "time value of money." An asset that retains the quality of an asset into perpetuity is always preferable to an asset who's value is temporal.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,094
@previous (Q)
People like you happen when you study a lot out of books, but learn nothing from life.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,096
btw, learning from life is a euphemism for leaning from cocksucking.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,099
@previous (Q)
You aren't but a combination of a projector on the side of my house, Zelda: SS, a slight hangover, a not giving a fuck attitude and a plate full of cookies keeps my posts short and my mood in a "cba to elaborate".
Now take care, I'm out!
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,101
@316,096 (Q)
Except you're wrong, moron. If someone's starving they're not going to give up food for gold hoping to get a return on it in a post-apocalyptic society, and clean water is not perishable.
Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,106
One should never forget that Gold has value far far beyond $$$$ - As an element it has advantages that cannot be duplicated by any other element. It was once only valuable because of beauty and a metal easy to shape as well as never oxidize.
Now it still has all of that and far more. One does make IC's without much less the mass of Science this and that.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,110
@previous (F)
You sound a little too in love with the idea of gold, Anon F. Are you a reptilian who has come to our planet to steal our monoatomic gold because it is the only thing that can power your alien technology?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 19 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,359
Donate it to Kimmo You're guaranteed a huge return.
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Anonymous F replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,364
@316,110 (U)
I R Engineer. Me thinks Engineers n Chemists wood be in Love with Gold just because as I said b4 GOLD as an element does stuff no other element does. Pure 100% Gold is too soft for a number of applications so it requires additions of other elements.
I also have made lots of cold hard cash because of Gold. I figure that when the Reptilian Aliens arrive on Planet Earth...They will search me out and trade me something of value for some of my Gold.
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 years ago, 50 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,375
@316,101 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Are you forgetting you're talking only about the starving people? The poor have never mattered to the people with the gold for this very reason: they have nothing to offer in trade. Most people will be fucked, yes. But some people will find ways to amass a surplus. These people will be the survivors and the people in a position to trade. You seem to be assuming all trade will die simply because the world is in crisis. I think that's full of shit. Trade is as natural to humans as language.
Also, if you're trying to suggest drinkable water could be stored long term or serve as a currency I must inform you you've been sold a delusion by cheap sci fi. You need a biology lesson. On average, humans do not survive for more than 3 days without water. You could go a week, but longer is basically impossible. Any commodity which is consumed at such would make a shit currency and it's certainly not going to function as a store of value given how necessary it is.
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Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#316,390