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Topic: Why are people so against abortions?

DXMEOWTH started this discussion 14 years ago #18,840

How many of you remember when you were one year old? Now how many of you remember being six months old? Alright, now how about how many of you actually remember being in your mother's womb?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #311,351

> Alright, now how about how many of you actually remember being in your mother's womb?
si senior

DXMEOWTH (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,353

@previous (B)
I just don't understand. My memory is definitely fucked, but I've never met anyone remember being that young.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,354

Why are people so against murdering spics?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,356

they believe that fetuses are humans and shouldn't be killed. some people also want to control women by controlling their bodies. If men could get pregnant, then this would never be an issue.

DXMEOWTH (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 9 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,357

@311,354 (C)
As long as innocent people don't get hurt, it doesn't bother me.

DXMEOWTH (OP) double-posted this 14 years ago, 46 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,358

@311,356 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)

> If men could get pregnant, then this would never be an issue.

I have to agree with that.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,361

@previous (DXMEOWTH)
can you imagine what it would be like to have the risk of pregnancy? How many times have you had sex without a condom?

DXMEOWTH (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,362

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Lol. That would suck so bad. I mean, these days I fuck on the daily.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,363

@previous (DXMEOWTH)
people never think of that. some don't even want abortions to be had by rape and incest victims.
can you imagine being forced to carry your father's child?

DXMEOWTH (OP) replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,364

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I agree. There's many more reasons than just because one doesn't simply want a child. If I had a kid coming my way and found out it would be retarded, I'd abort that shit. Not to be selfish, but I wouldn't torture my child having to live with a condition like that. Plus, I can barely take care of myself. My girl takes care of me more than I take care of me.

(Edited 7 seconds later.)

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #311,365

@311,354 (C)
hispanics are people with families that love and rely on them.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 51 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #311,368

Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,369

@311,356 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Fetuses are human, you autistic mess. The debate is over whether they are legally protected "persons"; not their species. Fuck.

Your pathetic "divide and conquer" class/race/sex warfare arguments are truly disgusting. The first objection that you mentioned would still be 100% relevant with hypothetical male pregnancies. Grow up.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,370

@311,363 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Can you imagine being murdered because people don't like your parents?

Anonymous C triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,371

@311,364 (DXMEOWTH)
You are so humane. Murdering people is so much more conscientious than caring for a kid with Downs Syndrome.

Anonymous C quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,372

@311,365 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Cool, I'll only kill orphans from now on. Or people whose families don't love them. Or people whose families do love them, but don't rely on them.

Are you so uncritical of your own thoughts that this did not occur to you? Do you not have any process for logically vetting thoughts before you express them?

Anonymous C quintuple-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,373

@311,368 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Why are people so against slavery?
> Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.
> Why are people so against genocide?
> Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.
> Why are people so against rape?
> Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.
> Why are people so against segregation?
> Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.
> Why are people so against censorship?
> Because they're naive or just enjoy having something to yell about.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,374

@previous (C)
Haha, yes because those are all exactly the same as abortion!

Do you view the destruction of an acorn as deforestation?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 38 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,390

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
What?! You think those things are the same as abortion?

The destruction of an acorn is the destruction of a single unit. Deforestation is the destruction of multiple units. What a stupid question!

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,395

@previous (C)
Anonymous C, are you a turkey?

HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,396

@311,373 (C)
> Why are people so against involuntary segregation?
FTFY

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 51 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,398

@311,374 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
To someone who views fœtuses as human beings, destruction of a fœtus is murder, so to the pro-life crowd it probably is the same as those things, if not to me and you.

HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,399

The reason as to why the old republicans are so against abortion: if they keep on aborting their babies, then there will be less people to pay for our social security benefits.

dw joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,403

I think that argument would make sense if abortion was time travel from birth to around 5 years old.

green joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,407

Because they want the earth to be over-populated and run out of resources.

dw replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,409

@previous (green)
yes because the point of legalizing abortions is to abort as many people as possible

green replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,411

@previous (dw)

We have too much population at the moment. Saying abortion should be nit legal makes it worse.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,412

@311,396 (HaikerensGuide !0VegJ9Jl.Q)
That is what I meant. Sorry for not being more specific.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,413

@311,411 (green)
We have too much population at the moment. Saying murder should be nit legal makes it worse.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 29 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,420

I'm against it because I'm male, pro equality, and haven't been pussy whipped by the insanity that is feminism. Abortion affords females a monopoly on infanticide. In a just society, Men would have equal access to the termination of their genetic material as women currently enjoy.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 37 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,427

@311,369 (C)
Not autistic, not trying to divide and conquer I stand by my words.
If men could have children we would not even be having this discussion. I would never want to force anyone to carry or deliver an unwanted fetus. it's not humane, and puts the right of the unborn child above the mother.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,428

@311,370 (C)
I would never force a person to carry a rape or incest baby. that's sick, and shows complete callousness for the victim.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,429

@311,412 (C)
You never answered my question.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,432

@311,427 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Ah yes, but is it not equally inhumane to force a father to support an ugly burdensome genetic mutant? What makes a woman's reasons for not wanting a child to live any more valid than a man's?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,435

@previous (J)
I never said anyone had a more valid reason. less abortions equal more unwanted children. I wouldnt force a male to carry an unwanted child.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 17 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,444

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
So why object to a male murdering his child minutes after birth?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,449

@previous (J)
we are talking about someones body. when a fetus is in the womb, and feeding off the the parent's nutrients, it is part of their body. people should be able to control their own bodies.

picture this: a twelve year old boy is raped by his father. he had his menses a few months ago and is now pregnant. that child would be forced to go through the pain of carrying a baby, and giving birth, having it'd body ruined, and every day for nine months as the little boys stomach grows, he is reminded about what his father did. I would never put someone through that.

Also, this baby would probably end up raised by the state, and we have many unwanted children here.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,455

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Unfortunately, it's actually not part of the woman's body. It is in fact a separate entity altogether are evidenced by its unique DNA. A fucking hangnail is more a part of a woman's body than a fetus is. All science on the subject seems to indicate the fetus is in fact ITS OWN BODY.

I believe what you meant to say was a fetus is not viable without support from the mother's biological processes, and therefore she has an inherent right to protect her interest by refusing participation in what is ultimately an exploitative relationship.

But of course, you couldn't make such an argument as it applies to birthed children as well, seeing as how they are entirely incapable of sustaining their own lives.

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,456

@previous (J)
It's part of her body if it feeds off of them and can't live apart. I give precedence to the person who has already made an impact on other peoples lives, not a clump of cells. you didn't even mention the scenario. would you let a sweet twelve year old boy carry an incest baby? I never would.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,457

@311,455 (J)
Do you think that the 12 year old would be grateful later? thank you government and the Christians for making me give birth to a rapist child. I'm a kid myself, and my body is fucked. there is a baby that I can't raise, and I probably wont ever see again. how swell.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,458

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
sorry timmy. even though some adults would like to have sex with children, they wont allow mistakes to be taken care of. Ron Paul 2012.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,460

I just don't get it. you don't believe in big government, yet you want the government to be able to dictate what people can do with their own body. you want to have sex with kids, but the children will have no options if they get pregnant. just bizarre.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo quintuple-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,462

I would never force a loli or shota to carry a rape baby.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,465

@311,456 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
The scenario is irrelevant because circumstances are open to subjective interpretations, and therefore, are not to be equated with facts.

Also, you're argument a fetus is part of the woman's body has been scientifically disprove and as such, it's not one ounce less ignorant than arguing a vegan is a vegetable because it is vegetation which sustains them.

(Edited 46 seconds later.)

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,466

@previous (J)
the scenarios is irrelevant? it just makes you uncomfortable, so you don't like thinking about it.

green replied with this 14 years ago, 57 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,467

@311,413 (C)

abortion=/=murder

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,469

@311,465 (J)
would you or would you not force a twelve year old boy to carry his dad's child?

(Edited 7 seconds later.)

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 23 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,470

@311,467 (green)
have you ever had sex without a condom green?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo triple-posted this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,471

@311,469 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
well? would you?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 17 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,472

@311,465 (J)
would you make let a person die to save the child?

dw replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,473

@311,469 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
boys dont have vaginas thanks

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 23 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,478

@311,466 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
It doesn't make me uncomfortable at all. I'm fine with people being pro-infanticide if that is indeed their position.

What I'm not fine with is people hoisting their bullshit rationalizations and relabeling of scientific reality to serve the status quo.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,479

@OP

> Alright, now how about how many of you actually remember being in your mother's womb?

Every time I go down on my GF, I try to relive being inside the Womb, and dive in and stay there as much & often as possible.

green replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,526

@311,470 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I've very rarely had sex with a condom.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 29 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,533

@311,427 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
> Not autistic,
Then you have no excuse for your idiotic statements.

> not trying to divide and conquer I stand by my words.
Everyone can make a mistake but to seriously consider the matter and continue to support it again shows an inability to think logically.

> If men could have children we would not even be having this discussion.
Stating it again doesn't make your argument stronger. As you yourself admit

> they believe that fetuses are humans and shouldn't be killed.

and would continue to so so in a world of male pregnancy.

> I would never want to force anyone to carry or deliver an unwanted fetus. it's not humane, and puts the right of the unborn child above the mother.
There is no right to kill. The idea that you can disguise the advocacy of killing by purporting to oppose forcing people not to kill is laughably puerile. If you had logically considered the matter this would have become apparent to you.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,534

@311,428 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I would never kill a person because I don't like their father. that's sick, and shows complete callousness for the victim.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,535

@previous (C)
But are you a turkey, Anonymous C?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,536

@311,456 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
All people are just clumps of cells. I wish you could escape your emotional fuzzy-thinking and embrace science and logic. Breasts are parts of a female's body and a born child feeds off them and can't live without them.

VapiresAreReal !hEyBrieeXM joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 26 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,537

i like dis thread

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,539

@311,457 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
@311,458 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
The solution is to murder a child. Good thinking. waaaaaah the government forced me not to kill! muh rights

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,540

@311,460 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
> I just don't get it. you don't believe in big government, yet you want the government to be able to dictate what people can do with their own body (i.e. stop people from killing other people). you want to have sex with kids, but the children will have no options if they get pregnant (because the option to kill the other person is the only option in all social relationships). just bizarre.

stop you're embarrassing yourself

Anonymous C triple-posted this 14 years ago, 25 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,541

@311,462 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I would never kill a child because I don't like their father.

Anonymous C quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 43 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,542

@311,467 (green)
murder ≠ rape

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 35 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,543

@311,540 (C)
You're a turkey. Turkeys cannot understand human issues like abortion.

Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,581

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
10/10

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,673

@311,540 (C)
so would you force a twelve year old boy to carry his father's child to term? you keep sidestepping this question.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,726

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
> boy
srsly wtf is wrong wit u

The question is flawed. I would not force a child to carry her father's child to term - this would involve me forcing her to be inseminated, prevent her from using the pill, and prevent her from miscarrying naturally. I would stop her from deliberately murdering her fetus, though.

Do you support laws against murder???

Fox !FXYGNx1XR. joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,727

@OP
> How many of you remember when you were one year old?
I do, lol.

(Edited 11 seconds later.)

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 14 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,741

@311,726 (C)
if a child were to get pregnant by their father, should she be allowed to have an abortion?

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,746

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Well isn't this an instance of rape?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,748

@previous (N)
I would say so. I'm asking his opinion on it. I want him to say it.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #311,763

@311,726 (C)
I'm saying he, because it might help you feel empathetic to females. if you can imagine what it would be like if you could get pregnant yourself.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,846

@311,741 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I never support the initiation of violence.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,848

@311,763 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
You're fucking retarded. Men are more empathetic to females. Men think other men are arseholes. Women and particularly young women are delicate flowers that must be protected and allowed to bloom

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,913

@311,763 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
You've just lost all credibility dude.

When you discover logic one day, you'll realize we live in a society which condones termination of human life simply because the perpetrator is female. That's certainly not the result of insufficient empathy for the female burden in human reproduction, but rather an excess of it.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,922

@311,846 (C)
so you would force a child to carry an incest baby, just checking.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,923

@311,913 (J)
I dont believe that's true at all.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo triple-posted this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,925

@311,913 (J)
If were could get pregnant, they would want to be able to have abortions and would legislate appropriately. there's nothing wrong with that. People should have this option. I'll bet that most men on this site would terminate an unwanted pregnancy, and that's okay. Many men here have had sex without condoms, which if would result in a risk of pregnancy every time. Imagine that.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo quadruple-posted this 14 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,927

@311,913 (J)
No really. It might be an empathy thing. MM is perfectly fine with making a little girl give birth to her father's child. Would he feel the same way if it could happen to a little boy? Would he feel the same way if it could happen to him? Do you feel like rape victims should be allowed to abort?

(Edited 29 seconds later.)

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,953

@311,922 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Why do you keep coming back to that? You've made your point. You want society to look the other way when a rape victim chooses to terminate the offspring of her attacker. That's fine if you feel that way, but at least grow some balls and tell it like it is.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,958

@311,927 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
FUCK you are DUMB

i HATE boys
i LIKE girls

apart from the idiotic nature of the premise, it doesn't even make sense to use it on me

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,960

@previous (C)
You're a very angry turkey. I thought turkeys were meant to be happy creatures?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,961

@311,922 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
I have already explained that that could not possibly be the case. To force a child to carry an incest baby would require you to force the impregnation, deny the pill, and deny all medical advice in the advent of harm to the mother. at least you're not evil, but goddamn you are dumb

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,962

@311,953 (J)
We should kill unwanted fetuses. we would do so for men, and we should do so for women.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,963

@311,961 (C)
sorry, you'd not allow them to abort an incest baby. very different, and clearly not horrible.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo triple-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,964

@311,961 (C)
Also, why cant you have a discussion without making personal insults? It's not mature, and reflects poorly on you.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,965

@311,925 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Okay, now we're getting to the core of your insanity.

> I'll bet that most men on this site would terminate an unwanted pregnancy, and that's okay.

Since you seem so fond of silly questions as opposed to arguing your points directly, I'll ask you this: If a man were to drug a woman and forcibly abort his own child, was a crime committed?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,966

@previous (J)
yes, because he assaulted her. it was also be a crime to infect someone with a disease or parasite.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,967

@311,965 (J)
Could I hold you done and cut off your leg? could I forcibly castrate you?

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,968

@311,962 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
> we would do so for men
No, we wouldn't. You can not actually believe this. You can not be this mongoloid.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,969

@311,963 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
BACK the FUCK up. I do not support murdering the fetus, but I am not opposed to terminating or aborting the pregnancy. Two very different concepts.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,970

@311,968 (C)
Ad hominem.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,971

@311,968 (C)
I do believe it. I believe that most men would want to be able to have abortions (nothing wrong with that). things change when you're the one who could get pregnant. If a certain percentage of people believe in the legality of abortion, and a certain percentage are against it, don't you think that those numbers would change if suddenly, men could get pregnant? this is not an attack on anyone.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 6 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,972

@311,964 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
can you have a discussion without posting illogical bullshit?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,973

@311,969 (C)
okay.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,974

@311,972 (C)
see? learn to relax and discuss things calmly.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,976

@311,970 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You toothless british faggot. Please educate yourself on what an ad hominem actually is. An insult is not an ad hominem. An ad hominem is where you attempt to support your own argument or refute your opponents argument by attacking the arguer's person.

twatface

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,978

@previous (C)
False dichotomy and ad hominem.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,979

@311,967 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
You didn't answer the question. LOL.

You see your whole argument falls apart once you're forced to face up to the reality that men do indeed have unwanted children. It happens every fucking day dude. Not only that, these men will be held legally accountable if they intentionally interfere with the development of these unwanted children in any way.

Why not afford men the same freedom of choice as you're willing to extend to women?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 14 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,980

100 get

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,981

Image went missing@311,971 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
you are wrong, sorry.

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,982

@311,978 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
kill yourself immediately!

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,984

@311,979 (J)
I did answer the question. performing a surgery on someone without their consent is wrong and illegal.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,986

@311,981 (C)
that's not proof. More men would be pro choice if they could get pregnant.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,989

@311,984 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Birthing my child without my consent is wrong and should be illegal.

By the way you didn't answer the question. You asked a question. A question is not an answer. Claiming a question is an answer is illogical.

(Edited 6 minutes later.)

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,991

@311,986 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
That makes sense. Women and men support abortion at the same rate. Women can get pregnant, and men can't. If men could get pregnant they would support abortion more than women, who can get pregnant, support abortion.


Or you could stop being retarded and admit that logic and evidence shows that support for abortion is based upon moral principles that are consistent across genders.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,992

@311,989 (J)
okay. thats a different argument altogether. you can't decide that someone has to have a procedure without their consent. it's wrong.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,994

@311,991 (C)
so you believe that if men could get pregnant, only fifty percent of men would believe in abortion? I dont buy that at all. the numbers would not stay the same that makes no sense. once again, you insulted me. you are old enough to discuss things in a mature manner.

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,995

@311,992 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
But a woman can decide that I have to have a fucking KID without my consent. What makes that violation any more right than the other?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,996

@311,979 (J)
your "freedom" would infringe on the rights of other people, because you cannot control someones body, or make medical decisions for them without consent.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,997

@311,995 (J)
Is it a violation or perhaps a civil matter? If you don't consent, what happens to the fetus?

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,998

@311,996 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
Then how can you condone child support? The child's right to life infringes on my right to property.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #311,999

@previous (J)
that's a different matter entirely. either parent can pay child support, and that's to offset the burden of raising a child. otherwise the state would do it. once a child leaves the mother, it's a separate person and needs care. your feelings on child support should actually help you support abortion, right?

Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #312,001

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)

The state forces fathers to pay child support numbnuts.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #312,002

@previous (J)
sometimes.

kook !nH6RAuX8mo double-posted this 14 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #312,003

I'm going to work. can someone bump this later tonight? thanks.

Anonymous C replied with this 14 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #312,011

@311,994 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
> so you believe that if women could get pregnant, only fifty percent of women would believe in abortion? I dont buy that at all.

except that is exactly what fucking happens irl you nitwit

Anonymous C double-posted this 14 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #312,012

@311,996 (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)
and yet you are controlling the fetus' body and performing medical procdures on it without its consent
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