Anonymous A started this discussion 14 years ago#17,485
The days of wearing a suit and tie seem to be escaping a little more every day. Do you work in a field where you can wear what you want or is a suit or uniform required or strongly encouraged?
> The days of wearing a suit and tie seem to be escaping a little more every day.
Thank fuck for that. I never understood the need to be so ridiculously formal every day.
> Do you work in a field where you can wear what you want or is a suit or uniform required or strongly encouraged?
My job requires a "tidy business" dress code, which generally means a shirt and trousers. After 5pm it's a lot more casual and jeans/tshirt are fine.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,210
> business suit > ridiculously formal
o lordy
adult males not wearing suits look like manchildren
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,216
This website is full of a bunch of angsty teenagers you braindead trainwreck. Do you really think any of them have a job?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 37 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,218
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 30 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,225
Suit up and wear vans with one black one blue shoelace... that's the most formal I can be... and a hoodie is sewed to my blazer... so yeah...
I also find it unserious when you need to dress "serious" to be taken seriously... that tradition can fuck off...
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,226
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
you have to dress well to be taken seriously
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,227
I can pretty much wear whatever, since I'm not out front dealing with the diners. If I was ever offered a go at being a waiter then I'd have to wear a uniform.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,234
That's judging a book by it's cover. That usually tells me to stay away from such jobs cause they obviously prefer looks over skills... and don't tell me it's "dressing up in a suit shows responsibility bla bla..." that's just shit.
adam jensen !AIy/L67q.s joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,299
@295,226 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
says the guy thinking it's still the 80s
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,351
@295,234 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
a book doesn't choose its cover... you chose your clothes... wearing a suit doesn't show responsibility it shows class...
adam jensen !AIy/L67q.s replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,354
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
it shows you think you are superior to everyone else
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,444
@295,351 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
My clothes are choosen by a higher force I have no controll over, it all depends on how they come out of the washing machine, that determinates in what order I iron them and put in my closet. It's all random, determinated by a mysterious force that controls the universe, once they are in the closet I just pick what's on top of each pile (pants, shirt ... ) and wear that.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,452
The days of the suit and die are not going away. Teenagers and college students just think they are, so they show up to job interviews in sandals wondering why they can't get a job, so they join the occupy movement and bitch about it with all the other dirty hippies.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,457
@295,444 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
if he was wearing a tshirt and jeans this photo would be shit
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,479
@295,225 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
You are so dumb it blows my mind.
@295,452 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You are so dumb it blows my mind.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 30 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#295,502
@295,452 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You are so dumb it blows my mind.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,603
@295,457 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Will you vote for Ron Paul cause he looks badass in a suit or cause he is actually a good candidate?
Have you ever listened to him talking over the radio? Did you take him serious cause you knew he was in a suit while in the studio... for all you know he could have given a radio interview in boxers only, lol.
Sure there were situations where even I suited up (mostly "greymailing" where just my presence needed to make a statement, but it was more like black suit, blood red button-up + blood red tie rather than black/blue/white corporate style) but those are just mental games... work related I dress to feel comfortable and that doesn't include a suit... if that doesn't score me a job than I'm fine with it, I'd rather not have it than be doomed to a suit every day... so far I've done well without one...
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,615
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
That you don't feel comfortable in a suit is a sign that you are a manchild
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,620
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Only someone with the mind of a child says he's grown up.
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,624
Suits are for weddings and funerals and businesses stuck in 1952. Enjoy your anacronistic monkey suits.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,731
@295,620 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
im sure you actually believe that
@previous (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
actually suits today are totally different cut to 50s suits
Handel !khEOdtKF56 joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,819
> ITT Manchildren
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,822
@previous (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
Correct. I trust Handel's judgement because he's simply fabulous!
Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 14 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#295,866
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#295,977
@295,731 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
It's funny tho how you skipped the entire Ron Paul part and completely missed the point of the second part of y post, and rather just insulted me by calling me a manchild... that's how children argue usually... also my dad is stronger etc.
But well, didn't expect much more from a pedo tbh. have a nice life bro...
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#295,986
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Ron Paul wouldn't be the cultural phenomenon he is if he was a manchild in shorts and a tshirt. People dress like that to escape growing up and avoid responsibility.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#295,987
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Can you answer question by question. > Will you vote for Ron Paul cause he looks badass in a suit or cause he is actually a good candidate?
> Have you ever listened to him talking over the radio?
> Did you take him serious cause you knew he was in a suit while in the studio?
Thanks
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,002
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
I only know about Ron Paul because he is not a tshirt and short wearing manchild. If he didn't wear suits I wouldn't know about him.
I have never heard him over the radio, but I have heard speeches online.
Yes, I take him seriously and support him with money, buy his books and merchandise, share about him on social media, talk about him irl, because he is not a manchild.
mountainman !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 14 years ago, 50 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,003
@295,987 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
no, ill just keep sidestepping the question because i don't want to admit i got beat. oh wait
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,005
@296,002 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Doesn't sound like judging a book by it's cover at all.
Also, what does Ron Paul merch include? Ron Paul shirts/baseball caps/cups ... or a Ron Paul button up shirt + Blazer and fine pants? I mean, I can't imagine you in a Ron Paul shirt after all this 50s shittalk.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,011
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
I'm 22 years old and play rock music at church... I wear tshirts, button ups, rolled up pants, snapback caps and slip on shoes for youth services... suit for more adult services... smart casual for uni, as a rule I try not to be more formal than the person in charge... Australian temperatures prohibit suit wearing except in extensively air conditioned environments, and my uni lacks that.
The idea of RP merch is to bring the ideas to young people who haven't heard it yet. I get asked about my RP or Rothbard shirts all the time
mountainman !faggot replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,013
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
you forgot to put diddling kids in that list
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,015
adam jensen !AIy/L67q.s replied with this 14 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,022
@296,011 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos) > rock music at church > rock music > church
squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,094
I like how MM's only alternative to suits for business attire are shorts and t-shirts. There's nothing in between.
Yup, when i think of business profesionals and their attire i think of Steve Jobs. The only reason he was taken seriously was because of his strict and formal personal dress code.
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#296,180
> I like how MM's only alternative to suits for business attire are shorts and t-shirts. There's nothing in between. > > Yup, when i think of business profesionals and their attire i think of Steve Jobs. The only reason he was taken seriously was because of his strict and formal personal dress code.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,463
@previous (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
All grandmothers think you're a handsome young man when you walk into church. But you better hide from the bullies and sport jocks...
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,468
@296,422 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
are they blue jeans?
astromermaid joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 42 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,472
gotta dress classy to stay classy~
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,490
@296,463 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
if by "grandmothers" you mean "20-year-old women" and by "church" you mean "everywhere"
> Sure there were situations where even I suited up (mostly "greymailing" where just my presence needed to make a statement, but it was more like black suit, blood red button-up + blood red tie rather than black/blue/white corporate style) but those are just mental games... work related I dress to feel comfortable and that doesn't include a suit... if that doesn't score me a job than I'm fine with it, I'd rather not have it than be doomed to a suit every day... so far I've done well without one...
You know, there are ways to look fashion-forward in a suit without looking like a frat-boy or 15-year-old at his first homecoming... I don't know if you can even get a red dress shirt anywhere other than Wal-mart.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 38 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,681
@296,490 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
and patent leather shoes?
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos double-posted this 14 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,683
@296,663 (J)
pretty much sounds like the angstiest green day emo greasy hair outfit
Indy Consulting !!EglxmlW2Z joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,686
> show up to interview dirty and wearing shorts, flip-flops, ratty t-shirt, and backwards baseball cap > baffled why never get hired > claim not to be Autistic
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,691
@296,681 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Just regular calfskin. I polished them a little though.
Negi Springfield !N0QcOU.M1E joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 55 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,723
@295,615 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
Do half adult and half manchild.
Ok, don't do it.
(Edited 50 seconds later.)
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,729
@296,691 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
you do not wear black with blue, shiny shoes are formal and should not be worn with casual suits, let alone jeans
you do not look casual, you look like you're trying way too hard, but at the same time, you don't look classy. It is the worst of both worlds.
You can wear a suit casually. wear loafers with it. roll up the pants etc. there is no need for denim unless you work a physical job like a farmer or a mechanic or something.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 41 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,770
@previous (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
I'm not wearing any black. The style/design of the shoe matters just as much as the material, and the shoes are as casual as they get for leather shoes. They can absolutely be worn with jeans, such an essential part of American casual style I'm not even going to address "there is no need for denim." Styleforum disagrees almost 100% with you.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,896
@296,663 (J) > I don't know if you can even get a red dress shirt anywhere other than Wal-mart.
WhatthefuckamIreading.trojan.exe
But it's probably true for america, here in Euroland we have specialized shops for such classy stuff... I might drop by such a shop later on to take a pic so you can see how the euro-masterrace goes shopping...
Also, pic related... not really a frat-boy or 15-year-old at his first homecoming...
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 59 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,915
@296,770 (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
your shoes are black. this only acceptable for a post office worker or bus driver. brown or oxblood would be far more casual, loafers can be casual too. You're not dressed casual though. If you were wearing vans and a snapback, wear some rolled up skinny jeans with it, cool. what you're doing is like wearing overalls to a dinner party.
@previous (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
same color tie and jacket = security guard (no cuff makes it look like that too) but you've taken it to another level by matching the pocket square to the tie and shirt it looks like a prom suit
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,942
@296,896 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
No, it's not true, there's just a lot of aspie bullshit going on ITT. Nice red dress shirts are easy to find at Kohl's, Men's Warehouse, Express Men, and lots of other places. Walmart is probably the only place I wouldn't be able to find a nice red dress shirt.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 31 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#296,948
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4) > nice > red dress shirt
you're right there's a lot of aspie bullshit ITT
Anonymous J replied with this 14 years ago, 43 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#296,951
@296,915 (mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos)
I told you already, my shoes aren't black. They're brown. Your "example" happens to describe the way you dress exactly l; you're talking about how The Sheep is a manchild (agreed) but Vans and snapbacks are almost exclusively worn by children.
@296,896 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
Looks like shit. Did you put that on just to take a picture for MC? LOL.
@296,942 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
You've proved my point, as none of those places sell good clothing. They're all on Walmart's level.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 21 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#296,956
@previous (J)
next time you take a pic to show off try having some light lol. i explained that's how I dress when appropriate e.g. youth/young adult social events. vans + snapbacks are worn by celebrities and performing artists. children wear them to emulate those people. i would never wear these if i wanted to look "good", eg at uni or at work or politics group etc.
> You've proved my point, as none of those places sell good clothing. They're all on Walmart's level.
my thought exactly
Anonymous K replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#296,962
...and my iq just dropped 20 points reading this thread
bobby2sox !!ztPBX/o0I joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 50 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#296,974
Born this Way replied with this 14 years ago, 48 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#296,982
You're alright, MM.
mountainman !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,004
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,024
@296,942 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4) @296,951 (J)
Lol... if you read my post, this suit combo had a purpose, it had to talk instead of me.
Not job interview related, not picking up girls relevant, not going to church etc. if it wasn't for that special occasion I wouldn't wear it... but I've dealth with dinosaurs from at 19th century (the one you suit guys are stuck in) and I had no other angle to approach the situation from.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,027
Yes, I'm sure your "presence made a statement" as you stood there looking like a teenager dressing up for the first time.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 14 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,079
@previous (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
If you knew under how awesome terms I left Slovenia, my old job and college, you wouldn't have this attitude. :D
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,107
It's entirely possible to succeed while still looking like total shit. It's just harder, and some of us prefer to look good.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 14 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,129
@previous (Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA)
False dichotomy.
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA replied with this 14 years ago, 21 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#297,131