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Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,421
@previous (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
If you knew how to read the link shows how to adjust the policy. An uneducated guess would be to remove the obscure keyword.
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Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,424
@281,420 (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
Or you could simply remove your password all together by doing:
1. passwd -d username
2. sudo sed -i 's/#PasswordRequired=false/PasswordRequired=false/' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
3. sudo sed -i 's/nullok_secure/nullok/' /etc/pam.d/common-auth
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dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,427
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,428
@previous (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
Because setting it to four spaces isn't just as bad?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,433
@281,427 (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
It used to be that setting a password as root bypassed all this. I'm not sure if root can still set non-secure passwords, but sudo passwd username might be worth a try. If not, just remove obscure and max statements from your common-password as @281,415 (B) suggests.
dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,435
@281,428 (B)
most people wouldn't guess four spaces
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,437
@previous (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
Security through obscurity is poor practice.
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dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#281,438
@281,433 (D)
yeah ill do this
thank you anon b and d
@advi
nah, i think it's just because it's the same symbols four times.
Meowth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 39 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#281,448
@281,435 (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
Say hello to my many password lists.
advi !!3gpAcg/hF replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,482
@previous (Meowth)
You should see the leaked accounts.csv from MtGox. It's horrifying what some people use as their password.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,563
> Or you could simply remove your password all together by doing: > 1. passwd -d username > 2. sudo sed -i 's/#PasswordRequired=false/PasswordRequired=false/' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf > 3. sudo sed -i 's/nullok_secure/nullok/' /etc/pam.d/common-auth
This is why I gave up on trying to use Linux. In Windows, I click a button that says "remove password." In Ubuntu, I have to do all that shit. And it's like that for everything. Every time I look up how to do something it's more of that sudo bullshit.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,578
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
That's because Linux isn't a GUI OS. It's a command-line operating system with a tremendous amount of possibilities which they then put a graphical shell around that doesn't yet provide access to all configuration options.
Also, sudo just means run as administrator. Sed is replace text in a file, I could have also worded it like this:
1. run passwd -d username
2. Open /etc/gdm/gdm.conf in your favorite text editor as root and change PasswordRequired to false
3. Open /etc/pam.d/common-auth in your favorite text editor as root and change nullok_secure to nullok
Of course this is more than a hassle than just pressing a button, and it's not for everyone.
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,626
@previous (B)
Well there are a lot of things I like about Ubuntu, and a lot of thing I think they still need to improve on, specifically the graphical shell to make the OS more intuitive rather than having to look up/memorize command lines to do the simplest of tasks.
Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,631
I think it's supposed to not be simple on purpose.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,637
@previous (Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc)
You mean the retarded "it's 10 times more complicated for me to do it this way and that makes me better than you" logic? I understand that being able to control every aspect of the OS through the command line makes it a very powerful OS, but there's no reason to intentionally make things complicated just to feel better about yourself. We use GUIs for a reason. If Ubuntu wants to continue on the path to being a successful OS, they need to continue to improve their GUI to make the tasks intuitive. The whole point of a GUI is to make things intuitive.
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Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,638
> You mean the retarded "it's 10 times more complicated for me to do it this way and that makes me better than you" logic?
No more like the "This isn't something you should be doing so we will make it difficult so dumbfucks who cannot handle the responsibility cannot do it whilst still letting you be able to do it if you are savvy enough" logic
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,639
@previous (Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc)
I still disagree with that logic. You don't have to be savvy to be responsible, and those who are savvy can still do stupid things. If someone's going to do something stupid, they can still look up the commands to do so. At least in a GUI, you can set up all sorts of warnings and explanations about what you're doing. Like I said, the whole point of a GUI is to be intuitive. Also, there are plenty of things in Ubuntu that you still have to enter commands to do that don't cause any sort of compromise to the OS, and it's those things that Ubuntu needs to continue to improve.
The mentality that if you're not smart enough to know the commands then it shouldn't be done is a stupid, elitist mentality, and it's the biggest thing holding back Linux. Linux users who think this way are the biggest thing holding back Linux.
Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,640
But it helps. And stupid people rarely read warnings and explanations. They just click through.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,641
@previous (Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc)
That's their problem. If you want Linux to continue to be the obscure hipster OS where only a few CS elitists know how to really use it, and that makes you feel special, fine. Keep things the way they are. But if Ubuntu wants it to be a free alternative that anyone in the community can pick up an use, then they need to use the GUI to make it more intuitive instead of users having to constantly Google what command lines are needed to make it do what you want. Currently, that's what they're working on, but they have a long way to go.
dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,642
@281,626 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
What can't you do from the ui that you actually use on a daily basis?
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,643
@previous (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
it's not so much the stuff I do on a daily basis as it's stuff to initially set stuff up and get it to do what you want. Last time I installed Ubuntu, the clock was never right. Rather than just having a button that says "sync time to servers" or something like that, or doing it automatically, I had to Google the command line to get it to do this. Or installing software, or getting drivers for the wifi adapter installed and working, or looking up the command lines to get it to properly mount a hard drive so I could back up my drive. Things like that where they could easily make safe, intuitive, GUI alternatives to looking up every god damn command line on Google.
Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,646
dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,665
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
There is a sync time button. Otherwise you could just use the menu you get when you click on the time
dw !AIy/L67q.s (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#281,666
Also for installing software manually if you want to do that for some reason you just give the file permission to execute and then double-click. there's no reason to actually do that though since everything is in the software center.
advi !!3gpAcg/hF joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#281,832
@previous (dw !AIy/L67q.s)
Not to mention PPAs. Fuck manual updating.