Topic: Two large Dutch internet providers have to block The Pirate Bay.
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #16,262
It's an outrage. And utterly useless and maybe the end of the free internet we got used to in Holland. Picture related.Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #280,452
The Pirate Bay doesn't even have a tracker anymore, so all people have to do is use hidemyass or something to actually get hold of the torrent file, right?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #280,453
dw !AIy/L67q.s joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #280,454
idc
r04r !GETFUCKED joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #280,459
@280,452 (Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc)
Yes, the current move is a bit pointless but the interesting part is that the ISPs also have to block every future domain/IP that organization BREIN (Dutch copyright org funded by music industry & maybe taxes) provides to them that is related to thepiratebay.
I'm looking forward to TPB mirrors on shared webhosts, so that if the IP gets blocked a ton of legit other sites also become inaccessible. If only the domain gets blocked the mirror will still be available when using OpenDNS or Google's Public DNS.
In fact, I might do that when the law passes and see what happens.
Yes, the current move is a bit pointless but the interesting part is that the ISPs also have to block every future domain/IP that organization BREIN (Dutch copyright org funded by music industry & maybe taxes) provides to them that is related to thepiratebay.
I'm looking forward to TPB mirrors on shared webhosts, so that if the IP gets blocked a ton of legit other sites also become inaccessible. If only the domain gets blocked the mirror will still be available when using OpenDNS or Google's Public DNS.
In fact, I might do that when the law passes and see what happens.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,479
@previous (r04r !GETFUCKED)
Smart! Also the IP addresses have to be blocked too, it is in the court verdict. XS4ALL is going to appeal though, and knowing them they will go to the European High Court.
Smart! Also the IP addresses have to be blocked too, it is in the court verdict. XS4ALL is going to appeal though, and knowing them they will go to the European High Court.
r04r !GETFUCKED replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,480
@previous (A)
I know, that's why I was going for a shared server, with a shared IP with a ton of other sites.
I know, that's why I was going for a shared server, with a shared IP with a ton of other sites.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,488
Isn't there always a way to access blocked websites?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,494
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,671
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,748
Pirate Bay should've installed a moat.r04r !GETFUCKED replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,750
@280,671 (G)
They upload them to the site, which offers them up for searching. Once you have a torrent file you find other peers (from which you download the data) using some of the trackers listed (Each torrent has multiple trackers, the pirate bay doesn't have a tracker but there are others) and most importantly DHT and PEX.
The first one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table which basically is a decentralized tracker in which a lot of torrent clients participate and constantly exchange information on where to find what.
The second one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_exchange which is a bit simpler and basically is that when you discover a new peer (through DHT/Tracker/Whatever) that has relevant information to the swarm you're in, you pass that peer's info on to the others in the swarm.
In previous versions of the protocol a tracker was required to find other peers, but with DHT, PEX and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme (alternative to .torrent files) it's possible to distribute a torrent without any centralized servers. It will however take a bit longer to find other peers.
They upload them to the site, which offers them up for searching. Once you have a torrent file you find other peers (from which you download the data) using some of the trackers listed (Each torrent has multiple trackers, the pirate bay doesn't have a tracker but there are others) and most importantly DHT and PEX.
The first one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table which basically is a decentralized tracker in which a lot of torrent clients participate and constantly exchange information on where to find what.
The second one is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_exchange which is a bit simpler and basically is that when you discover a new peer (through DHT/Tracker/Whatever) that has relevant information to the swarm you're in, you pass that peer's info on to the others in the swarm.
In previous versions of the protocol a tracker was required to find other peers, but with DHT, PEX and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme (alternative to .torrent files) it's possible to distribute a torrent without any centralized servers. It will however take a bit longer to find other peers.
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Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,760
r04r !GETFUCKED replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #280,763
Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,794
http://torrentfreak.com/emi-sues-irish-state-for-not-implementing-piracy-blocking-provisions-120112/
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,807
@280,750 (r04r !GETFUCKED)
When I open magnet links in uTorrent they never list the files they have like .torrent files do. Why is this?
When I open magnet links in uTorrent they never list the files they have like .torrent files do. Why is this?
r04r !GETFUCKED replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,809
@previous (C)
How long have you waited? Did you wait until it actually started downloading properly?
Most magnet links starts off with only the unique torrent hash, so in order for it to know any additional details it first needs to retrieve them from the swarm by means of DHT. Once it did that the details should be available under the files tab where you can then prioritize.
How long have you waited? Did you wait until it actually started downloading properly?
Most magnet links starts off with only the unique torrent hash, so in order for it to know any additional details it first needs to retrieve them from the swarm by means of DHT. Once it did that the details should be available under the files tab where you can then prioritize.
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Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,841
@previous (r04r !GETFUCKED)
> Most magnet links starts off with only the unique torrent hash, so in order for it to know any additional details it first needs to retrieve them from the swarm by means of DHT. Once it did that the details should be available under the files tab where you can then prioritize
Ah that explains it. Thanks
> Most magnet links starts off with only the unique torrent hash, so in order for it to know any additional details it first needs to retrieve them from the swarm by means of DHT. Once it did that the details should be available under the files tab where you can then prioritize
Ah that explains it. Thanks
Anonymous C double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,858
http://thepiratebay.org/blog/196
> It happens all the time that people try to shut down TPB. But mostly it's in countries like China and North Korea.
Wat. I thought the only people who have Internet access in North Korea are high ranking KWP party members, and their Internet is not censored?
> It happens all the time that people try to shut down TPB. But mostly it's in countries like China and North Korea.
Wat. I thought the only people who have Internet access in North Korea are high ranking KWP party members, and their Internet is not censored?
Rainbow !DASHqGnDdc replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,868
@previous (C)
I think DPRK has a country-wide intranet and there are only about 3 web pages on it.
But it is just rhetoric. China and DPRK censor the Internet and that is what he is getting at.
I think DPRK has a country-wide intranet and there are only about 3 web pages on it.
But it is just rhetoric. China and DPRK censor the Internet and that is what he is getting at.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #280,924
dw !AIy/L67q.s replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #281,115
ok i just read up on it and now i do care
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #281,240
Meowth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #281,453
Pfft. Torrents...
dw !AIy/L67q.s replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #281,753
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #281,757
Now in meme form.