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Topic: Dutch confused why it might be offensive to call Rihanna the "ultimate niggabitch"

cccuuunnttt !CaTLdYmooc started this discussion 15 years ago #15,530

Image went missinghttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/12/22/racist-dutch-magazine-insults-rihanna-and-all-black-women-lose-out.html
http://jezebel.com/5869436/incredibly-stupid-magazine-says-rihanna-is-ultimate-niggabitch-with-ghetto-ass
"She has street cred, she has a ghetto ass and she has a golden throat. Rihanna, the good girl gone bad, is the ultimate niggabitch and displays that gladly, and for her that means: what's on can come off. If that means she'll be on stage half naked, then so be it. But Dutch winters aren't like Jamaican ones, so pick a clothing style in which your daughter can resist minus ten. No to the big sunglasses and the pornheels, and yes to the tiger print, pink shizzle and everything that glitters. Now let's hope she won't beat anybody up at daycare."


After being bombarded with hundreds of angry emails, Jackie’s Hoeke took to Facebook to write: “The title of the article was intended as a joke.” Explains Dana Saxon, an American lawyer and graduate student living in Amsterdam who has written extensively on racism in Holland: “The use of the words ‘nigga’ and ‘bitch’ to describe a black woman would normally go unnoticed or be deemed meaningless, with most Dutch people assuming that anyone who takes offense is too sensitive. And this explains the editor’s initial response to the complaints, annoyed that people were unable to [see the humor].”

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #271,173

> with most Dutch people assuming that anyone who takes offense is too sensitive

Yet another reason why the Dutch are superior.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #271,235

Stay classy, Holland.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #271,239

They showed the cultural sensitivity to use "nigga-", I don't see the problem here.

http://www.esquire.com/features/ESQ1202-DEC_SEDARIS
The dutch are good at righteous indignation when others question their racism, the tone adopted by the editor reminded me of this article quite a bit.

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #271,244

I hope u can read english, because your magazine is a poor representation of the evolution of human rights! I find you disrespectful, and rather desperate!! You ran out of legit, civilized information to print! There are 1000's of Dutch girls who would love to be recognized for their contributions to your country, you could have given them an article. Instead, u paid to print one degrading an entire race! That's your contribution to this world! To encourage segregation, to mislead the future leaders to act in the past! You put two words together, with the intent of abasement, that made no sense..."NIGGA BITCH"?!....Well with all respect, on behalf of my race, here are my two words for you...FUCK YOU!!!


Rihanna's response.

(Edited 52 seconds later.)

squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #271,246

@previous (C)
> FUCK YOU!!!

This sounds like something a niggabitch would say. When you're to dumb to be eloquent, curse.

Lord Nigger !xi8/JKFwzo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #271,247

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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,250

@271,244 (C)
lol'd. What a stupid bitch.

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,251

@271,246 (squeegee !hbZVTk6JYc)
@271,247 (Lord Nigger !xi8/JKFwzo)
@previous (G)
Yeah, what a niggabitch.

Ph !SQAJbBZk/o joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,252

@271,244 (C)
> I hope u
Read enough right there.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,253

@271,251 (C)
I shall be referring to Rihanna as niggabitch from now on, I hope you'll do the same.

rai joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,254

eh I bet her bf gets to call her far worse :)

vocalon !RVtoegPubI joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,255

@271,244 (C)
dam lol

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,260

@271,244 (C)
Not sure if self-irony or serious.

Handel !khEOdtKF56 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,272

The editor wasn't deemed a racist because it's socially acceptable in Holland to be a racist, it still doesn't make it right though.

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,277

@271,244 (C)
Didn't this bitch go back to Chris Brown after he beat her?

(Edited 21 seconds later.)

Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,280

@271,272 (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
Not really acceptable, they're just less pathetic about a word.

Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 15 years ago, 59 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,281

@previous (I)

It's acceptable and it's racist. Don't sugarcoat it.

Anonymous N replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,282

@previous (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
I thought the word with an 'a' instead of an 'er' wasn't racist?

Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,283

@previous (N)

It's not the word itself that technically makes it racist it's the context in which the word was used.
If they called her a "Black bitch" it could still be deemed racist.

Anonymous N replied with this 15 years ago, 57 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,307

@previous (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
But aren't you racist toward people over the age of 30?

Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,309

@previous (N)

I never claimed I wasn't.

Anonymous N replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,325

@previous (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
How old are you?

kook !nH6RAuX8mo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,330

@271,307 (N)
not racist, prejudiced.

The Editor !FuckWtfW8M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,354

@271,272 (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
> The editor wasn't deemed a racist
:')

kook !nH6RAuX8mo replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,356

http://jezebel.com/5870135/dutch-editor-resigns-over-niggabitch-article

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,366

@previous (kook !nH6RAuX8mo)


> It's nice that she's taking some responsibility, but I'd still like to know in what bizarro version of America "niggabitch" is a common fashion term.

Basic reading comprehension beyond the blog author?

> The term ‘niggabitch' came from America and we solely used it to describe a style of dress.

> The term ‘niggabitch' came from America. We solely used it to describe a style of dress.

Also lol@the comments

dw !AIy/L67q.s joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,601

lol us complaining about the netherlands being racist

Handel !khEOdtKF56 replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,602

@271,325 (N)

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@271,354 (The Editor !FuckWtfW8M)

Problem?

Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,603

It's the black discriminating against the white again. There's a word they like to call each other, but can we use it? Noooooooo. If we do all hell breaks loose, but if they call us a 'cracker' or anything like that it's all fine.

Sigh, where is is going with this world if people in the media are being forced to resign for using a word that the blacks have used for ages to describe each other.

The next time I hear a black use the word 'Nigga' I'm pressing racism charges.

The Editor !FuckWtfW8M replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #271,620

@271,602 (Handel !khEOdtKF56)
Clearly not.
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