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Topic: Seceding from society

Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 started this discussion 15 years ago #15,377

If I buy land though the sequence in respect to your society, and then secede from society after making my land self-sustainable, would that be acceptable to you? Note that I am using you as ambassador for your entire modern society. Thanks.

PS. I would not use any of your modernities such as water (I would build a well for that) or electricity (I will probs buy solar panels before secession)
Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
You have the right to live off that land as you wish 6 75%
You have to pay taxes even if you secede from society 2 25%

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #269,351

Don't confuse society and state.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #269,352

too bad the military will come and rape and murder you for trying such things

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #269,355

@previous (C)

> too bad the military will come and rape and murder you for trying such things

This. Protection rackets don't just let you escape.

jump joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #269,377

You are going to need to repair solar panels.

Either no electricity or no society. You choose.

You could just avoid society as much as possible, but you will be forced to pay taxes.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,410

@previous (jump)
The state levies taxes, not society.

Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,412

@269,377 (jump)
Wait, but isn't there a minimum threshold of earnings for taxes? One could surely free himself from taxes by earning less than that. So, only enough to survive.

@previous (B)
The state is there to maintain the structure of society.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,414

@previous (Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6)
> The state is there to maintain the structure of society.
Regardless of your justification of the state, it is separate to society.

Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,417

@previous (B)
Yes, but only insomuch as it is its enforcer.

dw !AIy/L67q.s joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,418

You have to pay taxes even if you secede from society mainly because it's a bit over the top to pass a law for the ten people that actually live like that.

TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,419

I'll say one thing... bananas.

No actually, I wanted to say doctors... you could easily die from something as simple as an appendix inflammation if you didn't get it surgical removed and it got complicated and ruptured.

Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 53 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,425

@269,412 (Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6)
property taxes son

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #269,430

@269,417 (Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6)
No, the enforcers of society are part of society - militias, defense agencies, enforcement agencies. The State enforces the will of the State.
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