Topic: Is Hell paradise for a masochist?
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #15,216
How does God punish them?
orc !WBRXcNtpf. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #266,591
Hows about this... Hell doesn't exist!(Edited 14 seconds later.)
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #266,607
Hell, in Christian theology, is not a place of physical pain. It is the place of abandonment, a place where the so-called 'sinner' gets to spend eternity with precisely the thing he always wanted - himself, and only himself. God is not in Hell. There is no torturing going on. It is the place for those who have rejected God, i.e, love, i.e, losing your self.
This is not what I believe. Just clearing up the theology of the question.
This is not what I believe. Just clearing up the theology of the question.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #266,617
kook !nH6RAuX8mo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #266,619
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #266,620
@266,617 (A)
Not really, because the concept of abandonment and loneliness, whilst romantic sometimes, is actually not something to be desired. It's pointless to ask anyone to imagine it, because it can't be done, but try anyway to imagine eternity existing wholly within your own self. That is not anyone's conception of Paradise, at least if you think existentially.
Not really, because the concept of abandonment and loneliness, whilst romantic sometimes, is actually not something to be desired. It's pointless to ask anyone to imagine it, because it can't be done, but try anyway to imagine eternity existing wholly within your own self. That is not anyone's conception of Paradise, at least if you think existentially.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #266,625
@previous (C)
So you're forced to walk the realms of paradise alone as a punishment? How bad can that be?
Sure, attention craved socialites may want someone to indulge in paradise with them.
But what if someone hates being around other people, then punishment becomes paradise itself.
So you're forced to walk the realms of paradise alone as a punishment? How bad can that be?
Sure, attention craved socialites may want someone to indulge in paradise with them.
But what if someone hates being around other people, then punishment becomes paradise itself.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #266,627
@previous (A)
Where did that come from? You're confused about the issue I think. How did you get from the Christian conception of 'Hell' (abandonment) to "walking the realms of Paradise alone" (Paradise being 'union')? They are entirely separate entities/concepts, and, to Christians, places. Again, I do not believe this, but if you're interested in your question, you need to understand the terms correctly.
I don't have the time or desire to discuss the whole of Christian theology here, but I encourage you to keep reading about it, it's an interesting subject, and the answer to your question will be found in it somewhere. It won't be the truth, in my opinion, but it will be an answer at least in the paradigm of Christian theology.
Where did that come from? You're confused about the issue I think. How did you get from the Christian conception of 'Hell' (abandonment) to "walking the realms of Paradise alone" (Paradise being 'union')? They are entirely separate entities/concepts, and, to Christians, places. Again, I do not believe this, but if you're interested in your question, you need to understand the terms correctly.
I don't have the time or desire to discuss the whole of Christian theology here, but I encourage you to keep reading about it, it's an interesting subject, and the answer to your question will be found in it somewhere. It won't be the truth, in my opinion, but it will be an answer at least in the paradigm of Christian theology.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #266,628
Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #266,630
So, if I believe that I am already the only being in existence, then I am already (close to) experiencing hell? With eternity in ones own head, the mind will create another boundless universe with others, no?
@266,620 (C)
@266,620 (C)