Topic: Am I the only person against drugs, alcohol, etc.?
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU started this discussion 15 years ago #1,516
Well I'm not so much against them as I just don't desire to take them myself and I'm opposed to anyone I care about doing them. Though if I don't care about someone, I could care less as long as I don't have to smell any second hand smoke.I also am opposed to taking meds for purely psychological issues. Just psychological, not all brain stuff like seizures. Physical medical issues like diabetes, I am fine with though.
Does anyone else have similar views?
Oh and if you think I should be medicated, well in real life I am the dullest, normalest seeming person. It's only online that I share way too much that I seem crazy. The only way I don't seem normal is that around 2010 I lost the ability to smile. Well I can force the smile but I look in pain. Other than that I am so overly normal in real life so nobody's going to medicate me.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #28,962
Would you be upset if someone you liked started smoking weed? Besides the legal reasons, why?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,963
There is no distinction between purely psychological and physical issues. Everything has a physical basis in the brain.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,972
@previous (C)
> There is no distinction between purely biological and chemical issues. Everything has a chemical basis in the organism.
> There is no distinction between purely computational and electrical issues. Everything has an electrical basis in the computer.
> There is no distinction between purely biological and chemical issues. Everything has a chemical basis in the organism.
> There is no distinction between purely computational and electrical issues. Everything has an electrical basis in the computer.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,973
@28,963 (C)
exactly. For instance, people assume that depression is synonymous with being sad about a particular issue, when in fact depression is usually a hereditary chemical imbalance.
exactly. For instance, people assume that depression is synonymous with being sad about a particular issue, when in fact depression is usually a hereditary chemical imbalance.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,978
@28,962 (B)
As I said, I don't care if someone I don't care about does drugs unless I get secondhand smoke. It's mainly I don't want to do them.
As I said, I don't care if someone I don't care about does drugs unless I get secondhand smoke. It's mainly I don't want to do them.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,980
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,982
@28,978 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
I said someone you liked, not someone you don't care about. If a close friend or family member started smoking weed, how would you feel? Say they don't do it when you are around, so no worrying about second-hand smoke.
I said someone you liked, not someone you don't care about. If a close friend or family member started smoking weed, how would you feel? Say they don't do it when you are around, so no worrying about second-hand smoke.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,983
Anonymous D double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,988
@28,980 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Like most Americans, you feel the need to have an opinion whether you are informed or not.
you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Like most Americans, you feel the need to have an opinion whether you are informed or not.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #28,990
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,003
When I was in the 8th grade there were two bullies beating me up for three months every day. So one day I stood up for myself and beat one of them up. During the fight well basically one thing I did was throwing a rock off the ground at the guy's head (not exactly but I'll simplify) and knocked him out. The school then twisted that into bringing a weapon to school and wanted to expell me so to avoid that I was declared ADD, put on ritalin and stayed in school.
Then the whole school were hypocrites scared of me, except for the bullies who then continued their shit but subtly until they got bored. I stopped taking it in the 9th grade, but the damage was done.
Ritalin made me focus better and do better at school, but paying attention was bad for me. It let all the psychological problems of life build up when I used to be able to forget about them when they want away, a live in the moment kind of thing.
Then the whole school were hypocrites scared of me, except for the bullies who then continued their shit but subtly until they got bored. I stopped taking it in the 9th grade, but the damage was done.
Ritalin made me focus better and do better at school, but paying attention was bad for me. It let all the psychological problems of life build up when I used to be able to forget about them when they want away, a live in the moment kind of thing.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,010
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,012
@29,003 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Sounds like you're blaming many things on a drug. And it's unlikely damage has been done unless you were snorting huge doses of it.
Sounds like you're blaming many things on a drug. And it's unlikely damage has been done unless you were snorting huge doses of it.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,014
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,020
The reason I don't do things like pot, alcohol, tobacco is:
* Smoking smells bad. That simple.
* They don't make useful drugs. It's the same old shit: pot, meth, LSD. If they sold the drug that Oliva Dunham from the TV show Fringe took as a kid in Dr. Bishop's secret experiment that gave her superpowers, then I'd try that but it's fictional.
* Smoking smells bad. That simple.
* They don't make useful drugs. It's the same old shit: pot, meth, LSD. If they sold the drug that Oliva Dunham from the TV show Fringe took as a kid in Dr. Bishop's secret experiment that gave her superpowers, then I'd try that but it's fictional.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,021
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Please answer my question. See: @28,982 (B)
Please answer my question. See: @28,982 (B)
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Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,023
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,031
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,039
@29,020 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> * Smoking smells bad. That simple.
People tend to become more than accustomed to the smell of their drug of choice.
> * They don't make useful drugs. It's the same old shit:
> pot
Use: entertainment. It makes everything more interesting and fun.
> meth
It's useful for treating ADHD and Obesity, or at least that's what it can be prescribed for (U.S.). Obviously it allows people great energy, which is why it was prescribed to soldiers in the German military in WWII.
> LSD.
Entertainment, and some would say "enlightenment"- it gives a different perspective on things.
These aren't great uses necessarily, but people do take drugs for many reasons not just euphoria.
> * Smoking smells bad. That simple.
People tend to become more than accustomed to the smell of their drug of choice.
> * They don't make useful drugs. It's the same old shit:
> pot
Use: entertainment. It makes everything more interesting and fun.
> meth
It's useful for treating ADHD and Obesity, or at least that's what it can be prescribed for (U.S.). Obviously it allows people great energy, which is why it was prescribed to soldiers in the German military in WWII.
> LSD.
Entertainment, and some would say "enlightenment"- it gives a different perspective on things.
These aren't great uses necessarily, but people do take drugs for many reasons not just euphoria.
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Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,041
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,047
Also they do make useful drugs. It's called amphetamine, which you could potentially get prescribed since you're ADD.
The most prolific and influential mathematician of recent times (Paul Erdos) took amphetamines daily. It helped him tremendously and he lived a long life too.
The most prolific and influential mathematician of recent times (Paul Erdos) took amphetamines daily. It helped him tremendously and he lived a long life too.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,050
@28,982 (B)
> I said someone you liked, not someone you don't care about. If a close friend or family member started smoking weed, how would you feel? Say they don't do it when you are around, so no worrying about second-hand smoke.
Oops I missed this.
Basically I'd try to encourage them not to.
> I said someone you liked, not someone you don't care about. If a close friend or family member started smoking weed, how would you feel? Say they don't do it when you are around, so no worrying about second-hand smoke.
Oops I missed this.
Basically I'd try to encourage them not to.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,052
@29,047 (C)
This. I hope a day comes when people can get amphetamines in a safe form without having to actually have, or fake ADHD. It would really advance society.
This. I hope a day comes when people can get amphetamines in a safe form without having to actually have, or fake ADHD. It would really advance society.
Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,053
Meowth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,055
@29,039 (B)
> > meth
> It's useful for treating ADHD and Obesity, or at least that's what it can be prescribed for (U.S.). Obviously it allows people great energy, which is why it was prescribed to soldiers in the German military in WWII.
You forgot dem kamikaze pilots nigga...
> > meth
> It's useful for treating ADHD and Obesity, or at least that's what it can be prescribed for (U.S.). Obviously it allows people great energy, which is why it was prescribed to soldiers in the German military in WWII.
You forgot dem kamikaze pilots nigga...
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,057
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,058
@29,052 (B)
Yeah. I'd prefer for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4MAR to be available first though. No conclusive evidence of toxicity, or at least the toxicity is much less than meth/amphetamine. Plus it lasts longer and is also an entactogen rather than just a stimulant.
Yeah. I'd prefer for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4MAR to be available first though. No conclusive evidence of toxicity, or at least the toxicity is much less than meth/amphetamine. Plus it lasts longer and is also an entactogen rather than just a stimulant.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,059
@29,053 (B)
The common recreational drugs people take are cookie-cutter and cliche. If they were taking some new drug nobody ever heard of, it might make sense. But this is the same old shit. I feel for me to do it would be lame and when I care about someone else I want them to be better than this too. I haven't actually convinced anyone and I don't try hard either, but I might mention it once in a blue moon.
The common recreational drugs people take are cookie-cutter and cliche. If they were taking some new drug nobody ever heard of, it might make sense. But this is the same old shit. I feel for me to do it would be lame and when I care about someone else I want them to be better than this too. I haven't actually convinced anyone and I don't try hard either, but I might mention it once in a blue moon.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,063
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,064
@29,059 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> The common recreational drugs people take are cookie-cutter and cliche. If they were taking some new drug nobody ever heard of, it might make sense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4MAR
> The common recreational drugs people take are cookie-cutter and cliche. If they were taking some new drug nobody ever heard of, it might make sense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4MAR
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,065
@29,059 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
I'm not talking about other drugs, here, or you doing them. Why would you be against pot specifically?
Do you think it is bad for your health?
I'm not talking about other drugs, here, or you doing them. Why would you be against pot specifically?
Do you think it is bad for your health?
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,066
@29,063 (B)
I don't speak from experience, but probably not more than just plain amphetamine. Most people don't find MDMA or other enactogens addictive, so I'd guess it be slightly less addictive than amphetamine.
I don't speak from experience, but probably not more than just plain amphetamine. Most people don't find MDMA or other enactogens addictive, so I'd guess it be slightly less addictive than amphetamine.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,067
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,071
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,072
@29,067 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
You keep skirting around the question.
I'm not asking how much you are against it, how you compare it to other drugs, why you don't smoke it personally, etc. I am asking why you are against it.
Why would you be against someone you care for to be smoking it? For health reasons? Nothing more than legal reasons?
You keep skirting around the question.
I'm not asking how much you are against it, how you compare it to other drugs, why you don't smoke it personally, etc. I am asking why you are against it.
Why would you be against someone you care for to be smoking it? For health reasons? Nothing more than legal reasons?
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,076
@previous (B)
>
> I'm not asking how much you are against it, how you compare it to other drugs, why you don't smoke it personally, etc. I am asking why you are against it.
>
I said why I personally wouldn't do it.
> Why would you be against someone you care for to be smoking it? For health reasons? Nothing more than legal reasons?
Because I think it would be bad for me if I did it and I sort of project that care for myself onto others I care about.
>
> I'm not asking how much you are against it, how you compare it to other drugs, why you don't smoke it personally, etc. I am asking why you are against it.
>
I said why I personally wouldn't do it.
> Why would you be against someone you care for to be smoking it? For health reasons? Nothing more than legal reasons?
Because I think it would be bad for me if I did it and I sort of project that care for myself onto others I care about.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,079
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> I said why I personally wouldn't do it.
*facepalm* Troll? Or just retarded?
> Because I think it would be bad for me if I did it and I sort of project that care for myself onto others I care about.
I ask why you think it would be bad, and you say because "it would be bad"?
10/10 bud
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> > I'm not asking [...] why you don't smoke it personally
> I said why I personally wouldn't do it.
*facepalm* Troll? Or just retarded?
> Because I think it would be bad for me if I did it and I sort of project that care for myself onto others I care about.
I ask why you think it would be bad, and you say because "it would be bad"?
10/10 bud
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,080
@previous (B)
It could be more an emotional reason than an intellectual one for why I wouldn't do it.
It could be more an emotional reason than an intellectual one for why I wouldn't do it.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #29,083
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Green !pFNWNYROxA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,086
No.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,090
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,097
@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
When my life is going good, I am happy. When it is going bad, I am depressed.
When my life is going good, I am happy. When it is going bad, I am depressed.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,099
Maybe this will explain why I am against taking drugs myself.Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,101
Your trolling lacks any kind of refinement or subtlety.(Edited 17 seconds later.)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #29,103
I actually don't drink or smoke. I never have, and I don't plan on starting any time soon.
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@previous (D)
You're right. I take medication for major depression, even when my life is going fine.
You're right. I take medication for major depression, even when my life is going fine.
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I can't even do it anymore leo, I feel too bad making fun of you.We've had a good run, take care my friend.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #29,786
@29,359 (D)
When I'm sad most of the time for a year, I consider it depression.
People are not born depressed and I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing. Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
When I'm sad most of the time for a year, I consider it depression.
People are not born depressed and I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing. Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 days later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #32,980
Smart people like Dr. House don't take normal drugs like pot, jimsen weed, jenkem, etc. They take specially made pills to get high:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkzhvZ_CFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpkzhvZ_CFM
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,024
@29,786 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
Why don't you believe in "the chemical imbalance" thing?
What educated and informed reason do you have for this? Or are you merely using your mouth as a second asshole?
Why don't you believe in "the chemical imbalance" thing?
What educated and informed reason do you have for this? Or are you merely using your mouth as a second asshole?
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,039
@29,786 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing
So you don't believe in science? ...okay
> Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
> I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing
So you don't believe in science? ...okay
> Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
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@29,786 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> When I'm sad most of the time for a year, I consider it depression.
>
> People are not born depressed and I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing. Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
You are the stupidest goddamn poster on MC, and I can't tell if you are a troll or just a dumbass.
> When I'm sad most of the time for a year, I consider it depression.
>
> People are not born depressed and I don't believe the chemical imbalance in the brain thing. Take someone always depressed, clone them and then raise the clone in some place like Amish, in a monastery, or that sort of thing where they won't see anything to give them unfullfilled desires and they won't be depressed.
You are the stupidest goddamn poster on MC, and I can't tell if you are a troll or just a dumbass.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,080
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,107
@33,024 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
> Why don't you believe in "the chemical imbalance" thing?
I don't believe people are born to have chemical imabalances. I believe it's nurture rather than nature that causes them. I believe that drugs for personality issues are overprescribed.
If you think my views on this are odd, Scientology doesn't believe in drugs or psychotherapy.
> Why don't you believe in "the chemical imbalance" thing?
I don't believe people are born to have chemical imabalances. I believe it's nurture rather than nature that causes them. I believe that drugs for personality issues are overprescribed.
If you think my views on this are odd, Scientology doesn't believe in drugs or psychotherapy.
Not Anonymous B !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,109
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> If you think my views are odd, the craziest religious cult since the Branch Davidians agrees with me.
Uh, alright then. I'm still not convinced.
> If you think my views are odd, the craziest religious cult since the Branch Davidians agrees with me.
Uh, alright then. I'm still not convinced.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,112
@previous (Not Anonymous B !ZkUt8arUCU)No, Scientolgy has much more views than me. I think these "chemical imbalances" people claim are things we'll look back on as being some fiction and they're not really chemical imabalances that should be treated by drugs, but psychological issues that should be treated by means other than drugs (e.g. therapy, meditation, whatever). Drugs treat the symptom, not the cause.
Scientology opposes all psychology, not just drugs. That's the difference between me.
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 37 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,143
If you had a mental problem, would you rather be stuck taking pills your whole life or would you rather have it cured?
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jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,172
@33,107 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
I didn't ask what you believed, I asked why, but I am very happy you said "over-prescribed."
Why do you believe these things? Other than pure speculation, what causes you to believe these things?
You mentioned Scientology, so we can assume you are trolling? I know you are really stupid, so I actually am torn on wether you are being genuine.
I didn't ask what you believed, I asked why, but I am very happy you said "over-prescribed."
Why do you believe these things? Other than pure speculation, what causes you to believe these things?
You mentioned Scientology, so we can assume you are trolling? I know you are really stupid, so I actually am torn on wether you are being genuine.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,182
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
> I know you are really stupid, so I actually am torn on wether you are being genuine.
Sounds like you're the one trolling.
Am I the only one here who thinks if people have mental problems they shouldn't just be medicated and that's it?
In the old days, docs tried to cure people, not just funnel money into the pharmaceutical industry. And people weren't born with "chemical imbalances", they had some traumas in their life that their id, ego, and superego couldn't resolve. A lot of times various therapy didn't work. And things like shock therapy are considered barbaric now. So people figured it's easier to medicate people than to cure them.
Like ADD. So you can't focus? You take meds all your life for it? You know India has excercises for improving focus since at least 3000 years ago?
I don't believe in Scientology, but I do believe in alternative treatment like traditional Chinese medicine.
I know someone who is old and they had all these pains with all kinds of things wrong in their joints. More than arthritis. I don't remember exactly. It was a lot of things. They tried taking meds and it made them loopy. Instead they go to acupuncture. Yes I know not a cure, but it stops the pain for a week without the side effects of meds. And if you say it's a placebo, well it just disproves your theory that the brain has chemical imbalances in it that the brain itself cannot fix on its own.
> I know you are really stupid, so I actually am torn on wether you are being genuine.
Sounds like you're the one trolling.
Am I the only one here who thinks if people have mental problems they shouldn't just be medicated and that's it?
In the old days, docs tried to cure people, not just funnel money into the pharmaceutical industry. And people weren't born with "chemical imbalances", they had some traumas in their life that their id, ego, and superego couldn't resolve. A lot of times various therapy didn't work. And things like shock therapy are considered barbaric now. So people figured it's easier to medicate people than to cure them.
Like ADD. So you can't focus? You take meds all your life for it? You know India has excercises for improving focus since at least 3000 years ago?
I don't believe in Scientology, but I do believe in alternative treatment like traditional Chinese medicine.
I know someone who is old and they had all these pains with all kinds of things wrong in their joints. More than arthritis. I don't remember exactly. It was a lot of things. They tried taking meds and it made them loopy. Instead they go to acupuncture. Yes I know not a cure, but it stops the pain for a week without the side effects of meds. And if you say it's a placebo, well it just disproves your theory that the brain has chemical imbalances in it that the brain itself cannot fix on its own.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,185
@33,172 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Jump, you used to post how you're a pedophile and do psychotherapy to help you rather than chemical castration. That you believe being a pedophile is a mental delusion that can be overcome with insight rather than some chemical imbalance in the brain that is hopeless and you should take meds that kill your sex drive.
Jump, you used to post how you're a pedophile and do psychotherapy to help you rather than chemical castration. That you believe being a pedophile is a mental delusion that can be overcome with insight rather than some chemical imbalance in the brain that is hopeless and you should take meds that kill your sex drive.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,187
This got offtopic. The thread was about how recreational drugs pot, jenkem, alcohol whatever are lame because they're the same old shit that has the same old stupid effects instead of something better.
Somehow it turned into me getting bashed the same way how the other ginger of this forum used to always get bashed for her opinions.
Somehow it turned into me getting bashed the same way how the other ginger of this forum used to always get bashed for her opinions.
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Ninjj joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,191
@previous (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
The difference is that you're a fucking nutjob, wacko. You fucking nut.
The difference is that you're a fucking nutjob, wacko. You fucking nut.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,199
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Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,210
@33,157 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> Before drugs, they used a variety of methods.
There never was a time "before drugs" in the first place.
Practitioners of the the healing arts have always attempted (with varying success) to alter the state of people's minds through the use of various substances, be it for medical, recreational or religious reasons.
> Before drugs, they used a variety of methods.
There never was a time "before drugs" in the first place.
Practitioners of the the healing arts have always attempted (with varying success) to alter the state of people's minds through the use of various substances, be it for medical, recreational or religious reasons.
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,211
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Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,213
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,214
@33,210 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychiatric_treatments
And that's not a complete list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Psychiatric_treatments
And that's not a complete list.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #33,217
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 15 years ago, 16 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,089
Jack Squire !gOStA1p7Pc replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,090
@33,187 (Leonidas !nBpim1wazU)
> same way how the other ginger of this forum used to always get bashed for her opinions.
Salty got bashed by angry virgins because she was a girl. You are getting bashed because you are a fucking moron.
> same way how the other ginger of this forum used to always get bashed for her opinions.
Salty got bashed by angry virgins because she was a girl. You are getting bashed because you are a fucking moron.
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,093
I do not do recreational drugs. People who do are dipshits.
Leonidas !a2uDFch6hM replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,097
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Leonidas !a2uDFch6hM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,101
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Leonidas !a2uDFch6hM replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,113
@previous (Jack Squire !gOStA1p7Pc)
> missingthepoint.jpg
W/e bro, I'll just enjoy my new cheap Macbook I bought on eBay. The shipping is expensive from Gainesville to CA but I think it was worth it.
> missingthepoint.jpg
W/e bro, I'll just enjoy my new cheap Macbook I bought on eBay. The shipping is expensive from Gainesville to CA but I think it was worth it.
Anonymous V replied with this 15 years ago, 0 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,114
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Mr.Rogers !tiQBrOS.jo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,154
I am the same way, I think. I only read the first sentence. wooo
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 51 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,181
@34,093 (V)
> My DARE instructor would lie to me!
Yea man, I hear if you smoke pot just once it's the same to your brain as being on an island where a nuclear bomb is set off.
> My DARE instructor would lie to me!
Yea man, I hear if you smoke pot just once it's the same to your brain as being on an island where a nuclear bomb is set off.
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Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,182
Depression and "chemical imbalances" are two sides of the same coin. Obviously some people are born predisposed to depression, but the cause isn't a "chemical imbalance".
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,184
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,185
@previous (B)
No, that's marijuana needles that do that. Joints spread cancer from one person to another.
No, that's marijuana needles that do that. Joints spread cancer from one person to another.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,195
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
lol
I had a friend overdose on mushrooms, I tried to warn him of addiction :(
lol
I had a friend overdose on mushrooms, I tried to warn him of addiction :(
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,267
@34,090 (Jack Squire !gOStA1p7Pc)
She got bashed for the same reason as me. We're both intelligent with our own opinions that most people here (with the exception of a few smart folks like Depressionman) are too stupid to understand and thus disagree with and falsely call stupid.
There's lots of girls on Minichan and they didn't get bashed for their opinions.
And folks Leonidas !a2uDFch6hM is not the original Leonidas from Tinychan/Minichan/LaGhouls. It might be some other guy from 4chan who uses the name.
She got bashed for the same reason as me. We're both intelligent with our own opinions that most people here (with the exception of a few smart folks like Depressionman) are too stupid to understand and thus disagree with and falsely call stupid.
There's lots of girls on Minichan and they didn't get bashed for their opinions.
And folks Leonidas !a2uDFch6hM is not the original Leonidas from Tinychan/Minichan/LaGhouls. It might be some other guy from 4chan who uses the name.
Leonidas !nBpim1wazU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,271
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> ...
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> All psychological problems have a physical basis as we are made of physical things.
There we go something intelligent.
The thing is with the brain it's more of a chicken and egg thing. Chemicals alter the mind, but the mind itself alters what chemicals are produced. So the mind itself can have a trauma that gives it a chemical imbalance. The mind also could also have by itself producing the wrong chemicals and through a person training themselves, fix it so the chemicals are working right again.
Medicating everyone for mental problems is just a fad. A lot of therapists are against the idea and prefer people try psychotherapy instead of going straight for drugs. A lot of them will give people placebos instead of real drugs and then people's "chemical imbalances" fix themselves by the power of their own minds believing the placebos.
> ...
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> All psychological problems have a physical basis as we are made of physical things.
There we go something intelligent.
The thing is with the brain it's more of a chicken and egg thing. Chemicals alter the mind, but the mind itself alters what chemicals are produced. So the mind itself can have a trauma that gives it a chemical imbalance. The mind also could also have by itself producing the wrong chemicals and through a person training themselves, fix it so the chemicals are working right again.
Medicating everyone for mental problems is just a fad. A lot of therapists are against the idea and prefer people try psychotherapy instead of going straight for drugs. A lot of them will give people placebos instead of real drugs and then people's "chemical imbalances" fix themselves by the power of their own minds believing the placebos.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #34,324
Yep. You're the only one.