Topic: Do you think pets are ever sad that they're neutered? With a POLL.
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #14,779
Please see the POLL
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes | 7 | 50% | |
| No | 7 | 50% |
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #260,475
Yes. It won't be long before your cat exacts its revenge.
Meta joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #260,476
I've seen them have cut vs uncut debates that went on for days.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #260,478
I found this online:
It is obviously cruel to put animals through traumatic surgery (since 1985, it has been classed as cruel and unusual punishment to surgically castrate rapists in the U.S.A., even though the eunuchs were given testosterone suppliments). As it is cruel to neuter people who deserve it, it is impossible to say that it isn't cruel to do it to non humans on the grounds that they may want to reproduce.(The word "spay" originally meant to "cut out with a sword", which just about sums up how pleasent the operation must be for the victim).
Being responsible for an animal being neutered is also a breach of trust between the person and the animal on the grounds that animals rely on us to do what is best for them, rather then going for the most convenient option (animals obviously have no input as to whether they are neutered or not, which makes the whole procedure even more of a betrayal as it is presumably done against the animal's will).
It is also hypocritical to neuter animals on population grounds when the number of humans on the planet is spiralling out of control (any incidences of humans being sterilised against their will are automatically condemned as human rights abuses, even though it is probably necessary to control the number of people before problems concerning over- population get worse).
In Norway, it is seen as being unethical to neuter animals to make them easier to handle: as a result it is illegal to castrate dogs (the term "castrate" is also applied to females in Norway). Admittedly, there isn't a dog overpopulation problem in Norway (which would mean that people would see less of a need to neuter dogs anyway), and it is legal to neuter horses, cats and pigs.
Besides, very few humans would want to be neutered against their will, so is it really fair for us to do it to animals?
It is obviously cruel to put animals through traumatic surgery (since 1985, it has been classed as cruel and unusual punishment to surgically castrate rapists in the U.S.A., even though the eunuchs were given testosterone suppliments). As it is cruel to neuter people who deserve it, it is impossible to say that it isn't cruel to do it to non humans on the grounds that they may want to reproduce.(The word "spay" originally meant to "cut out with a sword", which just about sums up how pleasent the operation must be for the victim).
Being responsible for an animal being neutered is also a breach of trust between the person and the animal on the grounds that animals rely on us to do what is best for them, rather then going for the most convenient option (animals obviously have no input as to whether they are neutered or not, which makes the whole procedure even more of a betrayal as it is presumably done against the animal's will).
It is also hypocritical to neuter animals on population grounds when the number of humans on the planet is spiralling out of control (any incidences of humans being sterilised against their will are automatically condemned as human rights abuses, even though it is probably necessary to control the number of people before problems concerning over- population get worse).
In Norway, it is seen as being unethical to neuter animals to make them easier to handle: as a result it is illegal to castrate dogs (the term "castrate" is also applied to females in Norway). Admittedly, there isn't a dog overpopulation problem in Norway (which would mean that people would see less of a need to neuter dogs anyway), and it is legal to neuter horses, cats and pigs.
Besides, very few humans would want to be neutered against their will, so is it really fair for us to do it to animals?
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #260,483
I voted yes. I imagine even an animal misses sex.
Green !6PPj7P5Iag joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #260,484
Did anyone else misread 'neutered' as 'retarded'?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,501
Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,502
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,503
@260,483 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
What if it never had sex? Most people spay/neuter before the instincts begin to develop.
What if it never had sex? Most people spay/neuter before the instincts begin to develop.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,505
@previous (F)
This. If it's never had sex it won't care. I doubt it would even if it had had sex before.
This. If it's never had sex it won't care. I doubt it would even if it had had sex before.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,508
@previous (B)
Completely agree. Honestly it would be better than letting it keep all of its parts and never have sex. Think about it, you keep a cat indoors but never get it altered. It would be such a frustrating existence.
Completely agree. Honestly it would be better than letting it keep all of its parts and never have sex. Think about it, you keep a cat indoors but never get it altered. It would be such a frustrating existence.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,514
Green !6PPj7P5Iag replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #260,516
I love 'my' dog.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #260,615
@260,508 (F)
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #260,619
ITT: anthropomorphism
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #260,633
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #260,683
Loving a pet is analogous to self love anyhow. People only love animals because they are property. This is why people pay cash for their dogs to have surgery but say "fuck that shit" when it's their very own children. lol.