Topic: NYPD confiscates, loses fake Wikileaks truck
cccuuunnttt !CaTLdYmooc started this discussion 15 years ago #14,455
http://gawker.com/5861916/nypd-loses-the-occupy-wall-street-wikileaks-truckLife can be difficult when your vehicle has a huge Wikileaks logo and "Top Secret Mobile Collection Unit" emblazoned on the side. An artist's Wikileaks-themed U-Haul truck is missing after being confiscated by the NYPD.
The Wikileaks truck has been a fixture at Manhattan's Occupy Wall Street protest since day one, provoking puzzled reactions from media, cops and tourists alike. Unfortunately, Julian Assange hasn't been secretly crashing in the flatbed; it's a project by New York-based artist/activist Clark Stoeckley. Stoeckley says he has no connection to the Wikileaks folks. He's been driving the thing around the country since March, filming his exploits, and for most of the past two months it's been parked down at Zuccotti Park, where it sheltered him and fellow occupiers.
But last Thursday morning—the morning of Occupy Wall Street's big day of action—Stoeckly was pulled over on Broadway and Cedar Street near Zuccotti Park. The cops used the fact that his license plate was crooked, and that he turned on his windshield wipers without his lights as pretense to pull him over, Stoeckley told us in a phone interview. (New York law requires drivers to use headlights "whenever you are using your windshield wipers to clear rain, snow, sleet, etc.")
Police demanded to search the vehicle, and when Stoeckley refuse they arrested him for "Obstructing Governmental Administration." Stoeckley's lawyer, Wiley Stecklow, said he's concerned Stoeckly was arrested "unlawfully," simply for "refusing to consent to a search."
His arresting officer gave him a handwritten slip of paper with contact info for a place called Mike's Towing, saying he could pick up his truck there. But when Stoeckley was released from jail Saturday, Mike's Towing said they had never received the truck, which incidentally also contains all of Stoeckley's possessions.
"I think this is over the NYPD's head," said Stoeckley, ominously. It's not the first time the truck has gotten him in trouble: He's been hassled by NYPD a couple times in New York, and when he parked the truck outside the White House in March, he said, Secret Service searched it and questioned him about any ties to Wikileaks.
A Mike's Towing representative confirmed they had no clue about the Wikileaks truck when we called today. "I definitely would have noticed something like that," he said.
So, where's the truck? Stecklow, said the truck wasn't at the city impound, either. But he's been in contact with the NYPD legal department and is trying to track it down. "My hope is that the NYPD is going to locate it, and explain why it disappeared," Stecklow said. Said Stoeckley: "I want my truck back immediately. It was illegally taken from me and it is illegally being held from me. That is not courtesy, professionalism or respect."
The Wikileaks truck has been a fixture at Manhattan's Occupy Wall Street protest since day one, provoking puzzled reactions from media, cops and tourists alike. Unfortunately, Julian Assange hasn't been secretly crashing in the flatbed; it's a project by New York-based artist/activist Clark Stoeckley. Stoeckley says he has no connection to the Wikileaks folks. He's been driving the thing around the country since March, filming his exploits, and for most of the past two months it's been parked down at Zuccotti Park, where it sheltered him and fellow occupiers.
But last Thursday morning—the morning of Occupy Wall Street's big day of action—Stoeckly was pulled over on Broadway and Cedar Street near Zuccotti Park. The cops used the fact that his license plate was crooked, and that he turned on his windshield wipers without his lights as pretense to pull him over, Stoeckley told us in a phone interview. (New York law requires drivers to use headlights "whenever you are using your windshield wipers to clear rain, snow, sleet, etc.")
Police demanded to search the vehicle, and when Stoeckley refuse they arrested him for "Obstructing Governmental Administration." Stoeckley's lawyer, Wiley Stecklow, said he's concerned Stoeckly was arrested "unlawfully," simply for "refusing to consent to a search."
His arresting officer gave him a handwritten slip of paper with contact info for a place called Mike's Towing, saying he could pick up his truck there. But when Stoeckley was released from jail Saturday, Mike's Towing said they had never received the truck, which incidentally also contains all of Stoeckley's possessions.
"I think this is over the NYPD's head," said Stoeckley, ominously. It's not the first time the truck has gotten him in trouble: He's been hassled by NYPD a couple times in New York, and when he parked the truck outside the White House in March, he said, Secret Service searched it and questioned him about any ties to Wikileaks.
A Mike's Towing representative confirmed they had no clue about the Wikileaks truck when we called today. "I definitely would have noticed something like that," he said.
So, where's the truck? Stecklow, said the truck wasn't at the city impound, either. But he's been in contact with the NYPD legal department and is trying to track it down. "My hope is that the NYPD is going to locate it, and explain why it disappeared," Stecklow said. Said Stoeckley: "I want my truck back immediately. It was illegally taken from me and it is illegally being held from me. That is not courtesy, professionalism or respect."
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jump joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #255,832
Cops: idiots and dicks
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #255,834
That is not a cool van.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #255,842
The sad thing for our country is we HAVE to make an example of these people. As impossible as it is, as miserable as it's going to be, we have been left with no choice whatsoever.
We HAVE to make an example of leaders who treat us like insects while knowing full well it is they who are the cockroaches. They must be challenged. The must be held accountable. They must be punished.
We HAVE to make an example of leaders who treat us like insects while knowing full well it is they who are the cockroaches. They must be challenged. The must be held accountable. They must be punished.
cccuuunnttt !CaTLdYmooc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #255,849
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #255,854
@previous (cccuuunnttt !CaTLdYmooc)
The cops who are arresting and pepper spraying people for nothing. The abuses of authority. We have to rid ourselves of those who are doing it even if it means putting cameras on them 24/7. We have to make it known they work for us, not themselves. It's quite a serious matter.
The cops who are arresting and pepper spraying people for nothing. The abuses of authority. We have to rid ourselves of those who are doing it even if it means putting cameras on them 24/7. We have to make it known they work for us, not themselves. It's quite a serious matter.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #255,857
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,137
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,139
I've been reading about this past couple of days. It's pretty funny, hope he sues the NYPD for billions. :D
jump replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,144
@256,137 (E)
really? Most? Do you have any support for this? The other cops don't step in and arrest these criminals.
You blind fucking fool.
really? Most? Do you have any support for this? The other cops don't step in and arrest these criminals.
You blind fucking fool.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,145
@previous (jump)
Jesus christ, you're ignorant. One coo goes too far and you demonize them all? You idiot.
Jesus christ, you're ignorant. One coo goes too far and you demonize them all? You idiot.
jump replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,146
@previous (G)
They do not arrest them.
THEY. DO. NOT. ARREST. THEM.
They usually do nothing.
What excuse is there for that? If they see that going on they should immediately arrest the criminal. They are assaulting people in broad daylight in front of cameras. There is no excuse for it. What makes that ok? Why is it ok if they are wearing a badge? You are willfully ignorant.
They do not arrest them.
THEY. DO. NOT. ARREST. THEM.
They usually do nothing.
What excuse is there for that? If they see that going on they should immediately arrest the criminal. They are assaulting people in broad daylight in front of cameras. There is no excuse for it. What makes that ok? Why is it ok if they are wearing a badge? You are willfully ignorant.
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Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,147
@256,144 (jump)
That doesn't mean you can generalise all police officers.
I don't live in America I live in England, and I've only had a few bad experiences in my life. Are cops really that different in the US? I somehow doubt it.
That doesn't mean you can generalise all police officers.
I don't live in America I live in England, and I've only had a few bad experiences in my life. Are cops really that different in the US? I somehow doubt it.
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Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,149
@256,146 (jump)
I'm talking about the wider implications of your irrational phobia of the police here. Yes this incident was a foul-up but you can't generalise all police for it. That's just retarded.
I feel sorry for the police. They protect you even though you're yelling police brutality every chance you get.
I'm talking about the wider implications of your irrational phobia of the police here. Yes this incident was a foul-up but you can't generalise all police for it. That's just retarded.
I feel sorry for the police. They protect you even though you're yelling police brutality every chance you get.
marvin !CaTLdYmooc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,150
@256,146 (jump)
I honestly don't get it--what do you think the police are supposed to do when people try to take over an area they have no right to? Would you like to live by a park full of hippies shitting wherever they'd like, do you think these people should be able to take over private property as they've repeatedly attempted to do? Should they be able to block you just trying to get to work, because you happen to work in the financial industry?
The police have gone farther than I'd like in a few cases, but the point is the protesters incited this. They're not just marching around chanting slogans, they are trying to make it impossible for people to go around and live their lives normally, because they're mad about something or other. It's fucking obnoxious and stupid, if you are going to act like a punk, you should expect the police to respond.
I honestly don't get it--what do you think the police are supposed to do when people try to take over an area they have no right to? Would you like to live by a park full of hippies shitting wherever they'd like, do you think these people should be able to take over private property as they've repeatedly attempted to do? Should they be able to block you just trying to get to work, because you happen to work in the financial industry?
The police have gone farther than I'd like in a few cases, but the point is the protesters incited this. They're not just marching around chanting slogans, they are trying to make it impossible for people to go around and live their lives normally, because they're mad about something or other. It's fucking obnoxious and stupid, if you are going to act like a punk, you should expect the police to respond.
marvin !CaTLdYmooc (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,151
@previous (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
But about them "going too far," I wasn't there and didn't see the escalation, none of us did. All we see usually are the clips where the situation has already escalated to the point of force. Somehow the Occupy retards have yet to post the videos to youtube of their own violence, rapes, defacing other people's property, etc. They are a serious nuisance at best wherever they've camped out.
But about them "going too far," I wasn't there and didn't see the escalation, none of us did. All we see usually are the clips where the situation has already escalated to the point of force. Somehow the Occupy retards have yet to post the videos to youtube of their own violence, rapes, defacing other people's property, etc. They are a serious nuisance at best wherever they've camped out.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,155
@256,150 (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
Half of the time they don't even know what they want to achieve by doing all of this stuff. It's gotten pretty directionless in some places.
Half of the time they don't even know what they want to achieve by doing all of this stuff. It's gotten pretty directionless in some places.
marvin !CaTLdYmooc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,158
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,165
@previous (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
Well, Wall Street was sort of a rallying point to begin with but they had no idea what their demands were when they got there.
Well, Wall Street was sort of a rallying point to begin with but they had no idea what their demands were when they got there.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,167
jump replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,172
@256,149 (G)
multiple incidences of unprovoked attacks on peaceful people.
@256,150 (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
Assault is assault is assault. You are so appeasing of them. Many of these attacks are on peaceful protesters. They don't even attempt to arrest them, they just mace them. Have you seen the videos? What about the cop who punched the woman (or possibly feminine man) who was restrained and peaceful?
These are assaults. They are done in front of many witnesses who are police officers. They do not arrest these criminals.
multiple incidences of unprovoked attacks on peaceful people.
@256,150 (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
Assault is assault is assault. You are so appeasing of them. Many of these attacks are on peaceful protesters. They don't even attempt to arrest them, they just mace them. Have you seen the videos? What about the cop who punched the woman (or possibly feminine man) who was restrained and peaceful?
These are assaults. They are done in front of many witnesses who are police officers. They do not arrest these criminals.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,173
marvin !CaTLdYmooc (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,185
@256,172 (jump)
Again, we see very selected clips of what happens after the situation has already escalated.
No reason to get hung up on the "peaceful protester" thing, there is no legal right to take up encampment wherever you'd like. It is not "peaceful" or lawful to occupy another person's property and refuse to leave--that is an aggressive act. There are limits to protest which these kids haven't respected.
Doing as they've done puts you at risk of arrest and/or the reasonable force necessary to remove you. I don't understand the surprise at all--it seems very dishonest.
Again, we see very selected clips of what happens after the situation has already escalated.
No reason to get hung up on the "peaceful protester" thing, there is no legal right to take up encampment wherever you'd like. It is not "peaceful" or lawful to occupy another person's property and refuse to leave--that is an aggressive act. There are limits to protest which these kids haven't respected.
Doing as they've done puts you at risk of arrest and/or the reasonable force necessary to remove you. I don't understand the surprise at all--it seems very dishonest.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #256,211
@256,150 (marvin !CaTLdYmooc)
> if you are going to act like a punk, you should expect the police to respond.
Exceptions will be made for managers of Enron or AIG.
> if you are going to act like a punk, you should expect the police to respond.
Exceptions will be made for managers of Enron or AIG.