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Topic: Does anybody have a reasonable opinion about AI?

🍋 started this discussion 3 hours ago #139,328

Does anybody have anything to say about AI that is actually grounded?
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 hours ago, 53 seconds later[^] [v] #1,472,228

It's fake and gay

🍋 (OP) replied with this 3 hours ago, 26 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,229

@previous (B)
AI is fake, and Sam Altman is gay.

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,230

Nothing wrong with it. The gay part not the fake part.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 56 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,239

5 years from now the people not using it now will be left behind.

🍋 (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,241

@previous (C)
If your boss notices you’re doing most of your work with AI, what stops your boss from laying you off?

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,243

If you’re not going to get left behind, shouldn’t it be because AI can’t do most of your work?

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,249

@1,472,241 (🍋)

> If your boss notices you’re doing most of your work with AI, what stops your boss from laying you off?

AI is a tool, not an answer. You're clueless.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,252

@1,472,229 (🍋)
Sam got fired as CEO and got reinstated due to staff objections; 700 of the 800 staff threaten to quit.

🍋 (OP) replied with this 2 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,254

@1,472,249 (D)
Well what’s the goal of using AI to avoid getting left behind? Do you mean avoid getting left behind in the corporate rat race? Because in the long term, that’s a losing battle if you think about it.

(Edited 11 minutes later.)

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 2 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,255

For instance, I’ve seen people who work in tech ironically say they feel more overworked than ever not in spite of AI but actually because of it because it’s so hard to keep up with it.

(Edited 10 minutes later.)

Anonymous D replied with this 1 hour ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,261

@1,472,254 (🍋)
My business uses AI 70% of the time now. Nobody has been laid off, just the opposite as work production has increased by almost 40% this year. That also means everyone's income has increased too. And before you ask, it is in the advertising field. The only people this will affect and hurt is the ones who doesn't learn to use it or the ones working cheap, easy replaceable jobs. And that is their own fault. AI is a gold mine for small business owners.

🍋 (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,262

@previous (D)
That’s the way it should be, it should be used as a tool to make employees more productive rather than to replace employees outright. I think more what I’m noticing is that not everyone runs their company the way that you do even if they should. A lot of tech companies for example are very eager to get rid of workers.

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,263

Now there’s some debate as to their motivations. There are multiple views you could take: they lay people off because AI can replace workers, they lay people off because they think AI can replace workers, they lay people off because they’re spending hundreds of billions of dollars on building AI data centers in a race and are trying to cut costs where they can to afford that, or they hired way too many people during COVID.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,264

@1,472,262 (🍋)
As they should. And if these people getting laid off hasn't seen this coming it is their own fault. They should have been opening their eyes and broadening their horizons. Like I said and I mean it, most people are clueless about this.

🍋 (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,265

@previous (D)
Doesn’t that kind of defeat the point you were making though? The point you were making is that AI is a tool and if you use it you won’t get left behind, but now you’re taking the opposite position that companies should lay off workers.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 hour ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,266

@1,472,263 (🍋)
Tell me who in their right mind wants to be a lay person? For fuck's sake the problem is, people have no ambition to better themselves anymore and then want to complain because they don't have enough money and are easily replaced at their job. It's their own fault.

🍋 (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,267

Like, if we take a step back for a second, isn’t this whole thing really just a race to the bottom? Cut costs, increase productivity, reduce the number of employees, etc.?

In the end it’s really a losing battle, so why not just not participate in the first place and do something else that won’t be impacted because it doesn’t rely on competition?

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,268

@1,472,266 (D)
You might not want to lay people off but that doesn’t mean other people don’t. Elon Musk for example likes laying people off.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 hour ago, 3 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,269

@1,472,265 (🍋)

> Doesn’t that kind of defeat the point you were making though? The point you were making is that AI is a tool and if you use it you won’t get left behind, but now you’re taking the opposite position that companies should lay off workers.

Again you are just clueless. Open your fucking mind for once in your life and quit trying to find a reason not to. Done talking with you.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,270

@1,472,268 (🍋)
You know Elon musk does drugs right?

🍋 (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,271

@1,472,269 (D)
I’m not saying that you’re wrong, I’m just thinking about the optimal strategy for people who work as employees. There are some professions that have never been affected by automation.

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,272

@1,472,270 (B)
Yeah. Idk who else is.

🍋 (OP) triple-posted this 1 hour ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,273

If ChatGPT was released in 2022, and it’s 2026, that’s only 4 years of LLMs. If I’m trying to think about what a good career is in 2040 or 2050, I think things that have massively seen a productivity increase because of AI automating work are probably the wrong choices.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 hour ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,274

@1,472,272 (🍋)
He's on drugs. I don't think you're understanding

🍋 (OP) replied with this 1 hour ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,275

@previous (B)
My point was there could be other CEOs who do drugs we don’t publicly know about.

🍋 (OP) double-posted this 1 hour ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,276

@1,472,273 (🍋)
Not necessarily because the jobs won’t exist, but being overworked for decades typing prompts into a chatbot doesn’t sound fun.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 34 minutes ago, 37 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,285

@1,472,241 (🍋)

> If your boss notices you’re doing most of your work with AI, what stops your boss from laying you off?

It depends what you do. I’ve used it to link disparate data to ease prediction and reporting. Thing is, it can’t produce final products we can use. A lot of people are wowed by dashboards but unless you’re a coder or supply chain specialist most people can’t look at a string of feeds and produce insights. Plus I do sales as well and the AI can’t do that for me. It does make mistakes. Which someone has to sort.

Anonymous F double-posted this 33 minutes ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,472,286

As an example I have a friend who is brilliant at systems architecture. He arranged and composed massive workflows that are actually secure and integrated them into a client’s SaaS and in house software. And they now have all of this real time data and not a fucking clue what to do with it because senior management is old and rigid and stuck in some 1960s corporate hierarchy.
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