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Topic: The new education system

Anonymous A started this discussion 17 hours ago #139,276

So everyone knows modern educational systems are modeled after the Prussian educational system which was developed to essentially turn people into obedient loyal workers/soldiers but this makes me wonder about what's happening in classrooms right now. What kind of nation are we building now that kids are having laptops with AI shoved in their faces? Are we just conditioning them to accept AI as normal and to relinquish their agency to it? More than that, are we conditioning them to be reliant on AI with no skills to pursue the acquisition and application of knowledge otherwise?

Pretty grim to think about

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 17 hours ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,471,822

Imagine how effective this system would be at controlling the minds of an entire nation. You could just pay AI companies for access to the national consciousness. Damn, sales are down! Johnson pay Elon Musk to insert subtle ads into all AI responses for the next month! You say buy they buy you say jump they jump. Drones

Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 17 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,823

Johnson! Pay openAI to tell kids they're fat, stupid, and ugly unless they buy our new supplements!

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 17 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,824

Unless it develops the other way, it all depends on if people are preoccupied with the establishment of a functional government that can influence things for the better. It requires something more than people preoccupied with the skin color of people in Mississippi.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 17 hours ago, 31 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,825

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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 9 hours ago, 7 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,940

@1,471,822 (A)
McGraw Hill was controlled by someone closely related to Ghislaine Maxwell, and you already mentioned the Prussian model.

They didn't need AI to do it before.

And a school could use self-hosted AI, and stick to models that have been vetted first.

It's not the technology itself, but people can use the technology in ways that are good or bad.

🍋 joined in and replied with this 9 hours ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,941

@previous (C)
Personally, I’d never cite an LLM as a source. They’re okay for things you don’t need to be 100% sure about. Whenever I’ve taken science courses in university taught by professors who are actively doing research, I’ve found that the scientific accuracy of LLMs is pretty bad.

I think if LLMs are used in school it should be to teach kids about LLMs not to teach kids using LLMs.

🍋 double-posted this 9 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,942

If you think about how an LLM works, you make it smarter by training it on more data. But that results in it producing the most common answer people would give. Which is not sufficient.

🍋 triple-posted this 9 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,943

I did notice there is a strong push to get rid of technology in the classroom because apparently it’s expensive and kids get distracted and end up not learning.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 8 hours ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,946

@1,471,940 (C)
Would you shut the hell up with that "it's not the tech it's the people" bullshit? You could say the same shit about guns, nukes, pitbulls, etc. People are still going to associate those things with negative outcomes especially when they're used negatively.

🍋 replied with this 8 hours ago, 19 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,954

@previous (A)
I think it’s funny you listed pitbull as a technology, but I mean we did selectively breed them so you have a point there lol

🍋 double-posted this 8 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,955

My own thought is AI doesn’t have to be bad, it’s just that the people with the means to produce AI models are greedy wealthy people, so that’s what it gets used for. If our focus was on say, helping medical researchers discover new cancer treatments that would be good. But no they just want to replace you so they don’t have to pay your salary and all that other cancer stuff is just marketing.

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Anonymous C replied with this 8 hours ago, 18 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,969

@1,471,941 (🍋)
You don't use it as a source, it tells you the source of the info.

🍋 replied with this 8 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,971

@previous (C)
I know how that feature works underneath and the way it’s presented in the UI is misleading. LLMs do not contain information about where they got information from. It’s the other way around. So I don’t trust that.

Anonymous C replied with this 8 hours ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,471,972

@1,471,955 (🍋)
Do you remember that scene in I, Robot when Will Smith asks the AI if it can make art?

The robot asks if he can back, and Will Smith is made the bitch.

AI can make beautiful art now, it wins competitions when people lie about how it was made. Can black people like Will Smith make art in 2026?

It's a lesson on personhood btw.

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