Topic: World Ice Theory.
Triptych !6Suckfishs started this discussion 15 years ago #13,926
This is the theory that ice is the basis of everything.
Our solar system was once a star. Another waterlogged star fell into it. Things exploded, shards of the watery star were flung out and froze. These blocks of ice formed a ring - the Milky Way. Blah blah blah, everything is ice.
All bullshit, of course, and the scientific community didn't really take it seriously at all. However, the movement gained a good amount of popularity within the Third Reich. It was marketed as the inverse to the theory of relativity, which was, of course, Jewish.
> "Our Nordic ancestors grew strong in ice and snow; belief in the Cosmic Ice is consequently the natural heritage of Nordic Man."
> "Just as it needed a child of Austrian culture - Hitler! - to put the Jewish politicians in their place, so it needed an Austrian to cleanse the world of Jewish science."
> "the Führer, by his very life, has proved how much a so-called 'amateur' can be superior to self-styled professionals; it needed another 'amateur' to give us a complete understanding of the Universe."
The theory's propositioner (that's not a word. I don't care.) was a bit of a reactionary ass, though. I find that kind of funny.
> If it was pointed out to him that his assertions did not work mathematically, he responded: "Calculation can only lead you astray."
> If it was pointed out that there existed photographic evidence that the Milky Way was composed of millions of stars, he responded that the pictures had been faked by "reactionary" astronomers.
> He responded in a similar way when it was pointed out that the surface temperature of the Moon had been measured in excess of 100°C in the daytime, writing to rocket expert Willy Ley: "Either you believe in me and learn, or you will be treated as the enemy."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre because Wikipeds is a wonderful starting point.
Our solar system was once a star. Another waterlogged star fell into it. Things exploded, shards of the watery star were flung out and froze. These blocks of ice formed a ring - the Milky Way. Blah blah blah, everything is ice.
All bullshit, of course, and the scientific community didn't really take it seriously at all. However, the movement gained a good amount of popularity within the Third Reich. It was marketed as the inverse to the theory of relativity, which was, of course, Jewish.
> "Our Nordic ancestors grew strong in ice and snow; belief in the Cosmic Ice is consequently the natural heritage of Nordic Man."
> "Just as it needed a child of Austrian culture - Hitler! - to put the Jewish politicians in their place, so it needed an Austrian to cleanse the world of Jewish science."
> "the Führer, by his very life, has proved how much a so-called 'amateur' can be superior to self-styled professionals; it needed another 'amateur' to give us a complete understanding of the Universe."
The theory's propositioner (that's not a word. I don't care.) was a bit of a reactionary ass, though. I find that kind of funny.
> If it was pointed out to him that his assertions did not work mathematically, he responded: "Calculation can only lead you astray."
> If it was pointed out that there existed photographic evidence that the Milky Way was composed of millions of stars, he responded that the pictures had been faked by "reactionary" astronomers.
> He responded in a similar way when it was pointed out that the surface temperature of the Moon had been measured in excess of 100°C in the daytime, writing to rocket expert Willy Ley: "Either you believe in me and learn, or you will be treated as the enemy."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre because Wikipeds is a wonderful starting point.
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sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 31 minutes later[^] [v] #248,609
Woah. That's some Kim il sung shit there. He too came up with many modern theories!
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sluggy double-posted this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #248,611
It's amazing how popular this theory got. Some people still believe it today. It's amazing how people like to hold on to beliefs.
sluggy triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #248,612
@248,609 (sluggy)
I can't edit this, but I misread that to be that hitler was responsible, in part, for the theory. That he was the one who was going to cleanse the world of Jewish science.
I can't edit this, but I misread that to be that hitler was responsible, in part, for the theory. That he was the one who was going to cleanse the world of Jewish science.
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #248,615
> it needed an Austrian to cleanse the world of Jewish science
> If it was pointed out that there existed photographic evidence that the Milky Way was composed of millions of stars, he responded that the pictures had been faked by "reactionary" astronomers.
Oh shit! The entire galaxy is a Jewish conspiracy!
> If it was pointed out that there existed photographic evidence that the Milky Way was composed of millions of stars, he responded that the pictures had been faked by "reactionary" astronomers.
Oh shit! The entire galaxy is a Jewish conspiracy!
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,674
@previous (C)
Yes. And every other galaxy is too. :3
@248,611 (sluggy)
There've always been groups of people who go for beliefs that have no evidence backing them/can be proven false.
The Flat Earth Society, for instance~
Yes. And every other galaxy is too. :3
@248,611 (sluggy)
There've always been groups of people who go for beliefs that have no evidence backing them/can be proven false.
The Flat Earth Society, for instance~
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,676
The Nazis also bought into the hollow earth theory. They sent something like two expeditions to the north or south pole trying to find "the entrance" into the hollow earth. Supposedly it was full of riches and magical creatures.
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Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,684
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
The Nazi ideologies are fucking fascinating.
...Well, less the Nazi ideologies, more the ones that were supported in a half-assed way by the Third Reich for a while.
> Because they suspected that our surface is on the interior of a concave Earth, Hitler sent an expedition, including Dr. Heinz Fischer and powerful telescopic cameras, to the Baltic island of Rugen to spy on the British fleet. Fischer did so not by aiming his cameras across the waters, but by pointing them up to peer across the atmosphere to the Atlantic Ocean.
> An important element in the Nazi mythos was the belief that representatives of a powerful, underground secret race emerged from time to time to walk among Homo sapiens. Hitler's frenzied desire to breed a select race of Nordic types was inspired by his obsessive hope that it should be the Germanic peoples who would be chosen above all other humans to interbreed with the subterranean supermen in the mutation of a new race of heroes, demigods, and god men.
That's interesting as well. :3
There's this too. http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/kalachakra/shambhala/nazi_connection_shambhala_tibet.html
I have no idea how much of that is factual, but still an interesting read. I have something to do for the next little while.
The Nazi ideologies are fucking fascinating.
...Well, less the Nazi ideologies, more the ones that were supported in a half-assed way by the Third Reich for a while.
> Because they suspected that our surface is on the interior of a concave Earth, Hitler sent an expedition, including Dr. Heinz Fischer and powerful telescopic cameras, to the Baltic island of Rugen to spy on the British fleet. Fischer did so not by aiming his cameras across the waters, but by pointing them up to peer across the atmosphere to the Atlantic Ocean.
> An important element in the Nazi mythos was the belief that representatives of a powerful, underground secret race emerged from time to time to walk among Homo sapiens. Hitler's frenzied desire to breed a select race of Nordic types was inspired by his obsessive hope that it should be the Germanic peoples who would be chosen above all other humans to interbreed with the subterranean supermen in the mutation of a new race of heroes, demigods, and god men.
That's interesting as well. :3
There's this too. http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/en/archives/advanced/kalachakra/shambhala/nazi_connection_shambhala_tibet.html
I have no idea how much of that is factual, but still an interesting read. I have something to do for the next little while.
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,689
http://www.carnwyffa.u-net.com/documents/green_dragon.html
:')
I want to read this but holy shit dat pricing
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0709042604/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
:')
I want to read this but holy shit dat pricing
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/0709042604/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,699
@248,676 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> The Nazis also bought into the hollow earth theory. They sent something like two expeditions to the north or south pole trying to find "the entrance" into the hollow earth. Supposedly it was full of riches and magical creatures.
I've heard that too, I don't think it's true though.
> The Nazis also bought into the hollow earth theory. They sent something like two expeditions to the north or south pole trying to find "the entrance" into the hollow earth. Supposedly it was full of riches and magical creatures.
I've heard that too, I don't think it's true though.
MudDog !ahLiFtedC. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,717
I DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING POSTED HERE. WHY!
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,752
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,766
@248,684 (Triptych !6Suckfishs)
It's like they were actively trying to seek out bizarre ideas and throw money at them. They must've been a tad desperate to start paying expeditions to point their spy cameras in completely the wrong direction.
@248,699 (E)
I wouldn't put it past them. Though to their credit, they did start to lose enthusiasm after the first nutter they funded failed to deliver.
It's like they were actively trying to seek out bizarre ideas and throw money at them. They must've been a tad desperate to start paying expeditions to point their spy cameras in completely the wrong direction.
@248,699 (E)
I wouldn't put it past them. Though to their credit, they did start to lose enthusiasm after the first nutter they funded failed to deliver.
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,768
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,771
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,776
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,783
@248,766 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Nah, not if it seemed like a really clever idea at the time. Although I'm not sure how they figured that would work...
Nah, not if it seemed like a really clever idea at the time. Although I'm not sure how they figured that would work...
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,785
@previous (Triptych !6Suckfishs)
I know, I was exaggerating a little. :')
It's funny to think that they were still that... uninformed then. I guess that they just had lots of money to throw around so they thought "Fuck it, one of these crackpot theories might come good!".
I know, I was exaggerating a little. :')
It's funny to think that they were still that... uninformed then. I guess that they just had lots of money to throw around so they thought "Fuck it, one of these crackpot theories might come good!".
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,793
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'd really like to find out what they were thinking. Or if they simply did not give a fuck.
I'd really like to find out what they were thinking. Or if they simply did not give a fuck.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,802
@248,783 (Triptych !6Suckfishs)
> Although I'm not sure how they figured that would work...
The Earth is like the outside of a bowl. So if you look at say 70 degrees you look away from the bowl edge and into the space outside the bowl. But the Nazis, they considered that we are on the inside of the bowl, so if you zoom far enough at 70 degrees you will eventually be looking at another part of the bowl.
> Although I'm not sure how they figured that would work...
The Earth is like the outside of a bowl. So if you look at say 70 degrees you look away from the bowl edge and into the space outside the bowl. But the Nazis, they considered that we are on the inside of the bowl, so if you zoom far enough at 70 degrees you will eventually be looking at another part of the bowl.
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 35 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,809
@previous (I)
No, I got that. But I don't get how they reconciled that with how nobody has looked at the sky and seen the earth~
No, I got that. But I don't get how they reconciled that with how nobody has looked at the sky and seen the earth~
vocalon joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,821
You scare me sometimes.
This is awesome though :')
This is awesome though :')
Triptych !6Suckfishs (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,858
@previous (vocalon)
:') It is.
This is kind of cool too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril
Sci-fi novel and some people take it as truth...
:') It is.
This is kind of cool too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vril
Sci-fi novel and some people take it as truth...
vocalon replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #248,860
@previous (Triptych !6Suckfishs)
I read "Sci-fi novel and some people take it as truth" and immediately thought of Tom Cruise.
This is better than I expected.
:')
I read "Sci-fi novel and some people take it as truth" and immediately thought of Tom Cruise.
This is better than I expected.
:')