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Topic: What do you think of Supranational unions?

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #1,387

Like the European Union, African Union, Arab League, Association of South East Asian Nations, Union of South American Nations, and the like?

Aside from the EU, who has integrated a lot already, the African Union seems to be planning on faster integration and many leaders have called for a unified currency among other goals.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 41 minutes later[^] [v] #27,060

Where the states have similar goals and compatible cultures it makes perfect sense. USA and Australia are technically supermational unions aren't they?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,063

@previous (B)
They are both Federations. But the USA and Australia are one nation. The EU is many nations, unifying as one state.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,075

@previous (A)
Explain the difference.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,080

@previous (B)
A nation is a group of people, like an ethnicity, that share a common history, language, culture, etc.

A state is an organization with territory, a government, a leader, military, currency, etc.

Some nations have multiple states, and some have none. Tibet for example is a nation without a state.

France is a nation and state, as is Germany, and the UK. They are unifying their states into one (the EU), but will remain seperate nations with distinct cultures and languages.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,088

USSA is united socialist states of America.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,090

Explain the difference between a federation and a union.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #27,095

@previous (B)
A federation is multiple states that have a Federal government that overlaps them all. In the US all states have a constitution and government, senate, governor, legislature, National Guard (who serves the governer before the president), and territory. But a Federal government exists that authority in all the states.

The EU has several member states who are slowly giving power to the EU, which many call a Federal government, but officially denies this.

A union is essentially a less official term for a federation.
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