Topic: Mars
Live&Lemon started this discussion 4 hours ago #138,685
Looks fun doesn’t it?Live&Lemon (OP) double-posted this 4 hours ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #1,466,521
Red rocks, red dirt, red sky, no trees, no lakes, no rivers, no seas, no people, no animals, no grass.
I don’t know what you’re thinking but I know what I’m thinking. Sign me up.
I don’t know what you’re thinking but I know what I’m thinking. Sign me up.
Live&Lemon (OP) triple-posted this 4 hours ago, 5 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,522
Now that I think about it, it’s weird how much technology we invented and we still can’t go to Mars. Isn’t that weird?
Tiny Dick Shemale !faggot joined in and replied with this 4 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,524
Looks okay to me...Live&Lemon (OP) replied with this 4 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,525
@previous (Tiny Dick Shemale !faggot)
Terraforming Mars is impossible without moving gas for an atmosphere from somewhere else to Mars because Mars doesn’t have enough frozen carbon dioxide.
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/mars-terraforming-not-possible-using-present-day-technology/
Terraforming Mars is impossible without moving gas for an atmosphere from somewhere else to Mars because Mars doesn’t have enough frozen carbon dioxide.
https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/mars-terraforming-not-possible-using-present-day-technology/
Tiny Dick Shemale !faggot replied with this 4 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,527
@previous (Live&Lemon)
Not with that attitude. This is typical behavior of you young people. No drive to achieve the impossible.
Not with that attitude. This is typical behavior of you young people. No drive to achieve the impossible.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 4 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,528
@1,466,521 (Live&Lemon)
> Red rocks, red dirt, red sky, no trees, no lakes, no rivers, no seas, no people, no animals, no grass.
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> I don’t know what you’re thinking but I know what I’m thinking. Sign me up.
Regolith is toxic. The gravity is wrong. You’d need to blot out deadly radiation. The whole grift is a deflection from the pending destruction of Earth. At most it’s a McMurdo Station.
> Red rocks, red dirt, red sky, no trees, no lakes, no rivers, no seas, no people, no animals, no grass.
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> I don’t know what you’re thinking but I know what I’m thinking. Sign me up.
Regolith is toxic. The gravity is wrong. You’d need to blot out deadly radiation. The whole grift is a deflection from the pending destruction of Earth. At most it’s a McMurdo Station.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 4 hours ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,529
@1,466,527 (Tiny Dick Shemale !faggot)
But Mars isn't far enough to prevent extinction by ultra slow fatal pathogen. Somebody catches something on earth, starts coughing on mars
But Mars isn't far enough to prevent extinction by ultra slow fatal pathogen. Somebody catches something on earth, starts coughing on mars
Live&Lemon joined in and replied with this 4 hours ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,530
@previous (D)
Tbh I think a disease wiping out all of humanity is unlikely. It’s not impossible, it’s happened to various species of trees more than once. If someone bioengineered a virus I think it’s far more likely than something that emerges naturally.
Tbh I think a disease wiping out all of humanity is unlikely. It’s not impossible, it’s happened to various species of trees more than once. If someone bioengineered a virus I think it’s far more likely than something that emerges naturally.
Live&Lemon double-posted this 4 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,531
I also don’t think that humans living on Mars would prevent human extinction in general though. Because Mars is much harder to survive on than Earth, if ships from Earth stopped coming, the people on Mars would die off eventually.
Live&Lemon triple-posted this 4 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,532
A disease might wipe out 90% of the population though. There is a historical precedent for that, when the Spanish made contact with the Native Americans, 90% of the Native Americans died from smallpox. So it is possible for a disease to kill 90% of people. That’s definitely possible. Everybody, I’m not sure. But 90% of people I’m absolutely sure of.
Anonymous D replied with this 4 hours ago, 9 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,533
@1,466,531 (Live&Lemon)
Well mars could send people in biohazard suits, just don't touch the skeletons in Walmart. But even then some dumbass would probably kiss the skeleton of whomever, like some celebrity.
Well mars could send people in biohazard suits, just don't touch the skeletons in Walmart. But even then some dumbass would probably kiss the skeleton of whomever, like some celebrity.
Live&Lemon replied with this 4 hours ago, 30 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,534
Anonymous D replied with this 4 hours ago, 31 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,535
Anonymous C replied with this 4 hours ago, 33 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,536
@1,466,530 (Live&Lemon)
> Tbh I think a disease wiping out all of humanity is unlikely. It’s not impossible, it’s happened to various species of trees more than once. If someone bioengineered a virus I think it’s far more likely than something that emerges naturally.
This. In 1950 Australian authorities used myxoma virus to kill rabbits. 99% of those infected died. Some have built up resistance over the decades but they were blitzed again in the 1990s. Fortunately the problem is distribution. Soon any number of malcontents will be able to cook something up in a CRISPR.
> Tbh I think a disease wiping out all of humanity is unlikely. It’s not impossible, it’s happened to various species of trees more than once. If someone bioengineered a virus I think it’s far more likely than something that emerges naturally.
This. In 1950 Australian authorities used myxoma virus to kill rabbits. 99% of those infected died. Some have built up resistance over the decades but they were blitzed again in the 1990s. Fortunately the problem is distribution. Soon any number of malcontents will be able to cook something up in a CRISPR.
Anonymous D replied with this 4 hours ago, 18 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,537
@1,466,534 (Live&Lemon)
Well you know, they'd bring people from mars to farm on earth. Except in biohazard suits
Well you know, they'd bring people from mars to farm on earth. Except in biohazard suits
Live&Lemon replied with this 3 hours ago, 15 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,538
I think the only way humans don’t ever go extinct is if we invent a means of interstellar travel before world war three or some AI engineered bioweapon or something ends the world. If we don’t do that, then at some point we will go extinct, it’s just inevitable.
Live&Lemon double-posted this 3 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,539
@1,466,536 (C)
I might sound like I’m crazy for this, but I’m not sure if it’s even a bad thing in the long run. I don’t want people to die, but civilizations have always risen and fallen throughout history. There could be some purpose to it. You need new ideas and new cultures to form somehow. If our current society keeps going on forever, we’re so resource inefficient, we’re going to destroy the planet. If most of us die now, and the survivors had to rebuild, we might discover a superior way of doing things that allows for the world to recover and have a population of 8 billion people again 1,000 years in the future, but without these geopolitical conflicts and fossil fuels or whatever. Maybe there’s a different way we could structure politics and economics that’s better.
I might sound like I’m crazy for this, but I’m not sure if it’s even a bad thing in the long run. I don’t want people to die, but civilizations have always risen and fallen throughout history. There could be some purpose to it. You need new ideas and new cultures to form somehow. If our current society keeps going on forever, we’re so resource inefficient, we’re going to destroy the planet. If most of us die now, and the survivors had to rebuild, we might discover a superior way of doing things that allows for the world to recover and have a population of 8 billion people again 1,000 years in the future, but without these geopolitical conflicts and fossil fuels or whatever. Maybe there’s a different way we could structure politics and economics that’s better.
Live&Lemon triple-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,541
If you think about the United States for example, 90% of the people who used to inhabit this land died, and now we’re the most powerful country. It is possible to recover. Granted in that case the native population was replaced and there were instances of genocidal actions and it’s horrible. But the point is even if 90% of us die, 200 years later, everybody will forget about how tragic that was and we’ll have powerful wealthy societies again.
Live&Lemon quadruple-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,542
Or I guess it’s more like 500 years, because the US is 250 years old, but Europeans were here for 250 years before the US formed, they just weren’t independent and we don’t talk about that period of time because it’s not super impressive with the starvation and cannibalism that was going on. It’s kinda ironic white people back then called black people cannibals when white people were eating each other in what’s now the United States because they were barely surviving.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/starving-settlers-in-jamestown-colony-resorted-to-cannibalism-46000815/
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/starving-settlers-in-jamestown-colony-resorted-to-cannibalism-46000815/
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Anonymous C replied with this 3 hours ago, 10 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,545
@1,466,538 (Live&Lemon)
> I think the only way humans don’t ever go extinct is if we invent a means of interstellar travel before world war three or some AI engineered bioweapon or something ends the world. If we don’t do that, then at some point we will go extinct, it’s just inevitable.
In geologic time the planet dies regardless of us. We would be terraforming Pangea Ultima once the continents collide again. You get super typhoons and an unlivable interior. Later, plate tectonics ceases and the Earth will be consumed by our sun once it turns into a red giant. Beating entropy requires an interstellar civilization. Question is, after a few generations in space and facing new elements, radiation, and gravity, would travelers remain human? Imagine some future specist organization, multiethnic at that point, agitating for eugenics and the preservation of “true humans.”
> I think the only way humans don’t ever go extinct is if we invent a means of interstellar travel before world war three or some AI engineered bioweapon or something ends the world. If we don’t do that, then at some point we will go extinct, it’s just inevitable.
In geologic time the planet dies regardless of us. We would be terraforming Pangea Ultima once the continents collide again. You get super typhoons and an unlivable interior. Later, plate tectonics ceases and the Earth will be consumed by our sun once it turns into a red giant. Beating entropy requires an interstellar civilization. Question is, after a few generations in space and facing new elements, radiation, and gravity, would travelers remain human? Imagine some future specist organization, multiethnic at that point, agitating for eugenics and the preservation of “true humans.”
Live&Lemon replied with this 3 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,547
@previous (C)
I kinda doubt that it would work that way. If you look at what happened on Earth for instance, the Nazis thought that humans came from Europe and that Europeans were the most pure humans and that Africans were impure. Which is ironic because Homo sapiens originally came from Africa and Europeans have a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA since Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthals when they encountered Neanderthals in Europe. I think people will have a narcissistic tendency to assume that whatever they are is the correct thing. So if humans went to another planet, evolved in such a way that they look superficially different, and then rediscovered Earth, they would probably assume they’re superior to us.
I kinda doubt that it would work that way. If you look at what happened on Earth for instance, the Nazis thought that humans came from Europe and that Europeans were the most pure humans and that Africans were impure. Which is ironic because Homo sapiens originally came from Africa and Europeans have a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA since Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthals when they encountered Neanderthals in Europe. I think people will have a narcissistic tendency to assume that whatever they are is the correct thing. So if humans went to another planet, evolved in such a way that they look superficially different, and then rediscovered Earth, they would probably assume they’re superior to us.
Live&Lemon double-posted this 3 hours ago, 1 minute later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,550
I think in the future Earth might have the same problem as Africa. Since humans originated here, Earth will be the most diverse planet, which will make us easier to conquer.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 hours ago, 9 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,551
@1,466,547 (Live&Lemon)
> I kinda doubt that it would work that way. If you look at what happened on Earth for instance, the Nazis thought that humans came from Europe and that Europeans were the most pure humans and that Africans were impure. Which is ironic because Homo sapiens originally came from Africa and Europeans have a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA since Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthals when they encountered Neanderthals in Europe. I think people will have a narcissistic tendency to assume that whatever they are is the correct thing. So if humans went to another planet, evolved in such a way that they look superficially different, and then rediscovered Earth, they would probably assume they’re superior to us.
Of course they would. And more warfare. I do think there’d be a “true humans” organization and that they’d be multiethnic at that point - and they’d use the heroic realism propaganda that can’t decide whether it’s idealized virility or gay porn.
> I kinda doubt that it would work that way. If you look at what happened on Earth for instance, the Nazis thought that humans came from Europe and that Europeans were the most pure humans and that Africans were impure. Which is ironic because Homo sapiens originally came from Africa and Europeans have a small percentage of Neanderthal DNA since Homo sapiens interbred with Neanderthals when they encountered Neanderthals in Europe. I think people will have a narcissistic tendency to assume that whatever they are is the correct thing. So if humans went to another planet, evolved in such a way that they look superficially different, and then rediscovered Earth, they would probably assume they’re superior to us.
Of course they would. And more warfare. I do think there’d be a “true humans” organization and that they’d be multiethnic at that point - and they’d use the heroic realism propaganda that can’t decide whether it’s idealized virility or gay porn.
Live&Lemon replied with this 3 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,552
@previous (C)
Tbh, even though interplanetary ethnic conflict could be a problem, I hope we’re lucky enough to have that problem. We could all just die here on Earth.
Tbh, even though interplanetary ethnic conflict could be a problem, I hope we’re lucky enough to have that problem. We could all just die here on Earth.
Live&Lemon double-posted this 3 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,554
I don’t feel like AI will replace humanity, but if it did, I don’t feel like that’s the next step in evolution, because it isn’t conscious.
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Live&Lemon triple-posted this 3 hours ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,466,556
Some people think it’s the next step in evolution. But I’m not sure they’ve really considered that would mean the future where experience on Earth amounts to less than this.