> “We need habitats far beyond planet earth for the species to survive.” > > Great, in the meantime, would you support environmental regulations and taxation to keep earth habitable for the near term? > > “Fuck you. I’m okay. I have bunkers in New Zealand and Argentina.”
Given even at the speed of light one cannot in a life time, get even close to something that might support life.
Mars looks like the best option. A goal that is worth trying - Columbus style.
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Doesn’t perseverance already use neural networks to automate various tasks? They even had an autonomous helicopter on Mars. It takes light 20 minutes to get from Earth to Mars so there’s a huge incentive to automate robotic probes.
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Btw that’s 20 minutes one way, so if you were to send a command to a rover, it takes 20 minutes for that command to get to the rover, and then once the rover moves it takes 20 minutes for it to send an image of its new position back to earth which is a 40 minute delay.
So interestingly, you couldn’t have phone calls with people on Earth from Mars and you couldn’t livestream video from Earth to Mars, so you couldn’t watch YouTube videos or stream Netflix or do a video call. But you could send emails.
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Or I guess you could watch YouTube videos, you’d just have to click on a video, wait 40 minutes for it to download, and then watch it. Which sounds awful.
> > “We need habitats far beyond planet earth for the species to survive.” > > > > Great, in the meantime, would you support environmental regulations and taxation to keep earth habitable for the near term? > > > > “Fuck you. I’m okay. I have bunkers in New Zealand and Argentina.” > > Given even at the speed of light one cannot in a life time, get even close to something that might support life. > > Mars looks like the best option. A goal that is worth trying - Columbus style.
It is worth landing, exploring, setting up a McMurdo Station. But the future of humanity is there. Mars is a waypoint to Ceres and then to deep space. I’m saying it’s used as a big vision distraction to cover current avarice.
> Or I guess you could watch YouTube videos, you’d just have to click on a video, wait 40 minutes for it to download, and then watch it. Which sounds awful.
Satellite relays could be improved. It would be funny if we developed Von Neumann probes for deep space exploration. Mind you, they’re not anthropomorphic. They just optimize over time. And without consciousness they colonize the universe, then boomerang back to Earth thousands of years hence to further optimize themselves using all remaining resources.
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No it still takes 20 minutes for light to go one way between Earth and Mars, the speed of light is the speed of causality. It’s physically impossible to make light go any faster.
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The only way to get anything from Earth to Mars in less than 20 minutes is if we find a way to distort spacetime, which means we’ve invented a warp drive and therefore have no reason to go to Mars because then we can go to other star systems like in Star Wars.
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I mean, technically there’s no reason why you can’t go to another star system, even without new physics or faster than light travel, if you reach the solar system’s escape velocity, there’s nothing in space to slow you down, so you’ll keep going in a straight line forever because of inertia so you’ll get there eventually. And you don’t really have to go faster than light, if you just went a thousand times faster than the fastest space craft ever made, you could get to the nearest star system in decades, which is shorter than a human life. You just need to 1,000x the thrust output of an engine.
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I guess there’s a limit to how much energy you can get by reacting two chemicals together so doing something other than that would be step one. You have to expand the gas more to get more thrust and the only way to do that is more heat and the only things that generate more heat than chemical reactions would be fission and fusion…
> No it still takes 20 minutes for light to go one way between Earth and Mars, the speed of light is the speed of causality. It’s physically impossible to make light go any faster.
> I mean, technically there’s no reason why you can’t go to another star system, even without new physics or faster than light travel, if you reach the solar system’s escape velocity, there’s nothing in space to slow you down, so you’ll keep going in a straight line forever because of inertia so you’ll get there eventually. And you don’t really have to go faster than light, if you just went a thousand times faster than the fastest space craft ever made, you could get to the nearest star system in decades, which is shorter than a human life. You just need to 1,000x the thrust output of an engine.
Most people would go nuts from being locked in a rocket.