Topic: The future of the government killing you
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 weeks ago #138,040
Now in this case the kid had uncontrollable seizures and other medical complications but I really wonder how this kind of policy will play out. You think we'll see a resurgence in the Eugenics movement? Just convince all the ugly, short, dumb people to kill themselves and we can use CRISPR to make perfect designer babies.Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #1,460,882
I guess my stance on it is I don’t think we should kill people and I don’t think we should try to make "superior" people. I think we should leave genetic research at disease prevention. For instance, if you could modify somebody’s DNA to prevent them from dying from cancer, that’s ok with me. But if you’re trying to make them taller or smarter or more attractive or something, genes aren’t simple and one gene can affect multiple different things, so there are probably tradeoffs we’re unaware of. For a long time they used to think most of our DNA was junk because it doesn’t encode proteins. Now it’s not so clear because some of it actually turns other genes on or off in certain situations. My opinion is that probably most of our DNA does something even if we don’t understand it.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,460,884
In terms of euthanasia though, children can’t consent. We can have a debate about adults. Also it’s not like anybody remembers being 1 or 2. They circumcise babies without any anesthesia and nobody remembers it. We probably shouldn’t do that, there’s not really a great medical justification for it, it was originally to stop boys from masturbating and isn’t required in Christianity because of what Jesus said about it.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,460,994
@OP
> Now in this case the kid had uncontrollable seizures and other medical complications but I really wonder how this kind of policy will play out. You think we'll see a resurgence in the Eugenics movement? Just convince all the ugly, short, dumb people to kill themselves and we can use CRISPR to make perfect designer babies.
My biggest issue with eugenics was that it was class-based. If you read some of the histories, you had plenty of cases of “white trash” teen girls being sterilized after an out of wedlock birth. After being raped.
A positive form of eugenics would involve universal amnio and incentivizing people with heritable conditions to not reproduce. There’s no reason for Huntington’s to exist. In the Nordic countries there are almost no dwarves or Down Syndrome people anymore.
None of this would work in the U.S. because of the religious assholes who ignore science and proudly trot out their Trigs.
Anyone can do basic genetic testing and decide whether they have anything their union would pass on.
> Now in this case the kid had uncontrollable seizures and other medical complications but I really wonder how this kind of policy will play out. You think we'll see a resurgence in the Eugenics movement? Just convince all the ugly, short, dumb people to kill themselves and we can use CRISPR to make perfect designer babies.
My biggest issue with eugenics was that it was class-based. If you read some of the histories, you had plenty of cases of “white trash” teen girls being sterilized after an out of wedlock birth. After being raped.
A positive form of eugenics would involve universal amnio and incentivizing people with heritable conditions to not reproduce. There’s no reason for Huntington’s to exist. In the Nordic countries there are almost no dwarves or Down Syndrome people anymore.
None of this would work in the U.S. because of the religious assholes who ignore science and proudly trot out their Trigs.
Anyone can do basic genetic testing and decide whether they have anything their union would pass on.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,460,998
The kid was suffering, they couldn't do anything. The world sucks sometimes
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,461,000
The problem is you’d need a mass movement to push this sort of change and it won’t end up being scientific. It would be stupid like MAHA and run by a quack like RFK Jr., who is hung up on seed oils and bullshit but won’t do the basics like using EU-type regulations against packaged foods sold in the U.S.