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Topic: Firebombed French paper is no free speech martyr
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w started this discussion 15 years ago#13,802
I don't really care for Islam for a number of reasons, but I thought this was an interesting commentary about the firebombing of Charlie Hebdo yesterday. (A French satirical newspaper, which published a mocking edition on Islam with cartoons of Mohammed, with the expected result...)
Okay, so can we finally stop with the idiotic, divisive, and destructive efforts by “majority sections†of Western nations to bait Muslim members with petulant, futile demonstrations that “they†aren’t going to tell “us†what can and can’t be done in free societies? Because not only are such Islamophobic antics futile and childish, but they also openly beg for the very violent responses from extremists their authors claim to proudly defy in the name of common good. What common good is served by creating more division and anger, and by tempting belligerent reaction?
The difficulty in answering that question is also what’s making it hard to have much sympathy for the French satirical newspaper firebombed this morning, after it published another stupid and totally unnecessary edition mocking Islam. The Wednesday morning arson attack destroyed the Paris editorial offices of Charlie Hebdo after the paper published an issue certain to enrage hard-core Islamists (and offend average Muslims) with articles and “funny†cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed — depictions forbidden in Islam to boot. Predictably, the strike unleashed a torrent of unqualified condemnation from French politicians, many of whom called the burning of the notoriously impertinent paper as “an attack on democracy by its enemies.†...
It’s obvious free societies cannot simply give in to hysterical demands made by members of any beyond-the-pale group. And it’s just as clear that intimidation and violence must be condemned and combated for whatever reason they’re committed — especially if their goal is to undermine freedoms and liberties of open societies. But it’s just evident members of those same free societies have to exercise a minimum of intelligence, calculation, civility and decency in practicing their rights and liberties — and that isn’t happening when a newspaper decides to mock an entire faith on the logic that it can claim to make a politically noble statement by gratuitously pissing people off.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later[^][v]#246,447
lol fuck muslims
. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#246,723
When I see the filth my children watch on TV and in the movies, I see the jew
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When I see the banishment of nativity scenes, the Ten Commandments removed from courthouses, the word “Christmas†replaced by “Holiday,†Washington and Lincolns’ birthday combined into President’s Day, and the enactment of a Federal holiday for Martin Luther King, a communist, I see the jew
When I see my children taught to honor anti-heroes and being told falsehoods about their own history and being made to feel guilty for it I see the jew
You should too
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 55 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#246,775
@previous (.)
YEAH! FUCK THE JEWS.
Fuck em, hes saying what were all thinking.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#246,816
Cool justification, cunt.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#246,824
I don't care for most religions, but feel like this is a dick move.
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Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#246,845
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY) > which published a mocking edition on Islam with cartoons of Mohammed, with the expected result...
The expected result of publishing a magazine is not acts of terrorism.
> Free speech and free press is "idiotic, divisive, destructive, petulant, and futile.
Free speech does not "bait" muslims anymore than short skirts bait rapists.
The argument is merely a variant of "sluts are asking to be raped".