For instance, I mentioned Stonehenge to some guy probably 20s and he though I was referencing being stoned, as with the marijuana. Another time, a chick, early 30s, who was preparing something about languages, I mentioned the Rosetta Stone. She hadn't heard of that (and not the fucking software of the same name). Another time, some lady, I don't fuckin' know 40s, more, whatever, was not familiar with rulers enough to know that a cm has 10 mm.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later[^][v]#1,460,543
I don't know, I think that the Rosetta Stone isn't something you'd know about unless you have an at least cursory interest in history or linguistics. I am willing to give early 30s chick a pass on that one.
I am with you on the other two things, though. I think that Stonehenge is popular enough that it should be common knowledge.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,549
Oh yeah all the time. Apparently they didn't start teaching about plate tectonics in school until fairly recently so when I brought it up to some old folks they were totally blown away lol it's really interesting to think about how depending on when or where you were born you can just be lacking basic knowledge about things.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,565
The level of dumbfuckery is expanding. Access to knowledge is nearly limitless. I think of the encyclopedias I had as a kid, thumbing through and shifting volumes. Now you can access archives, think tank reports, international studies, and compile your own volumes to interest.
And yet we have this vast retreat to brain sugar entertainment and displacement activity.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,566
@previous (F)
A lot of the information on the internet is surface level and redundant though. As soon as you try searching for anything more in depth than some common knowledge pop science thing it stops being that useful. Also I noticed google’s AI cites Reddit all the time, and people on Reddit have no idea what the heck they’re talking about.
> A lot of the information on the internet is surface level and redundant though. As soon as you try searching for anything more in depth than some common knowledge pop science thing it stops being that useful. Also I noticed google’s AI cites Reddit all the time, and people on Reddit have no idea what the heck they’re talking about.
This is a great distinction. I use a lot of sites that aren’t well indexed. I go to specific sites to pull things or subscribe to their RSS feeds. I have my own basic HTML configuration for dashboards and alerts of new releases. Hard nerd shit. But maybe they’re going to find the smoking gun for who the Sea Peoples actually were.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,572
@previous (F)
Idk if Google still uses page rank, but page rank does seem like it has an inherit bias that pages that are more strongly linked with are ranked higher, which obviously favors websites that just have more pages to begin with which obviously favors websites with user generated content, which obviously favors more unreliable sources, like Reddit.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,573
The original page rank is actually a surprisingly simple algorithm, you just have a program that has a list of all the webpages on the internet and then it randomly follows links and every time it visits a page it increments its rank by one, then 20% of the time it jumps to a random page to avoid getting stuck in a loop.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,576
@1,460,565 (F)
Schooling has just been hollowed out. Without the connection between theory and reality, most students will lose all motivation and it's precisely this middle step (application of theory in real life situations) that's been stripped out of school (on purpose of course lol your rulers hate your guts). > b-b-but surely learning for curiosity's sake is-
A luxury most cannot afford yes. Not everyone has 5 free hours a day to learn about the digestive tract of small rodents or the legal system in bosnia. There's just not enough time and even if people had time many don't see the point because modern education sucks and naturally they want to make it worse with hallucinating AI yayy!!!
> Idk if Google still uses page rank, but page rank does seem like it has an inherit bias that pages that are more strongly linked with are ranked higher, which obviously favors websites that just have more pages to begin with which obviously favors websites with user generated content, which obviously favors more unreliable sources, like Reddit.
Ranking is all SEO and pay to play. That’s why it’s all Reddit, Quora, Amazon, and Temu. I think 2008-2010 was the last era of Google greatness despite its monopoly. They even had a Google Uncle Sam that let you see deep into federal Web sites.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 22 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,581
@previous (F)
It’s kinda sad actually. I know most people don’t code and just make wix cookie cutter and/or anthropoic AI slop websites, but it would still be cool if normal people who aren’t software developers trying to get hired were still making their own personal websites.
> A lot of the information on the internet is surface level and redundant though. As soon as you try searching for anything more in depth than some common knowledge pop science thing it stops being that useful.
It's very easy to find high quality sources if you are looking.
SciHub exists, and every major university puts up free resources for the public. News archives are easy to find too.
> Also I noticed google’s AI cites Reddit all the time, and people on Reddit have no idea what the heck they’re talking about.
You can tell it not to, and even put requirements about citing original sources, documentation, or anything else.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,598
@1,460,596 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Once again blaming me for pointing out that you're wrong, instead of reflecting on the fact that you said something idiotic.
The entire world's information, seconds away in your pocket, and you act like it's just too hard.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,601
I’m already well aware that you don’t like me because I’m black, you’ve confessed to being a racist and you’ve used racial slurs before. I’ve already made my mind up about what I think of you. There’s no reason for you to talk to me. Why can’t you just stop obsessing over me and talk to somebody else who actually likes you?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 35 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,605
@previous (H)
As if I give a shit. I don’t like you and I don’t want to hear what you have to say, so stop talking to me. Why do you want attention so bad?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 33 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,610
You can’t handle rejection, that’s probably why you think women are delusional. The truth is you’re a social retard who shouldn’t be allowed to live on your own.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 34 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,611
You can’t handle rejection, that’s probably why you think women are delusional. The truth is you’re a social retard who shouldn’t be allowed to live on your own. It’s like no matter how many times I tell you I don’t like you, it doesn’t compute. I want you to know that I hate you and I hope you die.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 38 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,619
I’m not just going to let you bully me and then let you say whatever you want. You don’t like what I have to say, that’s why you want to derail conversations I’m having with other people to make it about you.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,623
@1,460,620 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You repeat a lot of misinformation, and each time it turns out you're wrong you think the answer is to lash out at me for pointing it out.
The actual answer is to think about whether what you said actually makes sense before you post it. Either that or learn to manage your pride, at least on anonymous message boards.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 40 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,630
@previous (H)
Yeah because you’re a Nazi. You literally said you think that black people are biologically inferior and have lower IQs. People like you deserve to die. The world is a better place without people like you.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,632
The way I see it, it’s you or I, and there’s not a hell of a lot to think about. I can’t coexist with you in a world where you think you’re entitled to whatever you want because you’re white. I’d rather kill the entire world than let that happen, and maybe it’s sad for you, but I don’t care.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 59 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,633
@1,460,630 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I said I believe in science, and I said there was a large study showing black people have lower IQs.
And you never could explain how it was wrong. You've implied the test was biased (and we've been over this, it isn't rigged for any race), that the people who conducted it were racist, and so on.
How intelligent you think someone is, is entirely different than if you love them or hate them.
You still use "hate" to mean disagreement, or thinking someone isn't the same, but that's not what the word means. Even after decades of this relentless wokeness, what dictionary defines the word that way?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 15 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,636
Your argument is literally "racism isn’t bad because it’s true." But racism isn’t true though. It’s not accepted science that blacks are inferior to whites. You’re just lying through your teeth right now.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,640
We can’t tolerate intolerance. If I’m a good person I don’t have to love you for being an evil person and it doesn’t make me evil to hate evil.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,642
@1,460,636 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Notice how nothing in this comment refutes the data?
And that's not my argument, that just looks like a tautology.
The idea that races are different, even in intelligence, doesn't follow from the idea that races have different intelligence. It's just a rephrasing of the same proposition.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 10 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,643
@1,460,639 (H)
So what? The United States killed thousands of Japanese civilians in firebombing raids. That’s not a valid argument. Who says that white Americans in WWII are the ultimate moral standard?
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,645
@1,460,640 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
And what does "intolerance" here mean exactly? people having a worldview that doesn't align with woke. Meaning if you don't agree with the ideology you are the enemy.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 53 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,654
I said your argument is that racism isn’t bad because it’s true, and then you said that’s not an argument it’s a tautology. So I said your argument is bad and then you said it’s so bad it’s not even an argument.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 49 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,655
I don’t think that’s what you were trying to say but that’s basically what you said because you weren’t smart enough to form a coherent thought.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,656
@1,460,646 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc) @1,460,648 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
It's an ideology, and one of the characteristics is that the people who hold it believe you have to be hostile to anyone who disagrees. Purity testing, censorship, conforming to the hive mind.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 38 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,659
You’re so hostile to people who disagree with you, you can’t shut the fuck up and leave me alone. You don’t believe in freedom of expression, you want to silence me.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,663
@1,460,654 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
It wasn't my argument.
And when you say it's that I believe "racism isn't bad", by racism that would mean my belief that races are different?
That doesn't follow from the idea that races are different, it's the same idea.
You'll likely try to say "No, by racism I meant" and then give some sort of behavior I've never endorsed, without bothering to think "Can I show an example of this?" first.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 12 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,666
@1,460,663 (H)
That’s a lot of words to say nothing. You still haven’t defined woke because you’re too much of a coward to admit that you’re intolerant. Boo hoo.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 29 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,669
@1,460,667 (H)
You are trying to silence me because you’re doing more than disagreeing with me, you intentionally try to derail everything I say to make it about you so I can’t say what I want to say.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 54 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,671
You said multiple times that you’re a failure who didn’t get into Harvard because you’re white and there’s discrimination against whites. That’s why you’re poor and can’t get a job, because you’re a victim because of your race. You have a victim mentality and you can’t take criticism or you call it a personal attack to deflect. You’re a weak minded toddler who’s always crying that you don’t get your way every time and I’m just sick of it.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 21 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,673
@1,460,670 (H)
So you’re not tolerant then. You’re intolerant towards other races because you think you’re entitled to exclude people based on race alone.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 44 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,675
I remember one time I got in a debate with you where you said you couldn’t get a girlfriend because women are delusional and any woman would cheat on you with a more attractive man.
I never said that, which is why you can't quote it.
What actually happened is that I said admissions and hiring shouldn't factor in race. You called me a racist for that and said they need to, because it's not fair otherwise.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,686
@previous (H)
That has to be the worst argument I’ve ever heard. "I’m a racist but not for that." So you’re upset that I’m calling you a racist because you support segregation but you’re not upset that I’m calling you a racist because you’re a racist for something else too? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,687
@1,460,683 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
There's a difference between "respect" as in you don't trespass on their property, and "respect" as in you think they are intelligent.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,689
@1,460,686 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I'm saying you lied about all the Harvard stuff, and the actual disagreement was about whether race should be a factor in admissions.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 20 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,690
You might have some complicated shit going on about what you think respect means, but I can tell you straight up, I’m keeping it simple: I don’t respect you according to every definition of the word.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 11 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,693
@1,460,689 (H)
I didn’t lie that race was ever a factor in admissions I said I supported it. That’s not lying, I told you the truth about what my opinion is. My opinion isn’t a fact but if I tell you I have an opinion it is a fact that that’s my real opinion so you can’t call that a lie idiot.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 39 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,699
This is my country, I love my country, and if you want to take my country from me, I have a right to stand up for what I believe in and fight for what rightfully belongs to me. You can’t deny me my own country and my own land because I’m black.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 8 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,707
@1,460,705 (H)
Then wherever your "white space" is, it’s not in the United States, so go fuck off to some white shithole and have your little white incest fest where you all fuck your cousins or whatever the hell you want to do that you don’t want black people to see.
> I remember one time I got in a debate with you where you said you couldn’t get a girlfriend because women are delusional and any woman would cheat on you with a more attractive man.
shitter's family replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,719
We'd like to take this time to sing a short poem in honor of our dear shitter:
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Flanders fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
boof (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 29 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,722
@previous (shitter's family)
you know, in time I see this poem differently. it is less about the dead soldiers and more about the how the author feels we should be feeling.
> It’s kinda sad actually. I know most people don’t code and just make wix cookie cutter and/or anthropoic AI slop websites, but it would still be cool if normal people who aren’t software developers trying to get hired were still making their own personal websites.
Based on your age you probably missed the era of lovingly curated personal sites and Web Rings: Independent federations of privately developed sites on any imaginable topic.
But the user based Internet fell to the corporate Internet around the time of Reddit. And alleged media companies bought up a lot of known indies to build their shitty platforms.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 22 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,768
@1,460,761 (L)
I love software, but that’s one of the things about AI I don’t really like. It feels like the way things are going it’s trying to discourage individual creativity and individual effort. In theory it’s not bad if more people can make stuff, but it would be nice if it they were actually making cool stuff instead of redundant Claude generated websites that are just ChatGPT wrappers for some calculator for some random thing that doesn’t have any deterministic algorithm when you could have just asked ChatGPT and gotten a better answer probably.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,769
If it works it works and I get the whole effort and economic incentives, but idk, society would probably be better if everything wasn’t a race to the bottom.
boof (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,460,889
@previous (Lady Dead !Pool..v42s)
ah, I am immediately reminded of the Carl Sagan book The Demon Haunted World. That and Shermer's Why People Believe Weird Things would be good for a reading list for the youth.
> The fact that correlation doesn't equal causation.
Closely related but slightly different thing: reverse implication. Some people don’t know that if A implies B it doesn’t logically follow that B implies A. The common example is if it’s raining the streets are wet. But if the streets are wet, that doesn’t mean it’s raining.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,461,616
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Apparently plate tectonics are really important for the existence of life on Earth because the geological activity associated with it, like volcanism for example helps to prevent heat from building up in the Earth’s core. Venus doesn’t have a moon, so it has a smaller core than Earth. The Earth’s core is really twice as big as it should be because another Mars sized planet collided with Earth, and the debris from that impact formed the moon, but the consequence of that is that the Earth’s core is basically the cores of two planets fused together. Uranium is a heavy element, so when the Earth was liquid most of it sank down to the core, which is mostly iron, which acts as a neutron reflector. Even though Venus has a smaller core than Earth, the heat from the radioactive decay of Uranium 235 in the core of Venus builds up to the point where the entire surface of Venus melts once every billion years, which leads to a runaway greenhouse effect with a carbon dioxide atmosphere 90 times as dense as Earth. But the Earth despite likely having more uranium decaying in its core then Venus never had that problem because the composition of the crust is just right that heat can be released.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,461,618
@1,461,616 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Slight correction: it happened at least once, but they aren’t sure if it happened more than once. Which makes sense because the entire surface of the planet melted so how would they know if it happened more than once?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,461,619
Since the sun was fainter in the past (it increases in luminosity by 10% per billion years), it’s possible Venus could have had oceans like Earth at one point and possibly even life. Mars definitely had water. So early on in the solar system there could have been three habitable planets, it’s just that the Earth got incredibly lucky that as the sun got warmer over time, bacteria converted the carbon dioxide in our atmosphere into oxygen coincidentally balancing out the increasing brightness of the sun, which made it possible for life to exist for billions of years.