Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later[^][v]#1,460,165
Set theory and logic both have 16 boolean connectives. Then if you have a function P(x), you can denote x using set theory, so logic is also the same. One of the three things is fundamental, I’m just asking which one.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,167
You could also throw arithmetic in there since you can express arithmetic using logic (computers exist so that should be obvious). But then you can represent logic using arithmetic if 0 is false and 1 is true, then and is multiplication, and not is 1 - x, so NAND would be 1-ab, and NAND is functionally complete, so you can build up any other logical connective from multiplication and subtraction. So maybe arithmetic is more fundamental than logic and logic is a consequence of arithmetic?
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 55 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,168
You see homeless people are always walking around the area where I live and obviously they want money to buy drugs because they're all on drugs. So he asked me for money and I said no
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,170
The reason I said no is because he looked dirty I mean what am I supposed to say? He was a dirty filthy homeless person like ew? My mom taught me that dirty people don't get into heaven so obviously I wasn't going to help him with money.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,171
@1,460,168 (B)
I just tell them I don’t have any money, feel bad about it, then come back later to find them yelling at God in the middle of the road and then I feel better.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,174
Anyway after I said no this guy just starts flipping out. He starts yelling and taking his clothes off for some reason and obviously everyone starts staring. He started acting like I had a gun and forced him to get naked or I would shoot.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 48 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,178
Obviously everyone believes him because who the fuck just gets naked in public? So they start throwing cans and rocks at me and I have to flee and get away. Ugh I hate society
Anonymous B double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,180
So next time I'm around the same area I see the homeless guy but this time he's in a fancy suit and has a gold watch on can you believe this shit? I ask him how the hell he got the fancy suit and why was he asking me for money if he was rich. You want to know what he tells me?
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 27 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,183
He tells me "don't hate the player hate the game" and then he gets into a really fancy Lamborghini and drives off. Anyway set theory reminded me of that story
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,193
@previous (B)
Dude, I don’t care if your parents were failures who never taught you basic human respect, if you’re an adult, and you have problems, be a man and fix them. Being racist towards me isn’t going to fix your pathetic life. Go fuck off and do something productive. I don’t care about you.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,194
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I was just asking but there goes that typical black aggression. You want to hit me too don't you? Typical black
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,198
@previous (Bob)
Why are they so violent? I just tensed up as soon as he said he was black. I knew he'd blow up eventually. This lemonade guy is dangerous
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,199
@1,460,194 (B)
If your only purpose in life is to provoke people and be a nuisance, then we don’t need you. From the bottom of my heart, I feel more sad when I kill a fly than I’d feel if I found out you dropped dead. That’s how worthless your life is. Grow up and be a man. I don’t know if you’re fucking retarded and you can’t help it, if you have some type of special needs issue or whatever, but nobody wants people like you to exist.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 second later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,201
And why do you have a fantasy of provoking me and then I hit you anyway? Are you too much of a coward to do it yourself so you want me to help you through with it? Is that what this is?
Bob joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,216
@1,460,213 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Do you still believe in God? I hate the fucking world and all the goddamn niggers in it. I dont care if I die anymore. My religion is the white race. HEIL HITLER!
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,460,220
@1,460,165 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You will study set theory but then you don't know basic propositional logic that comes up in daily life, and you have frequently dismissed the utility of logic by saying it's abstract or by saying there's no point in bothering.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,228
@1,460,223 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I'm not contesting that logic is abstract, I'm pointing out that you routinely come up with reasons to dismiss logic.
Here is the post I'm talking about:
> m not sure I agree with that. Logic is an abstraction, logic doesn’t physically exist. If things must obey logic, then if there’s nothing, there’s nothing to disobey logic, so I’m not sure that’s really impossible.
You are trying to jump from "logic is abstract" to "there's nothing to disobey logic".
Logic still applies, even if it's abstract.
And this isn't the only time you've tried to dismiss logic as important.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,229
@previous (F)
I said logic is abstract, I never said it doesn’t apply, I said that set theory is more fundamental with logic. And you’re lying, you did have a problem with the fact I said that logic is abstract, because you didn’t know what the word abstract meant. I’m tired of your low IQ bullshit, you’re a mental retard who doesn’t know anything.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,231
@1,460,228 (F)
For Christ sake, you quoted me directly, and then misrepresented what I said right after. You always do this shit. This is what I said.
> If things must obey logic, then if there’s nothing, there’s nothing to disobey logic, so I’m not sure that’s really impossible.
READ WHAT I FUCKING WROTE. I said that if there is nothing, then there’s nothing to disobey logic. What do you think that means you absolute moron? Can you do logic without any variables? Do you understand what I said or are you really this stupid?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,235
What I basically said, is that logic doesn’t apply to things that don’t exist. Can the magical unicorn in my kitchen walk through walls? It doesn’t exist so maybe it does or maybe it doesn’t, that’s the point. If something doesn’t exist then logic doesn’t apply because it doesn’t exist.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,244
@1,460,241 (F)
Why the hell would you quote me and remove half the sentence intentionally? Do you think that makes you look smart? What the hell is wrong with you?
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 9 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,246
@1,460,239 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Putting it into the full sentence doesn't help you at all.
This isn't the first time you've dismissed logic, and you clearly can't come up with any actual explanation for what "if there's nothing" is supposed to mean. You have a word salad post that is clearly another one of your rants against logic.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,250
@1,460,244 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Because that was the specific phrase I was taking issue with, and adding more context doesn't change anything.
"If there's nothing" isn't a meaningful statement either
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,251
Oh my God, there are two if statements in that sentence. If I said a implies b and c implies d, you can’t just claim that I made the claim that d is true when a and c were both hypotheticals, that’s so stupid.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,256
@1,460,254 (F)
Yes it does, I said if this then that, it was a hypothetical that depends on a premise being true but the premise is that nothing exists, how stupid are you?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 35 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,260
I said if nothing exists then there’s nothing to disobey logic. Open your eyes, does something exist? Is this really so complicated that you can’t understand it?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,460,264
Then imagine if you quoted somebody saying "if I was a woman I’d have two X chromosomes" as "I’d have two X chromosomes" and acting like that’s reasonable. No it’s not idiot.
> I said if nothing exists then there’s nothing to disobey logic. Open your eyes, does something exist? Is this really so complicated that you can’t understand it?
I get it, but it's still stupid. Why do you think saying this adds anything to the conversation?
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,283
@1,460,262 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
If you had a record of gender critical opinions and then said that people would probably take it as an anti-trans statement.
Context matters when inferring meaning, and it looks like you are going out of your way to say something no one actually contests just to try to and get a "gotcha".
Imagine Charlie Kirk is debating and then says "Actually I just said if I was a woman, I didn't say anything about trans people" after making the chromosome example you just gave. Everyone would roll their eyes at that.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 20 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,285
@1,460,266 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You didn't even know what IQ was, you've repeatedly thought it was a test of knowledge or that it had some racial biases yet you've never been able to give an example of either.
You decide your position before even understanding the issue you're taking a position on.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,293
@previous (F)
I told you not to talk about it because you always work it into every conversation and I’m sick of hearing the same crap from you over and over again with no progression.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,315
@previous (F)
That doesn’t mean I’m interested in what you have to say about it. I want to hear from other people, they have more interesting ideas but you’re the most obsessive.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,316
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You want to hear what other people have to say about IQ so much you make multiple topics a day, but I'm obsessed with IQ??
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,460,323
I said you’re obsessive, I didn’t say you’re obsessed with IQ, I meant you’re obsessed with talking with me which is annoying because you’re the person I like the least out of everybody here. Whenever I don’t restate every little detail you can’t follow it even though everybody else can, it’s really annoying. You think you’re smarter than everybody because you notice things that make sense to everybody else don’t make sense to you, but it’s not because you’re smart it’s the other way around. If you were smart that wouldn’t be hard for you.