Topic: Interesting fact
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc started this discussion 3 weeks ago #137,473
The period of peak star formation in the universe is already over, but red dwarfs can live for trillions of years, so we’re still at the very beginning of the era where the universe has stars. But eventually the universe will run out of hydrogen and when red dwarfs die, they won’t be large enough to explode as supernovas and no new starts will form. So the universe will be dark forever, basically. Unless dark energy changes in the future, which, I dunno, maybe.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,456,110
Luckily, our sun is a G type dwarf, meaning it has a lifespan of around 10 billion years, meaning we’re halfway to the end of the life of our sun, even though the most common type of star in the universe is red dwarfs and they’ll live a thousand times longer. So we got really lucky with that. And even better, the sun’s luminosity increases by 10% every billion years which means we’re closer to the end of life on Earth than the beginning because in a billion years the oceans will boil away.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,111
The best part is none of that matters because you only live 100 years, if that. Because you’re the center of the universe and the creator of the universe obviously thought you in particular were special for some reason. Duh.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,112
And the sun might consume the earth when it dies. So in 5 billion years, it will be impossible to know earth ever existed because it will be inside of the sun.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,114
It's okay, we can just live in spaceships
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,115
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,116
All the other planets in our solar system aren’t ideal for us. Mars has 1/3rd Earth’s gravity but it has 1% the atmosphere of Earth, you’d be living under a dome your whole life and it’s probably not economically viable to have a pressure-sealed society. Not to mention the soil is toxic and low gravity has negative health effects on humans since we evolved for billions of years to handle the Earth’s gravity. There are probably other Earth like planets but they’re light years away. We have to invent a way of traveling at least a thousand times faster just to get to the nearest star.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,154
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,157
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@1,456,112 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Because I'm a Christian, and it seems to me that all of this speculation about stars and the sun dying, it seems to me that that's all very irrelevant when Judgement Day is probably going to come way before all of that. God will fulfil his plan to end this reality. What those scientists think they know about the Sun ending in 5 billions years is really just a working assumption they've made because they're ignoring the Bible so they're working from a false premise.
Because I'm a Christian, and it seems to me that all of this speculation about stars and the sun dying, it seems to me that that's all very irrelevant when Judgement Day is probably going to come way before all of that. God will fulfil his plan to end this reality. What those scientists think they know about the Sun ending in 5 billions years is really just a working assumption they've made because they're ignoring the Bible so they're working from a false premise.
Anonymous C triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 41 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,161
See, I'm a Christian, so this is just my opinion, but I can't bring myself to care about these atheist scientists saying the universe will enter heat death or whatever it is in 10 gorillion years, when we have the Bible telling us exactly what God is going to do for Judgment Day. I just smile and nod when I hear these atheists getting into this space stuff.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 27 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,165
@previous (C)
> See, I'm a Christian,
How cum your God could only cum up with Incest as the foundation for Human existence.
I mean like he could make Mega Trillions of different stars, yet only two Humans.
> See, I'm a Christian,
How cum your God could only cum up with Incest as the foundation for Human existence.
I mean like he could make Mega Trillions of different stars, yet only two Humans.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,175
@1,456,161 (C)
I’m not an atheist. Nothing I said is incompatible with Christianity. Christians believe that the universe is designed to show the glory of God. If we have finite lives on a finite planet in an infinite universe, how could that not mean anything to you? Space also objectively exists, you can see it every night, space isn’t a thing you need to be an atheist to believe in.
I’m not an atheist. Nothing I said is incompatible with Christianity. Christians believe that the universe is designed to show the glory of God. If we have finite lives on a finite planet in an infinite universe, how could that not mean anything to you? Space also objectively exists, you can see it every night, space isn’t a thing you need to be an atheist to believe in.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,176
The theory of the big bang was originally proposed by a Catholic priest (it was originally called the primeval atom), but Einstein initially rejected it because Einstein preferred a universe that was static and eternal and to him the big bang sounded too much like a moment of divine creation. So it’s really ironic some Christians want to deny science or reject the big bang.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,177
My stance is, if God is the truth, if you really actually believe in God, you should not fear the truth. If you are afraid of science because you think it will threaten your belief in God, then maybe you aren’t really sure of your God. I don’t reject science and I’m also not an atheist.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,178
Truth is also a spectrum. Binary true and false is an abstraction humans created to simplify things. But the Bible is a long book, not every single thing that happened in the Bible is either true or false. It’s much more likely some things are true and some things are false. I don’t accept everything in the Bible as being literally true, but I also do not reject the Bible as completely false.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,180
@1,456,176 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
@1,456,177 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
lol what the heck is this! You're a Christian? Open your Bible! God himself tells us right there how the universe was created. It wasn't some "Big Bang" where some space dust exploded or whatever the scientists are guessing happened, God did it and he told us how.
@1,456,177 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
lol what the heck is this! You're a Christian? Open your Bible! God himself tells us right there how the universe was created. It wasn't some "Big Bang" where some space dust exploded or whatever the scientists are guessing happened, God did it and he told us how.
Anonymous C double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,181
@1,456,176 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
The Big Bang being thought up by a Catholic priest isn't something to brag about, that's embarrassing for Catholics. One of our own should not be pushing wild theories that try to deny God and the Bible.
The Big Bang being thought up by a Catholic priest isn't something to brag about, that's embarrassing for Catholics. One of our own should not be pushing wild theories that try to deny God and the Bible.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 41 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,182
@1,456,180 (C)
The Bible wasn’t written by God. That doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist or the Bible doesn’t say anything important about God.
The Bible wasn’t written by God. That doesn’t mean God doesn’t exist or the Bible doesn’t say anything important about God.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 38 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,183
@1,456,181 (C)
Is embarrassing that a religious man who believed in God discovered how the universe began? How is that embarrassing?
Is embarrassing that a religious man who believed in God discovered how the universe began? How is that embarrassing?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,185
I definitely think the Bible has meaning, I think that Genesis has meaning, and you can use that meaning to come to various conclusions, but the meaning isn’t literal though.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,186
@1,456,154 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> 1 billion years is enough time to invent a spaceship
It’s also enough time for us to go extinct.
> 1 billion years is enough time to invent a spaceship
It’s also enough time for us to go extinct.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,187
Really when it comes down to it, we exist. There’s something instead of nothing. That has a logical consequence.
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Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 23 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,192
@1,456,182 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Is this guy for real? How can you call yourself a Christian? Where do you think the knowledge of the Bible comes from if not from God! If it was just some random book written by random humans it would not be important, but the reason it is the most important book ever written is because God was divinely inspiring the writers to put His Word into a book. Use your danged head before you post!
@1,456,183 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I literally just told you that. He ignored the Bible to make some science flavored hooey about an explosion in space creating everything. Tell me how is that compatible with the Bible?
@1,456,185 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
"It's not literal" has got to be one of the most dangerous ideas in Christianity ever. If it's not literal and we can just attach whatever meanings we feel like then that's not us acknowledging God's Word, it's just us trying to ignore it.
Is this guy for real? How can you call yourself a Christian? Where do you think the knowledge of the Bible comes from if not from God! If it was just some random book written by random humans it would not be important, but the reason it is the most important book ever written is because God was divinely inspiring the writers to put His Word into a book. Use your danged head before you post!
@1,456,183 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I literally just told you that. He ignored the Bible to make some science flavored hooey about an explosion in space creating everything. Tell me how is that compatible with the Bible?
@1,456,185 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
"It's not literal" has got to be one of the most dangerous ideas in Christianity ever. If it's not literal and we can just attach whatever meanings we feel like then that's not us acknowledging God's Word, it's just us trying to ignore it.
Anonymous C double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,194
All I'm saying is that I will trust my Bible over any of this confusing atheist space stuff! Mr. Bloody Lemonade is one of those Christians who has been seduced by science into closing his Bible to watch documentaries on space or whatever, this happens so much and it's sad.
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@1,456,112 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> And the sun might consume the earth when it dies. So in 5 billion years, it will be impossible to know earth ever existed because it will be inside of the sun.
Earth as we know it dies in 250 million years when a new Pangea forms. Mammals won’t survive. Life goes extinct in 1.45 billion years when plate tectonics cease. A cooled core then will ruin our magnetic field.
> And the sun might consume the earth when it dies. So in 5 billion years, it will be impossible to know earth ever existed because it will be inside of the sun.
Earth as we know it dies in 250 million years when a new Pangea forms. Mammals won’t survive. Life goes extinct in 1.45 billion years when plate tectonics cease. A cooled core then will ruin our magnetic field.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 54 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,209
@1,456,195 (F)
Tbh I really want interstellar travel. Apparently the consensus is that humanity probably won’t figure it out this century, so within my lifetime. But I feel like that would be so awesome to go to a planet around another star. I think aliens probably exist, I don’t know how common they are, if it’s one in a thousand stars or one in a million who knows. But I think we need to leave the solar system.
Tbh I really want interstellar travel. Apparently the consensus is that humanity probably won’t figure it out this century, so within my lifetime. But I feel like that would be so awesome to go to a planet around another star. I think aliens probably exist, I don’t know how common they are, if it’s one in a thousand stars or one in a million who knows. But I think we need to leave the solar system.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,210
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 24 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,211
I was also thinking about it: we can’t travel faster than the speed of light but time slows down exponentially as you approach the speed of light. So if you travel through space yourself, you can travel a light year in less than a year. It only actually matters if you plan on returning to Earth. So it’s actually not physically impossible for us to visit distant stars within a human lifespan.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,212
Like if you were on earth and you watched someone travel at the speed of light to Proxima Centauri at the speed of light (which would take an infinite amount of energy), it would take 4 years for the spacecraft to get there. But if you were on a spacecraft going 100% the speed of light, you would arrive instantaneously because time slows down completely so you wouldn’t experience the passage of time.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,213
That’s actually why photons don’t experience time. The moment they come into existence is the same moment they are absorbed even if they have to travel billions of light years from their perspective.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 56 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,456,214
Of course you’d have to limit the acceleration so that it doesn’t kill you, but even if you assume 1G acceleration, you could actually get to a lot of places.
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@1,456,209 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Tbh I really want interstellar travel. Apparently the consensus is that humanity probably won’t figure it out this century, so within my lifetime. But I feel like that would be so awesome to go to a planet around another star. I think aliens probably exist, I don’t know how common they are, if it’s one in a thousand stars or one in a million who knows. But I think we need to leave the solar system.
@1,456,211 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I was also thinking about it: we can’t travel faster than the speed of light but time slows down exponentially as you approach the speed of light. So if you travel through space yourself, you can travel a light year in less than a year. It only actually matters if you plan on returning to Earth. So it’s actually not physically impossible for us to visit distant stars within a human lifespan.
@1,456,212 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Like if you were on earth and you watched someone travel at the speed of light to Proxima Centauri at the speed of light (which would take an infinite amount of energy), it would take 4 years for the spacecraft to get there. But if you were on a spacecraft going 100% the speed of light, you would arrive instantaneously because time slows down completely so you wouldn’t experience the passage of time.
@1,456,213 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
That’s actually why photons don’t experience time. The moment they come into existence is the same moment they are absorbed even if they have to travel billions of light years from their perspective.
@1,456,214 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Of course you’d have to limit the acceleration so that it doesn’t kill you, but even if you assume 1G acceleration, you could actually get to a lot of places.
Tbh I really want interstellar travel. Apparently the consensus is that humanity probably won’t figure it out this century, so within my lifetime. But I feel like that would be so awesome to go to a planet around another star. I think aliens probably exist, I don’t know how common they are, if it’s one in a thousand stars or one in a million who knows. But I think we need to leave the solar system.
@1,456,211 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I was also thinking about it: we can’t travel faster than the speed of light but time slows down exponentially as you approach the speed of light. So if you travel through space yourself, you can travel a light year in less than a year. It only actually matters if you plan on returning to Earth. So it’s actually not physically impossible for us to visit distant stars within a human lifespan.
@1,456,212 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Like if you were on earth and you watched someone travel at the speed of light to Proxima Centauri at the speed of light (which would take an infinite amount of energy), it would take 4 years for the spacecraft to get there. But if you were on a spacecraft going 100% the speed of light, you would arrive instantaneously because time slows down completely so you wouldn’t experience the passage of time.
@1,456,213 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
That’s actually why photons don’t experience time. The moment they come into existence is the same moment they are absorbed even if they have to travel billions of light years from their perspective.
@1,456,214 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Of course you’d have to limit the acceleration so that it doesn’t kill you, but even if you assume 1G acceleration, you could actually get to a lot of places.