Topic: Celtic culture appreciation thread
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #137,245
Up the ra!Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,454,396
We only have to be lucky once!Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,398
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,404
Ah, the famously Christian Celts.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,405
@previous (B)
It’s ironic, Britain was part of the Roman Empire and the Romans never conquered Ireland, but Ireland is Roman Catholic because the British were Catholic.
It’s ironic, Britain was part of the Roman Empire and the Romans never conquered Ireland, but Ireland is Roman Catholic because the British were Catholic.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,406
Most of Europe used to be Celtic actually before the Romans, but the Romans wiped them out, except for in Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and Normandy.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,407
There’s also an irony in that, the western Roman Empire was originally pagan, but after Constantine enacted the Edict of Milan, the Roman Empire eventually converted to Christianity. But even though Ireland was actually never under Roman control, in medieval Europe, even when literacy was in decline, Ireland preserved the Latin language because of their commitment to Catholicism.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,408
If you think about it, the Catholic Church is sort of the last institution that remains from the western Roman Empire.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,409
It would be hard to prove it, but apparently the story is that in some battle Constantine saw a cross in the sky and thought it was a divine sign from God and decided to convert to and legalize Christianity. So there are some people that theorize that he saw a meteor. Which is interesting because it’s kind of like the butterfly effect. Someone saw a meteor in the sky a couple thousand years ago and now Christianity is one of the largest religions.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,431
@previous (B)
I don’t think legalizing Christianity did strengthen the empire. The Jewish people were an oppressed minority and they wanted a savior because they wanted to be liberated from Roman occupation. Early Christians were pacifists who refused to serve in the Roman army because Christianity inherited monotheism from Judaism and Jews believe that they should never put any gods before their own one true God but the Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
I don’t think legalizing Christianity did strengthen the empire. The Jewish people were an oppressed minority and they wanted a savior because they wanted to be liberated from Roman occupation. Early Christians were pacifists who refused to serve in the Roman army because Christianity inherited monotheism from Judaism and Jews believe that they should never put any gods before their own one true God but the Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,461
@1,454,406 (A)
In Britain's case, it actually wasn't the Romans who displaced the local Celtic culture and language, it was subsequent Germanic settlers who moved in after the Romans lost control of the island. That's why English is a Germanic language and not a Romance language.
Also, my neck of the woods, Cornwall, is a little Celtic holdout too. 🤓
@previous (A)
> Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
Not quite. A living Emperor declaring himself a God was actually very taboo and tended to be associated with short-lived crazy Emperors like Caligula. There WAS an Imperial Cult where dead and deified former Emperors could be worshiped, but that wasn't really mandatory.
The only thing that gets close to mandatory worship of the Emperor is a few scattered cases when people of the Empire were demanded to offer a sacrifice to the gods on the Emperor's behalf, but that only happened a few times and was not a regular thing.
In Britain's case, it actually wasn't the Romans who displaced the local Celtic culture and language, it was subsequent Germanic settlers who moved in after the Romans lost control of the island. That's why English is a Germanic language and not a Romance language.
Also, my neck of the woods, Cornwall, is a little Celtic holdout too. 🤓
@previous (A)
> Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
Not quite. A living Emperor declaring himself a God was actually very taboo and tended to be associated with short-lived crazy Emperors like Caligula. There WAS an Imperial Cult where dead and deified former Emperors could be worshiped, but that wasn't really mandatory.
The only thing that gets close to mandatory worship of the Emperor is a few scattered cases when people of the Empire were demanded to offer a sacrifice to the gods on the Emperor's behalf, but that only happened a few times and was not a regular thing.
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Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,477
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
> Also, my neck of the woods, Cornwall, is a little Celtic holdout too.
Any human sacrifices? The Celts did that.
> Also, my neck of the woods, Cornwall, is a little Celtic holdout too.
Any human sacrifices? The Celts did that.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 3 weeks ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,487
@previous (B)
No, these days we mostly sacrifice our dignity and a portion of our homes in exchange for tourism money.
No, these days we mostly sacrifice our dignity and a portion of our homes in exchange for tourism money.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,488
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
Fair enough, but you can't call yourselves Celt unless you sacrifice humans. Thanks.
Fair enough, but you can't call yourselves Celt unless you sacrifice humans. Thanks.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 3 weeks ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,498
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@previous (B)
In a lot of parts of the world, there’s not much distinction between a group of people who speak a language and an ethnicity.
In a lot of parts of the world, there’s not much distinction between a group of people who speak a language and an ethnicity.
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@1,454,431 (A)
> I don’t think legalizing Christianity did strengthen the empire. The Jewish people were an oppressed minority and they wanted a savior because they wanted to be liberated from Roman occupation. Early Christians were pacifists who refused to serve in the Roman army because Christianity inherited monotheism from Judaism and Jews believe that they should never put any gods before their own one true God but the Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
Worshipping the emperor as a god was opposed by many Romans, at first. It was illogical and an Eastern import.
> I don’t think legalizing Christianity did strengthen the empire. The Jewish people were an oppressed minority and they wanted a savior because they wanted to be liberated from Roman occupation. Early Christians were pacifists who refused to serve in the Roman army because Christianity inherited monotheism from Judaism and Jews believe that they should never put any gods before their own one true God but the Roman state religion was both polytheistic and required the worship of the emperor as a god.
Worshipping the emperor as a god was opposed by many Romans, at first. It was illogical and an Eastern import.
Anonymous E double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,687
@1,454,504 (D)
> In a lot of parts of the world, there’s not much distinction between a group of people who speak a language and an ethnicity.
In the Maghreb and Sahel this is very true. Linguistic affinity trumps Western phenotypes of race.
> In a lot of parts of the world, there’s not much distinction between a group of people who speak a language and an ethnicity.
In the Maghreb and Sahel this is very true. Linguistic affinity trumps Western phenotypes of race.
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Anonymous F double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,689
In all their artwork, the Egyptians would even depict the pharaoh as larger than everybody else.Anonymous F triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,690
Apparently the pharaohs were so wealthy some of them actually had similar lifespans to modern people.
Anonymous F quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,691
Apparently one pharaoh lived into his 90s.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,692
@1,454,689 (F)
Roman art often did this too. I wouldn't read too much into it, I think it's often just a way in ancient art to emphasise someone's importance.
Roman art often did this too. I wouldn't read too much into it, I think it's often just a way in ancient art to emphasise someone's importance.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,695
Tbh I’m not even sure it’s that illogical for them to have been considered gods. Compared to your average farmer, they basically were. I mean they were buried in solid gold coffins inside of 400 foot tall artificial mountains built with 2 million 2 ton stones, 4,000 years ago before the last wooly mammoths went extinct. If you were a peasant working the field or whatever, and there’s a guy building a mountain right in front of you, it might not seem that crazy.
Anonymous F double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,697
I’m just saying, I don’t think they were stupid…Anonymous F triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,699
Like we can sit back here and judge them and be like, "Well it’s stupid to think somebody’s a god, I wouldn’t have thought that if I was an impoverished peasant thousands of years ago."Anonymous F quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,700
Even today there are still people we are like, "Aliens built that." Aliens didn’t build the pyramids, but the point is if even today there are still people who see that and don’t think it’s possible, imagine what people who had never seen a skyscraper in their whole life because they didn’t exist yet were thinking.
Anonymous F quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,454,701
Even now I mean "we" as a society could do that, but you as an individual, you can’t decide to build that. If you think about it, it’s really a symbol of power.
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