Topic: I always like the apocalypse/zombie trope of someone waking up from a coma after the end.
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #137,085
You know, 28 Days Later or Walking Dead and a few others. You lose 1% of muscle mass per day. You’d have a major infection from a catheter. You’d be covered in bed sores and infected from IVs and attachments that haven’t been treated or reset. And a few minutes later these guys are running around and fighting.
In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 48 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,279
It's just one of those movie things that you have to suspend your disbelief for. Sure, medically speaking it probably doesn't make sense, but it's a straightforward plot device that the audience will instantly understand.
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@1,453,279 (C)
> It's just one of those movie things that you have to suspend your disbelief for. Sure, medically speaking it probably doesn't make sense, but it's a straightforward plot device that the audience will instantly understand.
Exactly. I watched first season of Walking Dead with a girlfriend who was a nurse.
> It's just one of those movie things that you have to suspend your disbelief for. Sure, medically speaking it probably doesn't make sense, but it's a straightforward plot device that the audience will instantly understand.
Exactly. I watched first season of Walking Dead with a girlfriend who was a nurse.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,313
It's just day of triffids
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,320
The apocalypse would suck. Malnutrition, rotting and mildewed homes, smelly corpses everywhere, nuclear plant meltdowns. Hard pass!
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 14 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,421
@OP
> You know, 28 Days Later or Walking Dead and a few others. You lose 1% of muscle mass per day. You’d have a major infection from a catheter. You’d be covered in bed sores and infected from IVs and attachments that haven’t been treated or reset. And a few minutes later these guys are running around and fighting.
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> In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
I have heard about Day of the Triffids and should check it out.
> You know, 28 Days Later or Walking Dead and a few others. You lose 1% of muscle mass per day. You’d have a major infection from a catheter. You’d be covered in bed sores and infected from IVs and attachments that haven’t been treated or reset. And a few minutes later these guys are running around and fighting.
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> In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
I have heard about Day of the Triffids and should check it out.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,432
@previous (H)
> > You know, 28 Days Later or Walking Dead and a few others. You lose 1% of muscle mass per day. You’d have a major infection from a catheter. You’d be covered in bed sores and infected from IVs and attachments that haven’t been treated or reset. And a few minutes later these guys are running around and fighting.
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> > In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
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> I have heard about Day of the Triffids and should check it out.
It’s well-written and high tier for the genre. Along with older books like Alas, Babylon; The Long, Loud Silence; Earth Abides; The Genocides and anything else by Thomas Disch.
> > You know, 28 Days Later or Walking Dead and a few others. You lose 1% of muscle mass per day. You’d have a major infection from a catheter. You’d be covered in bed sores and infected from IVs and attachments that haven’t been treated or reset. And a few minutes later these guys are running around and fighting.
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> > In books, it works better and is more situational than a coma. In Day of the Triffids, the main character had his eyes wrapped after an injury or operation and missed the skylights / military satellites that blinded most people. In The Long, Loud Silence the protagonist wakes up after a long bender and the U.S. east of the Mississippi has been blanketed with nuclear and bioweapons.
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> I have heard about Day of the Triffids and should check it out.
It’s well-written and high tier for the genre. Along with older books like Alas, Babylon; The Long, Loud Silence; Earth Abides; The Genocides and anything else by Thomas Disch.
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Amnesia timeAnonymous K joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,594
You lose 1% of muscle pass per day? So after 100 days, you literally have no muscles in your body? You are just a skeleton with skin draped over it?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 26 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,595
@OP
> You lose 1% of muscle mass per day.
You lose 1-2% of your muscle mass PER YEAR, not per day. 😂
https://www.health.harvard.edu/exercise-and-fitness/age-and-muscle-loss-YAQZ7EMP
> You lose 1% of muscle mass per day.
You lose 1-2% of your muscle mass PER YEAR, not per day. 😂
https://www.health.harvard.edu/exercise-and-fitness/age-and-muscle-loss-YAQZ7EMP
Anonymous L double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,596
@1,453,594 (K)
> You lose 1% of muscle pass per day? So after 100 days, you literally have no muscles in your body? You are just a skeleton with skin draped over it?
OP is wrong, but even if he were correct, that's not how it works.
It compounds rather than subtracting 1 percentage point of your original muscle each year. Even using the correct 1% per year muscle mass loss beginning at age 30, if you lived to 130 you wouldn't be at 0%.
Starting at 100% at age 30:
M = 100% × 0.99n
At age 130, (n=100):
100% × 0.99100 ≈ 36.6%
So you'd have about 36.6% of your age-30 muscle mass remaining, having lost about 63.4%.
You'd never actually reach 0% under this model:
You only get progressively closer to zero.
> You lose 1% of muscle pass per day? So after 100 days, you literally have no muscles in your body? You are just a skeleton with skin draped over it?
OP is wrong, but even if he were correct, that's not how it works.
It compounds rather than subtracting 1 percentage point of your original muscle each year. Even using the correct 1% per year muscle mass loss beginning at age 30, if you lived to 130 you wouldn't be at 0%.
Starting at 100% at age 30:
M = 100% × 0.99n
At age 130, (n=100):
100% × 0.99100 ≈ 36.6%
So you'd have about 36.6% of your age-30 muscle mass remaining, having lost about 63.4%.
You'd never actually reach 0% under this model:
- Age 40: 90.4% remaining
- Age 60: 74.0%
- Age 80: 60.5%
- Age 100: 49.5%
- Age 130: 36.6%
- Age 200: 18.1%
- Age 500: 0.87%
You only get progressively closer to zero.
(Edited 1 minute later.)