Topic: What people rarely consider about racist policing:
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago #137,080
The surveillance state relies on it before branching out to the suburbs. Stingray cell tower spoofers, license plate readers, ShotSpotter, and other police surveillance tech usually are used - without a public comment period - in “high crime areas.” By and large people don’t give a shit because they figure cops use it to lower crime, and that cops tracking women with cameras or stalking exes, are anomalies.
Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 31 minutes later[^] [v] #1,453,205
> The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
more like the sole reason police exist.
more like the sole reason police exist.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,223
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,226
@OP
> The surveillance state relies on it before branching out to the suburbs. Stingray cell tower spoofers, license plate readers, ShotSpotter, and other police surveillance tech usually are used - without a public comment period - in “high crime areas.” By and large people don’t give a shit because they figure cops use it to lower crime, and that cops tracking women with cameras or stalking exes, are anomalies.
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> Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
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> The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
One day you will need the police and you're not going to give a flying fuck, what they use to protect you.
> The surveillance state relies on it before branching out to the suburbs. Stingray cell tower spoofers, license plate readers, ShotSpotter, and other police surveillance tech usually are used - without a public comment period - in “high crime areas.” By and large people don’t give a shit because they figure cops use it to lower crime, and that cops tracking women with cameras or stalking exes, are anomalies.
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> Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
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> The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
One day you will need the police and you're not going to give a flying fuck, what they use to protect you.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,230
@previous (D)
Didn’t the Supreme Court rule that the police don’t have a duty to protect people because their job is actually to protect property?
Didn’t the Supreme Court rule that the police don’t have a duty to protect people because their job is actually to protect property?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,231
The police are also legally allowed to lie but in an interrogation you’re not allowed to lie to them.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,232
Because in that situation they’re protected by the first amendment but you’re not.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,234
@1,453,230 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
They are not obligated to protect either. The court order is their to prevent you suing them.
@1,453,231 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You're free to say nothing to them and ask for an attorney.
They are not obligated to protect either. The court order is their to prevent you suing them.
@1,453,231 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
You're free to say nothing to them and ask for an attorney.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,238
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 49 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,239
Just because you have the right to say nothing at all doesn’t inherently make it fair, it’s obviously a stupid system to give the police more rights than citizens and there are countries that don’t do it that way.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,240
Germany’s take on self liberation is also interesting. They have an idea that the desire to escape is a natural human instinct, therefore it’s not punishable.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 49 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,241
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 23 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,242
…and they have free university.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,243
…and more than two political parties.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,244
There’s actually a thing where democracies that are based on a winner take all system tend to turn into two party systems but countries that have a collation based system generally maintain multiple political parties. So it’s actually a flaw in the design of the country itself, not people being polarized, the system naturally creates polarizations.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,247
@1,453,226 (D)
> > The surveillance state relies on it before branching out to the suburbs. Stingray cell tower spoofers, license plate readers, ShotSpotter, and other police surveillance tech usually are used - without a public comment period - in “high crime areas.” By and large people don’t give a shit because they figure cops use it to lower crime, and that cops tracking women with cameras or stalking exes, are anomalies.
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> > Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
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> > The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
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> One day you will need the police and you're not going to give a flying fuck, what they use to protect you.
I have had numerous interactions with the police. They come and write a report if you’re lucky. Nothing happens. I have faced two near robberies. Car broken into twice. Attempted theft of another vehicle. Neighbor who stalked my ex-wife. I had to handle every situation. There’s no prevention or protection.
> > The surveillance state relies on it before branching out to the suburbs. Stingray cell tower spoofers, license plate readers, ShotSpotter, and other police surveillance tech usually are used - without a public comment period - in “high crime areas.” By and large people don’t give a shit because they figure cops use it to lower crime, and that cops tracking women with cameras or stalking exes, are anomalies.
> >
> > Of course the surveillance net then spreads to everyone else, usually so you can get a ticket for some ridiculous infraction. From a machine that may or may not have been calibrated correctly.
> >
> > The “hood” and “barrio” are just the testing grounds.
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> One day you will need the police and you're not going to give a flying fuck, what they use to protect you.
I have had numerous interactions with the police. They come and write a report if you’re lucky. Nothing happens. I have faced two near robberies. Car broken into twice. Attempted theft of another vehicle. Neighbor who stalked my ex-wife. I had to handle every situation. There’s no prevention or protection.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,249
@previous (F)
Although, their surveillance tech is pretty cool. They can track our license plates now. There are some toll roads you can drive on and you just get an email with a bill, they don’t even stop you, they just scan your license plate.
https://isp.illinois.gov/Media/PressReleaseFile/736
It’s a little confusing when you’re on a toll road and nobody stops you and then you find an email with a bill later.
Although, their surveillance tech is pretty cool. They can track our license plates now. There are some toll roads you can drive on and you just get an email with a bill, they don’t even stop you, they just scan your license plate.
https://isp.illinois.gov/Media/PressReleaseFile/736
It’s a little confusing when you’re on a toll road and nobody stops you and then you find an email with a bill later.
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Anonymous F replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,250
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> Although, their surveillance tech is pretty cool. They can track our license plates now. There are some toll roads you can drive on and you just get an email with a bill, they don’t even stop you, they just scan your license plate.
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> https://agency.illinoistollway.com/paybyplate
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> It’s a little confusing when you’re on a toll road and nobody stops you and then you find an email with a bill later.
You can easily RF and geomap just about anyone then slice through the databases with any number of discovery tools.
> Although, their surveillance tech is pretty cool. They can track our license plates now. There are some toll roads you can drive on and you just get an email with a bill, they don’t even stop you, they just scan your license plate.
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> https://agency.illinoistollway.com/paybyplate
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> It’s a little confusing when you’re on a toll road and nobody stops you and then you find an email with a bill later.
You can easily RF and geomap just about anyone then slice through the databases with any number of discovery tools.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,253
I also remember when they only took biometric data for international flights but they changed it for domestic flights as well. I wonder if they’ll come out with facial revocation surveillance cameras at some point.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,254
I think there’s also a lot of potential for drones. With computer vision you could track everybody’s movement in a city. That could be pretty useful.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,255
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> I think there’s also a lot of potential for drones. With computer vision you could track everybody’s movement in a city. That could be pretty useful.
For what? What is the return on investment or enhanced safety from living in a totalist panopticon?
> I think there’s also a lot of potential for drones. With computer vision you could track everybody’s movement in a city. That could be pretty useful.
For what? What is the return on investment or enhanced safety from living in a totalist panopticon?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,256
@previous (G)
Well, it would be pretty useful for the people who have the means to implement it, so that’s all you really need to know if you’re wondering if it will be implemented or not.
Well, it would be pretty useful for the people who have the means to implement it, so that’s all you really need to know if you’re wondering if it will be implemented or not.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,257
Hypothetically, if you wanted to make a lot of money…
Anonymous B replied with this 3 weeks ago, 17 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,258
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 21 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,260
@1,453,231 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> The police are also legally allowed to lie but in an interrogation you’re not allowed to lie to them.
Yes because lying to them is obstructing justice, but when they lie to you it's to work information out of you.
> The police are also legally allowed to lie but in an interrogation you’re not allowed to lie to them.
Yes because lying to them is obstructing justice, but when they lie to you it's to work information out of you.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,264
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,265
Innocent people have ended up on death row over stupid things like that.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 52 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,267
Let’s see the ROI on trading our freedom for safety. I’m sure one could correlate mass surveillance to faster arrest times and crime prevention.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 11 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,268
@1,453,264 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> You mean get a confession regardless of whether you actually did the crime or not.
Then you're an idiot.
If you say you did a crime when you didn't, what the fuck do you expect?
> You mean get a confession regardless of whether you actually did the crime or not.
Then you're an idiot.
If you say you did a crime when you didn't, what the fuck do you expect?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 59 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,269
It’s also dumb because since that’s the way the system works, everyone knows if the police ask you questions, you should never answer because it’s not in your best interest and everybody knows they can lie to you.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 45 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,270
@1,453,267 (J)
Freedom ≠ Privacy
We've always lived in a world where you can be seen in public, and people can gossip.
Networked cams make that faster, and if you are being respectful of other people and their property this won't be an issue.
Freedom ≠ Privacy
We've always lived in a world where you can be seen in public, and people can gossip.
Networked cams make that faster, and if you are being respectful of other people and their property this won't be an issue.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 25 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,271
@1,453,268 (H)
Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime. The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime. The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,272
Anonymous I triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,274
You can be seen when you’re not in public and that doesn’t necessarily require a warrant.
Anonymous I quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,275
Text messages, emails, phone calls, that sort of thing.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,284
@1,453,271 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime.
Right, but what the fuck do you expect?
You confessed to a crime that is still open, of course that will get you in prison.
> The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
Don't lie and confess to something you didn't do. This isn't rocket science.
They can say whatever they want, but if you know you didn't do it, take it to trial. They won't have proof if you genuinely didn't do it, so you should be confident.
Generally when police lie they are saying things that would only concern someone who really did the crime. If they say "Someone got a video of you shooting him" that's only scary if you actually shot him and think there really is a witness.
> Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime.
Right, but what the fuck do you expect?
You confessed to a crime that is still open, of course that will get you in prison.
> The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
Don't lie and confess to something you didn't do. This isn't rocket science.
They can say whatever they want, but if you know you didn't do it, take it to trial. They won't have proof if you genuinely didn't do it, so you should be confident.
Generally when police lie they are saying things that would only concern someone who really did the crime. If they say "Someone got a video of you shooting him" that's only scary if you actually shot him and think there really is a witness.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,285
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,287
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Their job is to catch criminals, if lying helps them do that, great.
An innocent person doesn't need to worry about whether the cop is lying, because that person knows there is no proof they did the crime.
If they pull me in and say "someone can prove you did it" I'd laugh and say bring them into court (if my lawyer thought this was OK to say).
Their job is to catch criminals, if lying helps them do that, great.
An innocent person doesn't need to worry about whether the cop is lying, because that person knows there is no proof they did the crime.
If they pull me in and say "someone can prove you did it" I'd laugh and say bring them into court (if my lawyer thought this was OK to say).
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,289
@previous (H)
You have to be one of the most dim-witted people I’ve ever talked to.
You have to be one of the most dim-witted people I’ve ever talked to.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,290
Honestly, I have a problem with people like you who think that rules that obviously don’t advantage you are fair. Just because there are rules doesn’t mean those rules are just or reasonable. They weren’t created to serve your interests, and I think that should be obvious to you. If lying is good, then how come you can’t lie? If lying can be good then you should be allowed to lie in an interrogation as well.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,291
You also totally ignored the PRISM question.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,292
Anonymous K replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,293
Why do you think there’s a 500 foot tall windowless skyscraper built to withstand a nuclear blast in New York City that’s owned by AT&T? Because all the metadata on telecommunications between North America and Europe is something they don’t track because they only track you in public? Is that what you think?Anonymous K double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,294
I’m not saying they do track us, they definitely do not track us. They built a 500 foot tall windowless skyscraper because it looks cool. Duh!
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Anonymous K triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,295
And obviously you have nothing to worry about if you’re not a criminal. That’s why they don’t need a warrant and they have secret courts where they can try you without a jury.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 49 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,301
@1,453,289 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Once again, as you are unable to come up with any actual reasons for your position you resort to ad hominems.
inb4 "i call u stupid because ur stupid" cliche, as if that explains why you can't defend your position.
If your ideas were sound, you wouldn't avoid simple questions and crash out every single discussion.
Once again, as you are unable to come up with any actual reasons for your position you resort to ad hominems.
inb4 "i call u stupid because ur stupid" cliche, as if that explains why you can't defend your position.
If your ideas were sound, you wouldn't avoid simple questions and crash out every single discussion.
Anonymous H double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,302
@1,453,290 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
That's a non sequitor.
I said lying could be useful to catch criminals. It doesn't follow that its fair for the suspect to lie as well, obviously, since that doesn't serve that same purpose.
Since it doesn't, what reason would there be to allow suspects to lie? What good would that do?
And before you say they should have the same privileges", the entire point of the licensed police is that they have special authority to get the job done.
That's a non sequitor.
I said lying could be useful to catch criminals. It doesn't follow that its fair for the suspect to lie as well, obviously, since that doesn't serve that same purpose.
Since it doesn't, what reason would there be to allow suspects to lie? What good would that do?
And before you say they should have the same privileges", the entire point of the licensed police is that they have special authority to get the job done.
Anonymous H triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,303
@1,453,291 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
> You also totally ignored the PRISM question.
If you can't follow basic rules in a discussion like "back up your position" or "don't use ad hominems" then you don't really have any ground to make demands.
> You also totally ignored the PRISM question.
If you can't follow basic rules in a discussion like "back up your position" or "don't use ad hominems" then you don't really have any ground to make demands.
Anonymous H quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,304
@1,453,293 (K)
I never said they don't track us, you made up that up because you can't respond to what I'm actually writing.
I never said they don't track us, you made up that up because you can't respond to what I'm actually writing.
Anonymous H quintuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 20 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,305
Anonymous C replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,316
Idk if the police stops me for whatever reason knowing full well they have nothing on me. I don’t have to answer to them especially if I’m not under suspicion or being detained. If the gov wants to spy on me that’s fine as long as they understand that I can spy on them as well. I can hold them to the same standard that im expected of me as a civilian.
Like you wanna record me where I’m going via flock cameras? Sure no problem but when I demand copies of the footages I expect zero pushback or bureaucratic bullshit. Especially if they’re not being for any going investigation.
The government can only fuck you if you let it. They seem to forget that when they don’t want to follow the rules and laws like civilians we can either remove them via ballots or by guns.
Like you wanna record me where I’m going via flock cameras? Sure no problem but when I demand copies of the footages I expect zero pushback or bureaucratic bullshit. Especially if they’re not being for any going investigation.
The government can only fuck you if you let it. They seem to forget that when they don’t want to follow the rules and laws like civilians we can either remove them via ballots or by guns.
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Anonymous C double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,318
I always found it so bizarre that for a country filled with people who pride themselves in being all about freedom, you know having some kind of “renegade spirit”somehow end up becoming hardcore bootlickers.
Like I personally don’t care for the J6 rioters but I respect them for chimping out and risking it all to take back their government even by force just because they didn’t want a democrat for a president.
Like I personally don’t care for the J6 rioters but I respect them for chimping out and risking it all to take back their government even by force just because they didn’t want a democrat for a president.
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Sagittarius Asshole joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,333
@1,453,303 (H)
> > You also totally ignored the PRISM question.
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> If you can't follow basic rules in a discussion like "back up your position" or "don't use ad hominems" then you don't really have any ground to make demands.
He’s right you didn’t answer the question though.
> > You also totally ignored the PRISM question.
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> If you can't follow basic rules in a discussion like "back up your position" or "don't use ad hominems" then you don't really have any ground to make demands.
He’s right you didn’t answer the question though.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 17 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,338
@1,453,284 (H)
> > Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime.
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> Right, but what the fuck do you expect?
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> You confessed to a crime that is still open, of course that will get you in prison.
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> > The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
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> Don't lie and confess to something you didn't do. This isn't rocket science.
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> They can say whatever they want, but if you know you didn't do it, take it to trial. They won't have proof if you genuinely didn't do it, so you should be confident.
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> Generally when police lie they are saying things that would only concern someone who really did the crime. If they say "Someone got a video of you shooting him" that's only scary if you actually shot him and think there really is a witness.
You aren’t obligated to answer a cop who asks you “where are you coming from” during a traffic stop. You have a 5th Amendment right to decline to answer. They want to see if you’re coming from a bar or a party to jam you up. Same with their nonsense about not being able to help you if you don’t talk.
The “if you’re not doing something wrong, who cares” argument is ridiculous. Notice how the authorities can arbitrarily do what they want or try to blame some random guy for vandalizing the reflecting pool to deter focus on bad work by a no-bid contractor and friend of the elites.
You are not safe and your rights aren’t assured.
> > Well if someone says they committed a crime that doesn’t actually mean they did commit the crime.
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> Right, but what the fuck do you expect?
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> You confessed to a crime that is still open, of course that will get you in prison.
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> > The police can lie to get you to say things that aren’t true. If they manipulate someone into lying that they did something they didn’t do because they think something bad will happen if they don’t lie because the police lied to them, that’s not justice, that’s just a bullshit system.
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> Don't lie and confess to something you didn't do. This isn't rocket science.
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> They can say whatever they want, but if you know you didn't do it, take it to trial. They won't have proof if you genuinely didn't do it, so you should be confident.
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> Generally when police lie they are saying things that would only concern someone who really did the crime. If they say "Someone got a video of you shooting him" that's only scary if you actually shot him and think there really is a witness.
You aren’t obligated to answer a cop who asks you “where are you coming from” during a traffic stop. You have a 5th Amendment right to decline to answer. They want to see if you’re coming from a bar or a party to jam you up. Same with their nonsense about not being able to help you if you don’t talk.
The “if you’re not doing something wrong, who cares” argument is ridiculous. Notice how the authorities can arbitrarily do what they want or try to blame some random guy for vandalizing the reflecting pool to deter focus on bad work by a no-bid contractor and friend of the elites.
You are not safe and your rights aren’t assured.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,349
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He’s the same guy that always tries to argue with me that blacks have low IQs even though he makes the most idiotic comparisons showing he knows nothing about biology, like asserting that humans must be different because birds are different and dogs are different, even though birds are actually different species and are theropod dinosaurs that diverged from non avian dinosaurs over 100 million years ago when Homo sapiens are only 300,00 years old and one species. I can tell who he is because he always uses his strawman buzzword. He’s some weirdo stubborn authoritarian idiot who believes in Nazi ideology and claims he got a degree in race science from Oxford when that’s not even a real degree and he’s anti college. He’s a real nutcase. He also thinks chatGPT is conscious and rejects that everything isn’t black and white even though binary logic is just an abstraction that’s useful but can be derived from the same set theory that underlies probability and functional completeness applies to the negation of and in probability so you can prove Boolean logic is just a subset of fuzzy logic where all the probabilities are 0 or 1. I could go on and on about how much I don’t like this guy, but I’ll stop here before I start ranting on his idiotic ideas about history, civilization, and politics. This guy is like the antimatter version of me or something I swear…
He’s the same guy that always tries to argue with me that blacks have low IQs even though he makes the most idiotic comparisons showing he knows nothing about biology, like asserting that humans must be different because birds are different and dogs are different, even though birds are actually different species and are theropod dinosaurs that diverged from non avian dinosaurs over 100 million years ago when Homo sapiens are only 300,00 years old and one species. I can tell who he is because he always uses his strawman buzzword. He’s some weirdo stubborn authoritarian idiot who believes in Nazi ideology and claims he got a degree in race science from Oxford when that’s not even a real degree and he’s anti college. He’s a real nutcase. He also thinks chatGPT is conscious and rejects that everything isn’t black and white even though binary logic is just an abstraction that’s useful but can be derived from the same set theory that underlies probability and functional completeness applies to the negation of and in probability so you can prove Boolean logic is just a subset of fuzzy logic where all the probabilities are 0 or 1. I could go on and on about how much I don’t like this guy, but I’ll stop here before I start ranting on his idiotic ideas about history, civilization, and politics. This guy is like the antimatter version of me or something I swear…
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 8 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,350
But you know what? I’m not done complaining. I lied. I’m going I complain some more.
He said Chinese civilization is inferior to western civilization even thought China invented guns which Europe used to colonize Africa because of China was so great, they would have colonized and enslaved Africans. Which is a fucking evil take.
He also said while yapping about how he thinks blacks are stupid and whites have high IQs that you shouldn’t hire black people because if people were computers you would never use millions of slower computers instead of one fast computer. But like, I’m a computer science student, that’s not how computers work. GPU cores are slower than CPU cores, for a lot of problems, that actually is faster to use lots of slow cores instead of a smaller number of really fast cores. That’s how basically… all 3D graphics, video games, UI, is rendered it’s like. I just really don’t like this guy.
He said Chinese civilization is inferior to western civilization even thought China invented guns which Europe used to colonize Africa because of China was so great, they would have colonized and enslaved Africans. Which is a fucking evil take.
He also said while yapping about how he thinks blacks are stupid and whites have high IQs that you shouldn’t hire black people because if people were computers you would never use millions of slower computers instead of one fast computer. But like, I’m a computer science student, that’s not how computers work. GPU cores are slower than CPU cores, for a lot of problems, that actually is faster to use lots of slow cores instead of a smaller number of really fast cores. That’s how basically… all 3D graphics, video games, UI, is rendered it’s like. I just really don’t like this guy.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,351
Then he has the audacity to yap about how AI is smarter than humans and AI is conscious and he thinks the superior AI will need him even though he thinks he’s dumber than AI and talks shit about black people all the time because he thinks he’s superior to black people. There’s no logic in it at all, it’s just a narcissistic monkey bashing rocks together.
…all that is crazy, when AI relies on GPUs.
…all that is crazy, when AI relies on GPUs.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,352
Or even just computers in general, his idea that everything has to be black and white is because he thinks conservatism will win out because he thinks everything is deterministic and rejects quantum physics because of it. So everything to him has to be absolutely true or absolutely false. But the thing is right, computers can only approximate continuous values. And the thing about computers is, they use electricity, and voltages are continuous. Binary is just an abstraction and computers use binary because it requires less wiring. It’s not fundamental to reality in some magic way.(Because binary is actually just an abstraction, the universe isn’t based on binaries.)
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,353
I mean, a particle can be in a superposition meaning it’s in two states at the same time, or if you’re dealing with photons, two photons can be in the same state occupying the same location in space at the same time, and an electron doesn’t have a position, it has a probability of being in a place at any one particular time…
I should stop ranting.
I should stop ranting.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc sextuple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,354
Like you don’t even need to make a computer with electrons and binary. You could make a photonic quantum computer that uses 4 states instead of 2 and utilize the fact that photons can be in the same place at the same time to transmit data with less wiring the way they do in fiber optics. It’s completely arbitrary that we just happened to figure out this way of doing things first.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,359
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That's an entirely different thing.
@1,453,353 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
No, you don't understand physics.
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Quantum computers do not work the way you think they do.
That's an entirely different thing.
@1,453,353 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
No, you don't understand physics.
@previous (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
Quantum computers do not work the way you think they do.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,388
Which type of quantum computer doesn’t work the way I think it does? Semiconducting quantum computers, photonic quantum computers, neutral atom quantum computers, or superconducting quantum computers?
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,389
I’m also pretty sure that it’s possible for two photons to be in the same place at the same time. Mainly because in everyday life you can experience beams of light not being blocked by other beams of light.I’m also pretty sure that it is possible to transmit more data through a fiber optic cable than it is through an electric wire because multiple wavelengths of light can be used to transmit data at the same time and it’s possible to observe this yourself because that’s what colors are.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 13 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,453,391
Tbh the worst thing you could say is I confused the number of spin states photons have with the number of spins states other particles have. But there are particles that do have 4 spin states.