Topic: A Sister's Eulogy for Steve Jobs, and his final words
cuntbot !nIGga.SL0w started this discussion 15 years ago #13,688
Steve Jobs and his sister Mona Simpson have an interesting history, he had been adopted, she hadn't, and they didn't meet till she was 25. She later became an extremely successful writer in her own right. http://minichan.org/link/DGZEO8EV
Simpson wrote a touching eulogy in the New York Times today and describes how they came to meet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Simpson wrote a touching eulogy in the New York Times today and describes how they came to meet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/opinion/mona-simpsons-eulogy-for-steve-jobs.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
When one day a lawyer called me — me, the middle-class girl from California who hassled the boss to buy us health insurance — and said his client was rich and famous and was my long-lost brother, the young editors went wild. This was 1985 and we worked at a cutting-edge literary magazine, but I’d fallen into the plot of a Dickens novel and really, we all loved those best. The lawyer refused to tell me my brother’s name and my colleagues started a betting pool. The leading candidate: John Travolta. I secretly hoped for a literary descendant of Henry James — someone more talented than I, someone brilliant without even trying.
When I met Steve, he was a guy my age in jeans, Arab- or Jewish-looking and handsomer than Omar Sharif.
We took a long walk — something, it happened, that we both liked to do. I don’t remember much of what we said that first day, only that he felt like someone I’d pick to be a friend. He explained that he worked in computers.
I didn’t know much about computers. I still worked on a manual Olivetti typewriter.
I told Steve I’d recently considered my first purchase of a computer: something called the Cromemco.
Steve told me it was a good thing I’d waited. He said he was making something that was going to be insanely beautiful.
His death and final words are described on page three.When I met Steve, he was a guy my age in jeans, Arab- or Jewish-looking and handsomer than Omar Sharif.
We took a long walk — something, it happened, that we both liked to do. I don’t remember much of what we said that first day, only that he felt like someone I’d pick to be a friend. He explained that he worked in computers.
I didn’t know much about computers. I still worked on a manual Olivetti typewriter.
I told Steve I’d recently considered my first purchase of a computer: something called the Cromemco.
Steve told me it was a good thing I’d waited. He said he was making something that was going to be insanely beautiful.
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #244,763
> he was making something that was going to be insanely beautiful.
i see he failed
i see he failed
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,766
ValtaK !0VegJ9Jl.Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,768
Oh, wow!
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,771
@244,766 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)well for one, i caused you significant anal pains, need i continue?
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,772
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,775
This was a great read.
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cuntbot !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,783
Their relationship is so interesting. Simpson wrote a novel in 1997 about a Silicon Valley tycoon with an out-of-wedlock daughter he treats badly... very similar to Jobs' story with his first daughter Lisa Brennan-Jobs. Simpson and Jobs were close when this was written and you have to wonder how it went over.
http://www.amazon.com/Regular-Guy-Novel-Mona-Simpson/dp/0679772715
She was also married to a TV writer/producer who named Homer's mother after her on the Simpsons, but I think the show already had its name.
http://www.amazon.com/Regular-Guy-Novel-Mona-Simpson/dp/0679772715
She was also married to a TV writer/producer who named Homer's mother after her on the Simpsons, but I think the show already had its name.
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sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,784
@244,766 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
He didn't make the clame he was going to be making something beautiful, and unless jobs meant decades later, he was wrong.
You dont need to do shit to be able to criticize something. I think that Obama is doing a terrible job of running the country. Should I be quiet just because I haven't done shit?
Jobs was a great businessman. This cult following he achieved is bizarre, though. I've always felt this way. It's refreshing to see people criticize the man over the product.
He didn't make the clame he was going to be making something beautiful, and unless jobs meant decades later, he was wrong.
You dont need to do shit to be able to criticize something. I think that Obama is doing a terrible job of running the country. Should I be quiet just because I haven't done shit?
Jobs was a great businessman. This cult following he achieved is bizarre, though. I've always felt this way. It's refreshing to see people criticize the man over the product.
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buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,785
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,786
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
One can assume he meant whatever was in development then.
Also, I edited the fuck out of that post.
One can assume he meant whatever was in development then.
Also, I edited the fuck out of that post.
cuntbot !nIGga.SL0w (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,788
@244,775 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
I'm glad, I thought so too! I find the relationship really interesting but it doesn't seem to be written about that much.
I'm glad, I thought so too! I find the relationship really interesting but it doesn't seem to be written about that much.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,789
@244,782 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
yep, the fact i gave it away freely couldntve hurt either.
derp
yep, the fact i gave it away freely couldntve hurt either.
derp
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buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,793
@244,784 (sluggy)
That wasn't legitimet criticism. It ws snarky to be snarky. This is what he was working on in 1985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
Quote: I mpact on the computer industry
Despite NeXT's limited commercial success, the company had a wide-ranging impact on the computer industry. Object-oriented programming and graphical user interfaces became more common after the 1988 release of the NeXTcube and NeXTSTEP, when other companies started to emulate NeXT's object-oriented system.[59] Apple started the Taligent project in 1989, with the goal of building a NeXT-like operating system for the Macintosh, with collaboration from both HP and IBM. Microsoft announced the Cairo project in 1991; the Cairo specification included similar object-oriented user interface features for a coming consumer version of Windows NT. Although the project was ultimately abandoned, some elements were integrated into other projects. By 1994, Microsoft and NeXT were collaborating on a Windows NT-port of OpenStep; the port, however, was never released.[61]
WebObjects failed to achieve wide popularity partly because of the initial high price of $50,000,[62] but it remains the first and most prominent early example of a web application server which enabled dynamic page generation based on user interactions as opposed to static content. WebObjects is now bundled with Mac OS X Server and Xcode.
Is that not beautiful?
That wasn't legitimet criticism. It ws snarky to be snarky. This is what he was working on in 1985
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
Quote: I mpact on the computer industry
Despite NeXT's limited commercial success, the company had a wide-ranging impact on the computer industry. Object-oriented programming and graphical user interfaces became more common after the 1988 release of the NeXTcube and NeXTSTEP, when other companies started to emulate NeXT's object-oriented system.[59] Apple started the Taligent project in 1989, with the goal of building a NeXT-like operating system for the Macintosh, with collaboration from both HP and IBM. Microsoft announced the Cairo project in 1991; the Cairo specification included similar object-oriented user interface features for a coming consumer version of Windows NT. Although the project was ultimately abandoned, some elements were integrated into other projects. By 1994, Microsoft and NeXT were collaborating on a Windows NT-port of OpenStep; the port, however, was never released.[61]
WebObjects failed to achieve wide popularity partly because of the initial high price of $50,000,[62] but it remains the first and most prominent early example of a web application server which enabled dynamic page generation based on user interactions as opposed to static content. WebObjects is now bundled with Mac OS X Server and Xcode.
Is that not beautiful?
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buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,796
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,800
Cool stories all around, courtesy of brocorp(Edited 10 seconds later.)
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,803
@244,793 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
I think of MacAir and my iPhone as beautiful. MacBooks are beautiful.
People shouldn't be remembered from just the good they did. He was a shitty person. He had the ability to praise god from his platform, and he failed to. It's why he was given aids.
I think of MacAir and my iPhone as beautiful. MacBooks are beautiful.
People shouldn't be remembered from just the good they did. He was a shitty person. He had the ability to praise god from his platform, and he failed to. It's why he was given aids.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,806
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,810
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
No, te product just exists. Jobs declared it beautiful. The criticism is that he is a liar, a fraud, or a bad judge of beauty.
No, te product just exists. Jobs declared it beautiful. The criticism is that he is a liar, a fraud, or a bad judge of beauty.
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buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #244,811
@previous (sluggy)
I find technological progress to be beautiful and exciting. Maybe other's disagree.
I find technological progress to be beautiful and exciting. Maybe other's disagree.
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #244,829
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
I do as well, but I tend to credit the creators not the slave driver.
That bill gates was a true innovator!
I do as well, but I tend to credit the creators not the slave driver.
That bill gates was a true innovator!
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #244,839
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #244,840
@previous (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
He's great. Very interesting guy. A little strange, but that's ok.
He's great. Very interesting guy. A little strange, but that's ok.
buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #244,844
@previous (sluggy)
I like strange, and segways. I also have an unhealthy attraction to fat bearded guys.
I like strange, and segways. I also have an unhealthy attraction to fat bearded guys.
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #244,846
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #244,922
@244,811 (buspuppie !!hkv8K5ZEY)
This! And also agree with jump re: the beauty of apple products. They are works of art. I love life!
This! And also agree with jump re: the beauty of apple products. They are works of art. I love life!